This was forwarded by Linda Lewis to the State-L list... The discussion yesterday evening was to remedy the problem of the unlinked counties. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Russell Lewis <cityslic@ix.netcom.com> To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 12:23 PM Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Reply forwarded >Since Holly is not on this list: > >Holly Timm wrote: >> >> At 11:17 AM 6/12/99 -0400, jpowelljr wrote: >> >My thoughts... Some of you will get this way more than >> >once. I hope you will accept my apology for that... I am >> >listening for your comments. >> >> and a thought from me.... I have been with USGenWeb since virtually the >> beginning and frankly, form the attitude of a few vocal people, IF RootsWeb >> had linked to each and every USGenWeb County whereever it was, we would >> quickly hear these same people screaming that RW was stealing USGenWeb. >> Frankly, I do not think that RootsWeb has done anything wrong by improving >> the navigation of RootsWeb for visitors to Rootsweb. The USGenWeb sites are >> not the be all and end all of what RootsWeb does and provides. I recently >> gave a talk to a local group on Resources at RootsWeb (it was titled >> Ramblin' 'Round RootsWeb) without visiting any USGenWeb sites because USGW >> had been covered previously and did not have enough time in my allotted 90 >> minutes to adequately show everything RootsWeb has that is NOT USGenWeb. >> >> RootsWeb has been extremely supportive and patient with USGenWeb in spite >> of the frequent attacks and innuendo against it. Here, any USGenWeb CC has >> free web space, free mail lists, free query boards and other wonderful >> tools. In return, RootsWeb does not even require us to have a Rootsweb logo >> on our pages. Over and over I hear people talking as if RootsWeb is getting >> rich off of USGenWeb, have any of you priced serious server hardware >> lately??? or the cost of bandwidth in and out??? or wages for the staff w ho >> labor to bring us newer and better tools???? >> >> Brian and all of the staff are committed to free genealogy online and >> always have been. Pressed financially, they seek alternate ways of >> continuing to maintain and expand RootsWeb without having to charge for >> access to data. I am both ashamed and horrified by the current discussion >> in one state about seriously banning having any of that states county sites >> at RootsWeb. Rootsweb is damned for openly incorporating Rootsweb but in >> almost the same breath, others are excused for secretly incorporating >> USGenWeb itself. Something smells to me. >> >> Holly Timm >> >> >At first, I was VERY upset. Why? I'm not really sure. I >> >try very hard to look at both sides of everything. Those >> >pages aren't all bad, but the spin from them definitely >> >isn't very positive. I guess my reaction was mainly at the >> >lack of respect that Rootsweb seems to have shown all of us >> >by not asking our opinions and just springing this on us. >> >It looks like they are pushing us around instead of playing >> >on the team. (Their decision, we all have to live with it >> >now) Is Rootsweb willing to be part of the team? I am not >> >trying to tell Brian or Rootsweb how to run their business, >> >but it is my belief that they should add prominent links to >> >all State pages and at least link to county projects off of >> >Rootsweb. Why? Because they would really like to be a team >> >player. Because they haven't figured goodwill into the >> >amount of hits that receive. Because they really do care >> >about the Project. >> >I'm still trying to sort it all out as I'm sure most of you >> >are, everyone has some merit to their positions on this >> >one. I include in this statement, Brian and Rootsweb, the >> >Advisory Board Members, Teresa and the DBS, every XXGenWeb >> >and Special Project Volunteer. Wear the other guy's shoes >> >for a moment. Look at the world through their eyes. >> >Sometimes it is only a tiny thing that really separates us. >> > >> >Some thoughts that may or may not have bearing on the >> >above. Why am I part of all of this Project ???... >> >I started down this road because people in this Project had >> >helped me and I wanted to return their generosity to the >> >Project Community. I had always been a Volunteer at >> >something, and this just felt right. It feels to good to >> >share, and to share with family even better and if you look >> >at this in the way that I do, we are all cousins, we just >> >haven't proved the connection yet. >> >I am a bit obsessive, I, through some stroke of luck (good >> >or bad), fate or divine intervention, have come up with a >> >job that helps with my Volunteering with this Project... I >> >have become the "Ancient Records Coordinator" for the >> >Alachua County (FL) Clerk of the Courts Office. I took a >> >pay cut to take the job, a substantial one. But then again, >> >I am much richer than I could be with money. (There does >> >have to be money here somewhere to keep our information >> >online) My loyalties lie with Genealogy and History and the >> >researchers that are out there looking for connections. >> > >> >We CAN work together, if we want to... I want to... >> > >> >Thanks for listening Cousins, >> >Jim Powell Jr >> >Waldo, FL >> > >> >Goodbye "Bones" (Dr. McCoy) DeForest Kelley. >> > >> > Family Homepage: Http://www.afn.org/~afn03098/ >> >Coordinator of Henderson County KyGenweb Page >> > Http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyhender/ >> >Coordinator of Gilchrist County FLGenWeb Page >> > Http://www.rootsweb.com/~flgilchr/ >> >Coordinator of Alachua County FLGenWeb Page >> > Http://www.rootsweb.com/~flalachu/ >> >Coordinator of Bradford County FLGenWeb Page >> > Http://www.rootsweb.com/~flbradfo/ >> >Assistant State Coordinator FLGenWeb >> >Ancient Records Coordinator / Alachua County, FL, Clerk of >> >the Courts Office >> > >> > >> >==== USGenWeb-SE Mailing List ==== >> >Congratulations new SE/MA CC Rep! >> >Jim Powell, Jr <jpowelljr@worldnet.att.net> >> >> ==== USGenWeb-SE Mailing List ==== >> Announcements - official project announcements/business >> http://www.usgenweb.org/official/official.html >