-----Original Message----- From: Tracy Jones <ptjones@scican.net> Date: Monday, September 07, 1998 9:32 AM Subject: Fw: [INFRANKLI-L] Re: Germans to Franklin Co. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Lucy Weaver <north@defnet.com> >To: INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com <INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, September 07, 1998 7:15 AM >Subject: [INFRANKLI-L] Re: Germans to Franklin Co. > > >>Tom: Can't answer your questions abt. books or studies on the Germans to >>Frnaklin Co.IN., but my gt. granfather Herman B. RULMANN, Sr. immigr. in >>1865 from Messingen, Hanover, Germany & first came to Cinci.OH., & then to >>Oldenburg, where he bought a flouring mill. Another ancestor John Henry >>BROKAMP was in Oldenburg by 1840 or before. He immigr. from Steinfeld, >>Oldenburg, Germany abt. 1834, first to Cinci., OH. then to Oldenburg. Lucy >>Weaver, Defiance,OH. north@defnet.com >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Dr. Thomas G. Wack <drwackes@hgo.net> >>To: INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com <INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Monday, September 07, 1998 9:41 AM >>Subject: Unidentified subject! >> >> >>>Does anyone know of books or articles about the German immigrants to >>>Franklin and the nearby counties? Such as studies done on the Germans of >>>Cincinnati. >>> >>>Obviously, during certain periods there were large influxes of Germans to >>>parts of southern Indiana. Why did they come there? Did they tend to >come >>>only from certain areas or states in Germany? In what years were their >>>numbers the strongest? Did they tend to be artisans, or were they >>farmers? >>> >>>Tom Wack >>> >> >> >

Dan, Dan, You failed to give your grandfather's name. Will you expound on your line so that we might have a "connect" with someone? Thanks. Cleo

Tom: Can't answer your questions abt. books or studies on the Germans to Frnaklin Co.IN., but my gt. granfather Herman B. RULMANN, Sr. immigr. in 1865 from Messingen, Hanover, Germany & first came to Cinci.OH., & then to Oldenburg, where he bought a flouring mill. Another ancestor John Henry BROKAMP was in Oldenburg by 1840 or before. He immigr. from Steinfeld, Oldenburg, Germany abt. 1834, first to Cinci., OH. then to Oldenburg. Lucy Weaver, Defiance,OH. north@defnet.com -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Thomas G. Wack <drwackes@hgo.net> To: INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com <INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, September 07, 1998 9:41 AM Subject: Unidentified subject! >Does anyone know of books or articles about the German immigrants to >Franklin and the nearby counties? Such as studies done on the Germans of >Cincinnati. > >Obviously, during certain periods there were large influxes of Germans to >parts of southern Indiana. Why did they come there? Did they tend to come >only from certain areas or states in Germany? In what years were their >numbers the strongest? Did they tend to be artisans, or were they farmers? > >Tom Wack >

Does anyone know of books or articles about the German immigrants to Franklin and the nearby counties? Such as studies done on the Germans of Cincinnati. Obviously, during certain periods there were large influxes of Germans to parts of southern Indiana. Why did they come there? Did they tend to come only from certain areas or states in Germany? In what years were their numbers the strongest? Did they tend to be artisans, or were they farmers? Tom Wack

In a message dated 9/7/98 11:39:36 AM Central Daylight Time, p- oconnor@worldnet.att.net writes: << Pat, there should be court records of them if it happened after Franklin Co. had a court. >> Thank you. I will check it out. Pat

Pat, I have always heard the term as "bound boy." It applied to girls as well. Before there were orphanages or social service agencies, children who were orphaned or whose parents or relatives were otherwise unable to take care of them were usually "bound out." A court-appointed guardian would sign bonds of indenture (hence the term "bound" or "bond") with an individual who agreed to care for the child until his or her majority (18 for girls, 21 for boys). The bonds that I have seen were all pretty much the same formula language: the individual signing the bond agreed to educate the child, teach him or her farming, housewifery or a trade and give him or her something upon reaching majority: usually a suit of clothes and a little money; sometimes for girls a featherbed or other household furnishings for a dowry; sometimes for boys a horse. What they got in return, of course, was cheap labor. "Bound" children were often treated as servants, got very little education and often didn't get what had been promised them at their majority. I think the practice started to die out after about the middle of the 19th century, when government bodies began to take more responsibility for orphans and destitute children. My great-grandfather, who was born in Franklin County, was bound out along with his four siblings and seven cousins when their parents died shortly after moving to Iowa in 1843. I would be interested in hearing any information others might have on this practice. dan_cambridge@cmfz

Hi Am looking for clues to this LEE family. Looks like some ties with SMITH, FASSET, GILMORE, PARKER possibly. I have copies of the following from an old Bible found in an Aunt's home after she died. William LE m. 1795 to Clarissa SMITH in Fairhaven, Rutland, VT Their children were: Huldah LEE, b. 1798 in Danby, Rutland, VT Sallie LEE, b. 1801 in Danby, Rutland, VT Peter Smith LEE, b. Jan 1803 in Onondaga Co, NY, d. 1803 in Onondaga, NY Parker Smith LEE, b. July 1804 in Onondaga, NY, d. Aug 1805 in Rome, Oneida, NY William Smith LEE, b. Aug 1806 in Rome, Oneida, NY, d. Oct 1807 in Rome, NY George Fasset LEE, b. Apr 1808 in Rome, Oneida, NY Joseph Clea(v)land LEE, b. Sept 1809 in rome, Oneida, NY William Lacy LEE, b. Nov 18?? in Rome, Oneida, NY, d. July 1820 in Fayetteville, NC Adnirom LEE, b. Mar 1813 in Ovid, Seneca, NY, d. May 1813 in Ovid, Seneca, NY William LEE's wife, Slarissa died abt 1813 and he remarried a Polly Richmond in Aug 1813 in Ovid, Seneca, NY There were also entries for the following: Mary Jane Vilott was born in Franklin Co, Ind, July 7, 18?? (I think 1837). She married Wm L GILMORE Oct 1858 in Fayette, IN. Frances Fletcher Gilmore died the 18th day of March 1863. Carry Belle Gilmore died 16th day of September 1863. Does this make sense to anyone? If so, I would love to hear from you. Hope you are having a great long weekend. Laura Gilmore Nampa, Idaho

In a message dated 9/6/98 7:23:50 PM Central Daylight Time, dan_cambridge@cmfz.com writes: << I have always heard the term as "bound boy." It applied to girls as well. Before there were orphanages or social service agencies, children who were orphaned or whose parents or relatives were otherwise unable to take care of them were usually "bound out." >> Dan, Thank you for the reply and explanation of Bound Boys. I had not heard of it before. I wonder if any paper was recorded or anything or if there are records that were kept of such transactions. Probably not. Thanks again. Really appreciate it. Pat W

I have some info on some IN relatives who who supposed to have been "bond boys" for Joseph Voorhies. Can anyone tell me what that term meant? Will cover two things at once here in case there are VOORHIES and CROW and COVERT researchers looking at this. Joseph Voorhies - wife Jane Covert daughter Lydia Voorhies married William Crow born 1833 IN daughter Margaret Voorhies married Alexander Crow born 1826 VA William and Alexander were said to have been the "bond boys" to Joseph Voorhies??? Pat W

HAPPYDI@aol.com wrote: > > Patricia O'Connor wrote on 1 Sept 1998 > < Dr. Tom > Family Tree Maker has books on line some of them from Franklin Co. > > > Can you tell me/us how you access Family Tree Maker? > > Phil Phil, www.familytreemaker.com Good luck, Pat

In a message dated 9/3/98 8:14:32 PM Central Daylight Time, p- oconnor@worldnet.att.net writes: << HAPPYDI@aol.com wrote: > > Patricia O'Connor wrote on 1 Sept 1998 > < Dr. Tom > Family Tree Maker has books on line some of them from Franklin Co. > > > Can you tell me/us how you access Family Tree Maker? > > Phil Phil, www.familytreemaker.com Good luck, Pat >> Phil, You have to subscribe to use FTM's library. The directions are on their site. Debi

Hi! I thought I would let y'all know that I have a lot of Indiana families represented in my database at my web site for the Denton and related families. There are over 15,000 people in the database, plus a lot of other information on the site. If any of you have Dentons in your lines, I would love to hear from you! There are also some down-loadable gedcom files for families other than Denton that I have in my at-home database, such as Hunt, Moore, Plumlee, Cooper, Chastain, O'Dell, French, Shipman, Baker and Huff. All of these families intersect in some way with the Dentons, but have a great deal more information in the gedcoms that is on the site. There is a lot of other information on the site as well that you might find interesting, as well, since so many of the Denton and related families were early into Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama and Georgia as well as the Carolinas. The address is: http://www.acun.com/dentons I hope you find something of value! Blessings! Sue Montgomery-Cook

Randy, I wondered about that! :) Thanks for the correction. Norma At 11:31 AM 9/3/98 -0500, you wrote: >Sorry that's Butler Township...Randy > >randy klemme wrote: > >> St Mary's is in Buler Township.... >> >> Randy Klemme >> Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator >> >> My Eastern Kentucky Surnames http://www.angelfire.com/oh/myfamilygenes/ Adams/Baker/Bivens/Brashears/Cornett/Dotson/ Gentry/Lykins/Stamper/Werner

Sorry that's Butler Township...Randy randy klemme wrote: > St Mary's is in Buler Township.... > > Randy Klemme > Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator > > Norma Adams wrote: > > > Hi, > > Can someone tell me which township the town of St. Mary's is in? > > Thanks > > Norma Adams - Middletown,Oh > > > > My Eastern Kentucky Surnames > > http://www.angelfire.com/oh/myfamilygenes/ > > Adams/Baker/Bivens/Brashears/Cornett/Dotson/ > > Gentry/Lykins/Stamper/Werner > > > > ==== INFRANKLI Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE to the list send e-mail to: > > INFRANKLI-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put only the word "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message. > > > > Any special requests e-mail: randyk@si-net.com

St Mary's is in Buler Township.... Randy Klemme Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator Norma Adams wrote: > Hi, > Can someone tell me which township the town of St. Mary's is in? > Thanks > Norma Adams - Middletown,Oh > > My Eastern Kentucky Surnames > http://www.angelfire.com/oh/myfamilygenes/ > Adams/Baker/Bivens/Brashears/Cornett/Dotson/ > Gentry/Lykins/Stamper/Werner > > ==== INFRANKLI Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to the list send e-mail to: > INFRANKLI-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put only the word "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message. > > Any special requests e-mail: randyk@si-net.com

Hi, Can someone tell me which township the town of St. Mary's is in? Thanks Norma Adams - Middletown,Oh My Eastern Kentucky Surnames http://www.angelfire.com/oh/myfamilygenes/ Adams/Baker/Bivens/Brashears/Cornett/Dotson/ Gentry/Lykins/Stamper/Werner

Randy, you are right about Franklin Co. having some beautiful spots! I especially like Oldenburg. My gt. grandmother Maria HACKMAN RULMANN ran the HACKMAN General Store on the main street of Oldenburg. We visited with Gilbert Munchel(a distant cousin) who ran the store ,several years ago (before his death). Hope to return there this fall. Lucy Weaver north@defnet.com -----Original Message----- From: randy klemme <randyk@si-net.com> To: INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com <INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [INFRANKLI-L] Franklin County References >Wish that I knew you were in the area.... I would have liked to met with you, but >I am glad you had an enjoyable stop. Franklin County has some beautiful sites.... > >Randy Klemme >Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator > >HAPPYDI@aol.com wrote: > >> I visited Franklin Co. two weeks ago. I spent most of my time in Oldenburg. >> Saw the houses that my grandfather Joseph SELLMEYER and grandmother Bernadina >> DAHMUS and the house that my great grand father Eberhard WAECHTER lived in. >> Being they were all Catholics I visited the Catholic Church and the Convent. >> I spoke to a lady by the name of Rita Enniking. She was extremely helpful. >> Gave me lots of birth dates and names of the parents. The tour of the >> cemetery was less than exciting. Although it is well kept it was difficult to >> read the old stones. >> We met with cousin Tom Waecther who provided a guided tour of the town. He >> was most hospitable. Not knowing us from Adam, we thought he took us in as >> family. What a pleasure. Tom told us about the Nobbe cement batch plant on >> Rt 229 South of town and North of I74. The cement plant is family operated. >> The Sr. Mrs Nobbe has a complete reference library of the area. A complete >> set of Germans to America and individual records that she either copied or >> were given to her. She has books and books of "remembrance cards" from >> funerals and events. There is no one there to do research but the file are >> open to anyone who wants to look at them. What a resource. I hope they never >> get lost. >> We went to the courthouse in Brookville. The people there were friendly and >> helpful in showing us where to find information I asked for. They also would >> not do research. I was looking for records of citizenship. The writing was >> too poor for me to read. I went to the library in town. It has lots of >> microfilm, but only one reader. >> As it was we were needing to get to a son's house in TN we only spent one day >> and one night. >> All in all worth the trip, if for no other reason than to see what a beautiful >> area it is. For you who live there I say you are lucky to have it. >> Regards to all >> Phil Di Matteo >> Searching for: SELLMEYER, DAHMUS, WAECHTER, Maria Enneking, John Ortman, Mary >> A. Studor, Bernard Hooverkamp/Haverkamp, Caroline Cranzlor > > >

Seeking information for David and/or Zachariah MCGILL. David was married to a Mary, and they were in Franklin Co, IN by 1840, perhaps long before that, probably from KY, because Mary was born in KY. Zachary, son of David, was born Mar 27, 1844 in Indiana. He married Malinda Belle LEEJuly 22, 1866. Would like to hear from anyone who has ANY information on this line. Thank you, Cleo Wilcox <cleowilc@pacbell.net>

Hi You just go to http://www.familytreemaker.com This is the FTM FAQ page for the online library: http://www.familytreemaker.com/glcfaq.html There is a fee to access the library. $49 a year or you can get it by the month. You do not have to use the FTM program. Hope this helps. Norma At 11:25 AM 9/2/98 EDT, you wrote: > Patricia O'Connor wrote on 1 Sept 1998 >< Dr. Tom > Family Tree Maker has books on line some of them from Franklin Co. > > >Can you tell me/us how you access Family Tree Maker? > >Phil > > > My Eastern Kentucky Surnames http://www.angelfire.com/oh/myfamilygenes/ Adams/Baker/Bivens/Brashears/Cornett/Dotson/ Gentry/Lykins/Stamper/Werner

In a message dated 9/1/98 9:46:04 PM Central Daylight Time, HAPPYDI@aol.com writes: << Phil Di Matteo Searching for: SELLMEYER, DAHMUS, WAECHTER, Maria Enneking, John Ortman, Mary A. Studor, Bernard Hooverkamp/Haverkamp, Caroline Cranzlor >> I was looking thru the FTM Library and came across the following that I thought you might need. Franklin Co., IN Marriages Sellmeyer Catharine John Ortman Aprl 18 1865 Sellmeyer Frederick Caroline Cranzler Oct 8 1884 Sellmeyer Henry Mary Studer Nov 8 1870 Sellmeyer John H (Jr) Maria Enneking Nov 15 1866 Sellmeyer Mary M Frank J Baker Sept 9 1891 Sellmeyer Terresa Bernard Hooverkamp May 14 1884