We have a new volunteer for Lake County,her name is; Kathy Huish , she has her version up and running at the same URL as before so when you get a chance take a look at it. Welcome Kathy. In another note, I have decided to take the USGenWeb board position so I may be calling on you'all for advise. Later...........Fred

Hi, I will also be attending the Indiana Genealogical Conference... Hope to meet other Indiana County Coordinators there. Here is the information of it. Barbara Cline Hutchinson Marion County GenWeb CC ======== 1998 Indiana Genealogical Society Annual Meeting & Workshop Saturday 4 April 1998 at the Indiana Convention Center Indianapolis, Indiana Featuring Nationally-Acclaimed Speakers James W. Warren & Paula Stuart Warren, CGRS �A New Spot on Your Ancestral Map: Strategies for Researching an Unfamiliar Locality. �Using Periodicals to Find Information You Won't Find Anywhere Else. �Newspaper Research for the Genealogist: Beyond the Basics. �Writing Your Family History in Small, Manageable Pieces. �Did You Marry Me for My Family History? And More! ******* ======================================================== In a message dated 98-04-03 08:59:33 EST, you write: << Subj: Re: IGS Conference Date: 98-04-03 08:59:33 EST From: randyk@si-net.com (Randy Klemme) Reply-to: INDYTALK-L@rootsweb.com To: INDYTALK-L@rootsweb.com Is that the conference here in Connersville. Seems like there is a genealogy conference here in town this weekend? Randy Klemme Franklin County >>

In a message dated 98-04-01 22:46:12 EST, you write: > Subj: RE: Brown CO, IN??? > Date: 98-04-01 22:46:12 EST > From: arnold2@worldnet.att.net (Sharon Arnold) > To: NormanSM@aol.com ('NormanSM') > > Thank you Norman. I visit the IN county homepages so frequently you should > charge me rent but always expect "instant" trips to the pages that I click > on. You guys do a great job up there and I appreciate it. > > Sharon Arnold > Hi Sharon, Thanks for the kind words. I am sharing your note with the rest of the county coordinators. Steve Norman

Dee, has a new web site set up listing our Indiana Counties that are available to adopt,she also has included a "waiting list" so if you would like to have a County that is taken now be sure to leave your name and she will put on the list if the County ever needs a new host in the future.Be sure to check it out at; http://www.aye.net/~dee1234/indy/ You might want to link to this site so that everyone can check it out ,maybe we can get a new volunteer or two. Thanks to all that sent their thoughts on the USGenWeb board position,and to those that asked,I would have to remain as the SC because that is one requirement to be a board member.I am still thinking but will probably accept, I will let everyone know what I decide on this. Later........Fred

Well, I had some success in adopting our "orphan" Counties. Dee Floyd-Pavey has taken over Scott County,same URL,new host Sharon Craig is doing the "Unknown" site,the new URL is; http://www.rootsweb.com/~inunknow/inunknow.htm Dee has also offered to set up a "orphan" County site,can't wait to see how it looks,it should be a big help to me and hopefully will bring more attention to these Counties that need a host,more on that later. Now for another bit of news; Megan has offered me a position on the USGenWeb board of directors,I am still thinking about this and would like some input from you'all,if I do take it I would like to have all or at least some of the Indiana CCs input on any vote that I would need to make. I don't believe in a select few making all the decisions' for the people that make this system work ( read CCs). Let me know what you think. Later..........Fred

Fred - If you've got the time and energy to take it on - I am behind you! You've done a good job as a SC since taking over from Betty Sellers. You keep in touch & keep us informed - thanks! Tracey Moris > Now for another bit of news; > Megan has offered me a position on the USGenWeb board of directors,I am >still thinking about this and would like some input from you'all,if I do >take it I would like to have all or at least some of the Indiana CCs input >on any vote that I would need to make. I don't believe in a select few >making all the decisions' for the people that make this system work ( read >CCs). > >Let me know what you think. > >Later..........Fred > >

At 08:18 AM 3/31/98 -0800, Fred wrote: > Does anyone know why I or anyone else for that matter doesn't have >permission to access the server www.usroots.com , I have a note from >someone telling me they can't get into Gibson County so I tried and >couldn't either. I think that's the server that goes hand-in-hand with www.usgenweb.com, which is the one run by the new USGenWeb, Inc. people. From what I understand after lurking on the USGenWeb-ALL listserv, they have taken those sites down temporarily to reconstruct some things??? I just got in on the tail end of that discussion. What a mess. Cathy Burnsed Wells County -~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~%*%~-~ Cathy (GARDENOUR) Burnsed ~ ~ ~ Librarian ~ ~ ~ cburnsed@mci2000.com Personal Home Page ~ http://www.afn.org/~afn30091/ Wells County INGenWeb Project ~ http://www.rootsweb.com/~inwells/ FLGenWeb Archives ~ http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/fl/flfiles.htm

Hi, We have lost a good volunteer,Opal Gerdes has had to resign all her Indiana Counties.So we now have several Indiana Counties that needs a host; DECATUR LAKE PUTNAM SCOTT UNKNOWN If you are interested in any of these let me know,they all have an account at rootsweb.Opal has donated any of the pages online at the sites now for use by the new host and she has the automated query system running on all the sites.I have had a couple of nibbles on Daviess but so far nothing comfirmed so it to is available along with a set of twins that I would like to see stay together,Dearborn and Ohio. Now for some good news,Darlene Anderson of Boone County has a brand new Grandbaby,her name is Kayli Marie Aughe, mother and daughter are fine but we still don't know if Grandma is going to make it OK ;) Does anyone know why I or anyone else for that matter doesn't have permission to access the server www.usroots.com , I have a note from someone telling me they can't get into Gibson County so I tried and couldn't either. One last thing, Is INDYTALK still alive???? Later.........Fred

I have been offered and have accepted the offer of free web space for the Huntington County Genealogy Home Page on Huntington County's community network server. This move has allowed me to reclaim much needed web space, and gain a URL that ties directly to my community. I have put an auto-redirect on the old address. The new address is: http://nfp.huntington.in.us/genweb/ Scott Satterthwaite Huntington County InGenWeb

To those of you who may be subscribed to the USGenWeb-All-List; in my opinion it is in your best interest to unsubscribe from this list. It has reached the point that it is now an insult to all of us. [This is my personal opinion and I am not speaking on behalf of the INGenWeb project only myself.] Sam Cline

Hi, Here are a couple of things that you may want to know; First , Judy Palmaffy of Noble County has a new e-mail address,if you have her old address somewhere you will want to change it ; OLD address: palmaff@ibm.net NEW address: ancestors@cbd.net Second, you can now have a bio page that works just like the new query and obits,let me know if you are interested and I will get you started or you can request these at this URL; http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~usgwqury/signup.cgi I think that will do it for now. Later........Fred

I haven't seen this pass by this list; thought you all would be interested. Cathy Burnsed Wells County INGenWeb Project Coordinator _________________________ Subject: [USGENWEB-ALL-L] USGenWeb Press Release Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:44:20 -0600 From: "Ms. Piglet" <pigoletto@worldnet.att.net> To: listowners-L@rootsweb.com, TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com, ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com, leverich@rootsweb.com CC: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com, stephenL@indiana.edu The following is the official statement about recent changes at USGenWeb. Please disseminate this to the public---thanks. Megan and the Board. There has been a recent change in the main internet address for The USGenWeb Project. The project has learned that individuals associated with the server where our main URL was housed have formed a corporation, USGenWeb, Inc. Since The USGenWeb Project was founded on the belief of "free access for all," we are concerned there may be public confusion about the relationship between this for-profit corporation and The USGenWeb Project. As a result we have removed our presence from that server. Please be sure to change your bookmarks for The USGenWeb Project. We can be accessed through either of the following URLs: http://www.usgenweb.net http://www.usgenweb.org Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused. Megan Zurawicz, National Coordinator, The USGenWeb Project The Advisory Board, The USGenWeb Project ______________________________

Hello D. Robbins Thanks for your message and support. Barbara Hutchinson Marion Co. IN. GenWeb CC In a message dated 98-03-23 13:53:18 EST, Darburns writes: << Subj: INGENWEB: From: A Silent Concerned County Coordinator Date: 98-03-23 13:33:04 EST From: quester@netusa1.net (D. Robbins) Sender: owner-ingen-l@castor.usroots.com Reply-to: quester@netusa1.net Yes, I agree with Barbara Hutchinson. I, too, am afraid that material from our sites will be used for profit. I am holding all material right now until I learn what is going to happen, and I'm THINKING about turning off my ancestry pages that have been freely contributed to HELP others not to make a profit. D. Robbins Carroll County INGenWeb Project Coordinator Volunteer http://www.netusa1.net/~quester/index.html -

Hello Everyone, I am the County Coordinator for Marion County, IN. and Macon County, TN. I also have several other volunteer positions with Genealogical projects that I do. I have been doing Family Research and Genealogy for many many years and belong to several Genealogical Societies and Historical Societies. I am also the Publications Director of the "GSMC Family Quest" journal for the Genealogical Society of Marion County, Indiana. Now that I have given you a little information of myself. I want to express my concerns about all the messages that I have been reading for the past 3 days about the USGenWeb---------. I have Family Material that I could add to the County sites, but I am thinking that I should contact the CONTRIBUTOR and let them know about what is going on and ask if they still want their Family Material placed on the Web Site. I was under the understanding that when I decided to be the Coutny Coodinator for USGenWeb, that this was a NON-PROFIT service provided for Genealogist. I must have misunderstood something. I realize that anyone can copy material from anywhere and publish it for profit, but I am very concerned that as County Coordinators--- we are doing a GREAT injustice to all the WONDERFUL FAMILY GENEALOGIST out here, if we don't let them know that the Family Information (Bible Records, Family Letters, Family Stories, Family ETC) that they are contributing to all of us for the purpose of sharing and connecting to distant cousins and to Help others with their research, is being copied and published for profit. Many Family Genealogist that are contributing are doing it ---- NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF OTHERS TO COPY AND PUBLISH FOR PROFIT !! There may be some of the Family Genealogist that may not mind if this is done with their material and that is truly okay, but there are others that are NOT aware that this is being done and will not approve. Some are not aware that their information is public domain when placed on these sites or is owned by the SITE. The OPTION should be given to the Contributing Family Genealogist. They need to be informed that: " ANY MATERIAL CONTRIBUTED TO THE USGENWEB COUNTY SITES MAY BE COPIED AND PUBLISHED FOR PROFIT. " Also the Family Genealogist should be advised that when contributing information they should be given the credit for being the submitter and also place a COPY of the Family Information in the County Library, and with any Historical or Genealogical Society in that County and State of their Ancestors. With their name and the date on the material. So, if the purpose is to share and contribute your Family material then it is there for anyone doing research in that County to find. To some this may not seem like a BIG Deal, But I have done Family Research and Genealogy for many years and I respect other Family Genealogist as I know that it is a very expensive and time consuming LABOR OF LOVE, and you should be given the credit for doing the WORK. The knowledge of what can be done to Contibutors Family Information should be given and the option should be up to them. If I am in anyway misunderstanding just what is going on with USGENWEB,. then PLEASE let me know. I have discussed this with other County Coordinators and we all share these same feelings, even though the most of us are sitting back and waiting to see just what is going to happen, and just what is happening to the material that we work hard to provide---- as we thought to be a NON-PROFIT site. Again, if I have misunderstood just what is happening, then PLEASE let me know. Barbara Hutchinson Macon Co.TN. GenWeb CC Marion Co. IN. GenWeb CC Pub. Director with the Genealogical Society of Marion County, Indiana Family Newsletter Many many web-pages for the purpose of sharing information.

Hi , Well I am still here,just been busy this weekend.I do want to thank all those that sent your notes telling me I was doing a good job,they are appreciated.I couldn't do it without all of you tho. We have a new volunteer for Henry County,her name is Linda Aker and she has re-worked the site,it looks great,when you get the time take a look at it at; http://www.rootsweb.com/~inhenry/henry.htm We need to check our link to the USGenWeb site,there were three address' that I passed along a few months ago,one of those is no longer any good,here are the two good URLs to the USGenWeb site; http://www.usgenweb.org/ http://www.usgenweb.net/ The one with the .com on the end no longer has the USGenWeb info. Sam sent me a note about the Indiana State Library getting rid of some old newspapers,if you think your local Gen. Soc. would be interested in them be sure to pass this along. ***********NEWSPAPER INFO.************************************* NEWSPAPERS ON THIS LIST WILL BE DESTROYED ON APRIL 21, 1998. INDIANA STATE LIBRARY Library Material Deaccessioning Listserv As instructed by the Indiana Library and Historical Board, the Indiana State Library will be offering deaccessioned material to Indiana libraries and historical societies. E-mail address changes, deletions, etc. should be directed to jsarber@statelib.lib.in.us. Initially each list will consist of ten (10) titles. Included for each title will be author, title, call number, publisher, Indiana State Library holdings, subject heading(s), and condition (i.e. poor condition, bound etc.) as appropriate. Later the size of each list may vary depending on amount of material, availability of holding area storage space and staff responsibilities. Material will be available on a first-come-first-served basis. Requests should be e-mailed to hoster@statelib.lib.in.us within thirty (30) days of initial posting. Requesting library or historical society must pay any shipping charges or arrange for pickup. Pickup must take place no later than thirty (30) days following notification by the Indiana State Library that your library or society has been selected to receive requested material. Successful and unsuccessful requests will be notified by e-mail as soon as possible. Title: Amboy independent. Holdings: 1949-1952 (weekly) Subject: United States--Indiana--Miami--Amboy. Condition: fair Call number: Newspaper Room Title: Star-tribune. Holdings: Jan. 3, 1990 to Nov. 26, 1991 (weekly) Subject: United States--Indiana--Fountain--Attica. Condition: fair Call number: Newspaper Room Title: Fountain County neighbor. Holdings: Nov. 29, 1991 to 1996 (weekly) Subject: United States--Indiana--Fountain--Attica. Condition: fair Call number: Newspaper Room Title: Perry Township weekly. Holdings: 1941 to 1996 (weekly) Subject: United States--Indiana--Marion--Beech Grove. Condition: fair Call number: Newspaper Room Title: Tri-weekly news. Holdings: Aug. 16, 1976 to 1996 (3/week) Subject: United States--Indiana--Adams--Berne. Condition: fair Call number: Newspaper Room Title: Bicknell daily news. Holdings: Jan., 1951 to May, 1968 (daily) Subject: United States--Indiana--Knox--Bicknell. Condition: fair Call number: Newspaper Room Title: Knox County daily news. Holdings: June, 1968 to Dec. 8, 1990; Jan. 11, 1991 to Mar. 18, 1995 (daily) Subject: United States--Indiana--Knox--Bicknell. Condition: fair Call number: Newspaper Room Title: Morning news report. Holdings: Dec. 10, 1990 to Sept. 6, 1991 (daily) Subject: United States--Indiana--Knox--Bicknell. Condition: fair Call number: Newspaper Room Title: Knox County news. Holdings: Mar. 21 - Oct. 12, 1995 (weekly) Subject: United States--Indiana--Knox--Bicknell. Condition: fair Call number: Newspaper Room Title: North Knox news. Holdings: Oct. 14, 1995 to 1996 (weekly) Subject: United States--Indiana--Knox--Bicknell. Condition: fair Call number: Newspaper Room

Received this from a friend -- unsure whether this is REAL or a form of jokes that go around once in awhile -- but considering that I had heard through the grape-vine for the past 5 years from many of my European friends (that this was coming) I am going to treat it as serious, but you can judge for yourself and only time will tell -- feel this is something we genealogists may need to know for coming future messages, books, research (if real) and if this isn't real it is still great as a joke (almost like that one about the spell-checker). Judy M. >Ya'll--- > >Irma received this item from a friend in Germany. >I found it eksedingly funy (alzo not sur why), so am forwarding. > > >SUBJECT: Euro-English: The Five-Year Plan >You thought it would never happen > >The European Commission have just announced an agreement whereby English >will be the official language of the EU, rather than German, which was >the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Govt. >conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has >accepted a 5-year phase-in plan that would be known as Euro-English";-- > >In the first year, "S" will replace the soft "C." Sertainly, this will >make the sivil servants jump with Joy. The hard "C" will be dropped in >favor of the "K." This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have >one less letter. > >There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the >troublesome "PH" will be replaced with the "F." This will make words >like fotograf 20% shorter. > >In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted >to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. >Government will enkourage the removal of double letters, which have >always been a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the >horible mes of the silent "E" in the language is disgrasful, and they >should go away. > >By the 4th yar, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "TH" >with "Z," and "W" with "V." > >During ze fifz yar, ze unesesary "O" can be dropd from vords kontaining >"OU" and similar changs vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of >leters. > >After zis fifz yar, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil no mor >be trubls or difikiltis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech >ozer. > >ZE DREM VIL FINALI KUM TRU !!!!! >

I need to say nothing else, except I totally agree with Tracey. Oh, yes, I do need to say; I have added a rather large list of links to the INGenWeb Links page. They are in a list at the top of the opening page. [Do to some health problems and a lack of "time" it may be some time before I get them in their correct categories.] More later, probably. Sam Cline

Hi, There is a little more on the new company with our name, I have included that info. below this Indiana news. Whitley County Indiana has moved to a new location,you will find it at; http://home.whitleynet.org/genealogy/gswc.htm#genweb Be sure to update any links to the site. Now for the news on the new company,a few of you have asked about our name being copyrighted or covered by registered trademark,as I understand it it may in fact be covered but since we are NOT incorporated it would be difficult for us to fight this.We have no official board to take this to court and since these others registered the name they may win anyway.I am not sure of the new company's intentions,they may be willing to work with us but we would have no way to stop them if they decided to do something that we don't approve of. Here is a message I received from the founders of the new company (USGenWeb Inc.) It is a rather long message but is worth reading. ***********START MESSAGE************************************ Please forgive the delay in getting this message to each of you. We have been sending messages to the State Coordinator's List and to the USGenWeb-All List, but we just discovered that those messages are not going through to anyone. These lists may not be current, so please forgive any bounces this message may cause. We just want to do our best to get the truth of the matter into your mail boxes. Thank you for you patience and for all you do to make The USGenWeb Project a national success for genealogists everywhere. Here is the very long message I sent to all the lists yesterday: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Friends, Lucy and I have committed a serious error in judgement. In our effort to help a project in which we truly believe and to which we have devoted our lives for well over two years, we have, instead, dealt a serious blow to cooperation and love among genealogists. For that we sincerely apologize. If our actions have created a financial burden to any person within this entire community, please provide us with documentation and we will reimburse you immediately. We are not aware of any such burdens, but we stand ready to face whatever music you feel is appropriate. We also apologize that you were made aware, by someone other than ourselves, of our forming the USGenWeb, Inc. entity. The circumstances under which the corporation was formed were changed mid-stream and we chose to not publish the information at all. On Monday, 16 March 1998, having been asked about the corporation, we entered into discussion with the National Coordinator. Then, yesterday, I was allowed an audience with the USGW Board. We were giving them opportunity to decide what approach they would have us take, with the understanding that we would release our announcement when they felt it appropriate, if at all. Again, we apologize that you were not allowed to know the reasons compelling us to incorporate, before all the questions and accusations hit these lists. We have now spent nearly $8,000, not counting normal connectivity charges, postage, long-distance phone charges, travel costs, books, etc., etc. (the stuff all you folks also do in pursuit of this hobby), all in an effort to further the work of FREE genealogical data and research on the internet. We have not received one nickel from our activities, nor have we done any of what we've done in an effort to make a profit. I realize no one believes me when I make that statement, but it is true, nonetheless. We also recognize that we have now ruined our reputation, as well as our effectiveness. For that, we are also very sorry. We are guilty of stupidity and bad judgement. Other than that, we have no problem facing the One who will judge us all. For what it's worth, here is the announcement that was never published: Thursday, March 19, 1998 MEMORANDUM TO: USGenWeb Project participants and associates FROM: USGenWeb, Inc. SUBJECT: We are legal, at last! As we begin the third calendar year of the USGenWeb Project's existence, we are excited to be able to announce that we are finally a legal organization, with all the rights, privileges, opportunities, and responsibilities granted by the laws of the United States of America. We no longer need to be concerned about whether we have protection against copyright infringements, libel, slander, theft or any other threat against property or life, as granted by those laws. We ARE protected, as of January 1, 1998. That was the good news! And, now, for those of you are looking for the bad news-NONE has been identified. We encourage all current participants in the USGenWeb Project, including the Census Project, the Archives Project, the Tombstone Project, the Civil War Project, the Surname Project and all other current projects or sub-projects to take advantage of our new legal status. You are welcome to place a statement about copyright protection, as granted under the Corporate Shell, as you see fit for your pages. We wish to assure all State Coordinators and County Coordinators that your web sites are and will continue to be your own property. Copyrights of all materials contributed to the USGenWeb Archives are and will continue to be vested in the contributor. In other words, nothing has changed, except the gaining of legal status and all its benefits to the entire organization. The Articles of Incorporation have not and will not presume to take any ownership of those pages. You may have all the benefits you want without giving up any personal rights. As stated above, all USGenWeb Project will continue, business as usual, with the addition of benefits as provided by the corporate shell. The National Coordinator and the USGW Board remain in charge of the USGenWeb Project, just as are all USGW Archives Managers, State Coordinators and County Coordinators. USGenWeb.Inc is not taking control of any part of the project. The USGenWeb Project will continue as we have been, operating from the normal URL of http://www.usgenweb.com/ We hope you will be pleased about this new legal status. Should you have any further questions or concerns, please contact one of the three officers of USGenWeb, Inc. Best regards to all, Capt. Pat Smith Capt.Pat@rootsquest.com Lucy N Dill lnd@rootsquest.com Jerry E Dill jed@rootsquest.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- And finally, I apologize for the *very* long message in your inbox--especially to those of you who happen to be on more than one of these lists. Jerry E Dill, CPA Administrative Manager RootsQuest.Com 811 Terry Drive Emmett, ID 83617-3170 (208) 365-5328 FAX: (208) 365-9495 or 365 -1270 http://www.rootsquest.com jed@rootsquest.com CPA.Dill@MCI2000.com ICQ UIN 3711901 Treasurer and Systems Administrator United States Internet Genealogical Society http://www.usigs.org Systems Administrator USGenWeb.Com http://www.usgenweb.com USGenWeb Idaho Archives Manager http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/id/idfiles.htm DILL Surname - DILL Family Reunion "Site of the World's Largest Pickle" http://www.rootsquest.com/cpadill/dillgen/dill.html

Since you probably don't hear this often enough.... Fred, I think you're doing a fine job. I subscribe to USGENWEB-ALL-L and you've passed on the important info - the only thing you might also want to add is Jerry Dill's formal "apology" message (which you might have, I'm still digging thru 2 days worth of messages!) I've never felt either you or Betty (our prrevious SC) to be either unresponsive or "meddling". You give us the support & breathing room we need. If anyone else has problems with their SC or another CC - I fully agree with sending msgs to the particular person, taking it to the state mailing list next, and only THEN if it can't get resolved, taking it to the national level. Keep up the good work, everyone! Tracey Morris Howard Co IN CC -- ************************************************************************ Tracey Morris -- morris@netusa1.net http://www.netusa1.net/~morris USGenWeb Project County Coordinator - http://www.usgenweb.org Rootsweb Donor - http://www.rootsweb.com

Please take the time to read these two messages from Megan our USGenWeb coordinator. This first one should NOT have an immediate effect but may trun out to be a problem later. **************MEGAN"S MESSAGE*********************** Jerry Dill, Lucy Dill, and Pat Smith have privately incorporated as USGenWeb, Inc., a for-profit Idaho corporation. Having done so, they have held that information close to the chest for two and a half months, not informing the National Coordinator of USGW, the Board, or any other volunteer, to the best of my knowledge. I found this out last Monday, and the Board and I have been discussing how to deal with the situation both with and without Jerry Dill, ever since then. LET ME STATE CLEARLY FOR ALL VOLUNTEERS: Every piece of information we have been able to gather says that in NO way does this give their corporation ownership of The USGenWeb Project or any part of it. I intended this information to go public a bit more smoothly, tomorrow. As it happens, however, it's been leaked on a reasonably large list; in order to minimize privately passed misinformation, I'm announcing it now. megan -- Megan Zurawicz, National Coordinator USGenWeb * pigoletto@worldnet.att.net http://www.usgenweb.net * http://www.usgenweb.org * http://www.usgenweb.com ************END MEGAN'S MESSAGE********************************* What she is talking about here is the fact that with this company having the same name as our project it may cause some confusion,the USGenWeb project has NOT privately incorporated. In her next message,you will want to know in case you have a problem with me. ************MEGAN'S MESSAGE********************************** There are two state coordinators that we're having real problems with (my definition of "real problem" being that my mailbox is filling with complaints both from ccs and the public that they are unaccessible or unresponsive). We've another that answers mail well, but has a disagreement with what I think is the common perception of a state coordinator's job: doesn't think it's their job to deal with county pages that don't meet standards, or aren't updated, or are just plain abandoned. Since the method that was used to deal with a similar situation was less than optimum, perhaps we need to develop another method of dealing with this situation. When there's this much problem, it might be a good thing if county coordinators were willing to publicly state that they are having problems, so they can be worked out or a clear solution found (especially when it's this widespread). It really *is* difficult for me or the board to handle the situation on the basis of mail that comes to me with "you can't tell even the board it's me that said this". People, if you aren't willing to stand up and say "HEY I GOT A PROBLEM" in public, it isn't fair to ask other folks to remove somebody from their job because you're unhappy. That said....let the discussion of who's got problems with who begin. Perhaps a public discussion that that many people have got specific problems with the way an SC does or doesn't do their job will lead to them correcting the problem; if not, then other steps may have to be taken. I doubt we've got ANY SC that at least one cc doesn't have a problem with (at least in states with more than 50 counties<G>), and that's okay. What we want to look at is those places where it's a majority problem. megan megan -- Megan Zurawicz, National Coordinator USGenWeb * pigoletto@worldnet.att.net http://www.usgenweb.net * http://www.usgenweb.org * http://www.usgenweb.com *********END MEGAN'S MESSAGE**************************************** Later...........Fred