The entire rootsweb was spammed a number of times in the last 24 hours. There is a spam detecter on all rootsweb mailing list accounts, however when it is hit so many times and a very short period of time, it cannot keep up. when a spamming e-mail hits our list it comes to me if it is caught by the computer, I received 11 messages that it caught and I think only 1 or 2 went to the whole list. So that means the percentages were very high. I have no control over the spamming by unauthorized people. The only other alternative is to have a closed list and I have to approve each and every e-mail before it goes to the list, and I will be honest I do not have the time to be a babysitter so that means we either have to put up with one or two slipping through the crack of the main computer in California when it is bombarded or we have to take the list completely down.... I have foundm oh to well, that in the past week, some of you pay a per e-mail charge, so I will leave it up to you... Randy Klemme Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator

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On November 11, let us all remember our fallen. ---------- > From: Betty Briggs <bettyb@flash.net> > To: OHIO-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Remembrance > Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 4:42 PM > > We, the genealogists, search through records, tramp through graveyards, > always seeking. We remember. This is in honor of some of those we > remember, both near and distant in time, especially my Ohio Valley > sailor. > If it angers you, please flame me personally. > > VETERANS DAY, 11 NOVEMBER 1998 > > Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 6:47 AM > Subject: Veterans: A reminder what this Nov 11th represents > > WHAT IS A VET? > > Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing > limb, a jagged scar, a certain look in the eye. > > Others may carry the evidence inside them: a pin holding a bone > together, a piece of shrapnel in the leg - or perhaps another > sort of inner steel: the soul's ally forged in the refinery of > adversity. > > Except in parades, however, the men and women who have kept > America safe wear no badge or emblem. > > You can't tell a vet just by looking. > > What is a vet? > > She - or he- is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia > > sweating two gallons a day making sure the armored personnel > carriers didn't run out of fuel. > > She - or he - is the nurse who fought against futility and went > to sleep sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang. > > He is the POW who went away one person and came back another - > or didn't come back AT ALL. > > He -or she- is the Quantico drill instructor who has never seen combat > > but has saved countless lives by turning slouchy, no-account > people into Marines, and taught them to watch each other's backs. > > He -or she- is the parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons > and medals with a prosthetic hand. > > He -or she- is the career quartermaster who watches the ribbons and > medals pass him by. > > He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns, > whose presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever > preserve the memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies > unrecognized with them on the battlefield or in the ocean's > sunless deep. > > He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - > palsied now and aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a Nazi > death camp and who wishes all day long that his wife were still > alive to hold him when the nightmares come. > > He -or she-is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being - a > person who offered some of his life's most vital years in the > service of his country, and who sacrificed his ambitions so > others would not have to sacrifice theirs. > > He -or she- is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, > and he is nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on > behalf of the finest, greatest nation ever known. > > So remember, each time you see someone who has served our > country, just lean over and say "Thank You". That's all most > people need, and in most cases it will mean more than any medals they > could have been awarded or were awarded. > > Two little words that mean a lot, "THANK YOU". > > Remember November 11th is "Veterans Day" > > "It is the soldier, not the reporter, > Who has given us freedom of the press. > It is the soldier, not the poet, > Who has given us freedom of speech. > It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, > Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. > It is the soldier, > Who salutes the flag, > Who serves beneath the flag, > And whose coffin is draped by the flag, > Who allows the protestor to burn the flag." > > Father Denis Edward O'Brien, USMC > > > > > ==== OHIO-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > OHIO VALLEY List Rules: No flames, on list roll calls, poems, jokes, ads, commercial or > other non genealogy posts. No virus warnings, hoax warnings or too good to be true > offers. If in doubt, send it to OHIO-VALLEY-L-request@rootsweb.com with RE: Listowner > in the subject line. A complete list of rules and explanations for them are found in > the welcome message you received when you joined.

everytime I mention something being added it is added to our Franklin County Genealogy Website.... http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6863 I don't mention it everytime cause I guess I take it for granted everyone has been and knows about the website....Sorry Randy Klemme Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator -----Original Message----- From: Carleene Hubbard <SHubbard@nbn.net> To: Randy Klemme <randyk@si-net.com> Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [INFRANKLI-L] new cemetery list >Randy it would be so helpful in your messages that whenever you mention >these websites, you list the URL address, so we can quickly bring it up. >Just a thought to make it easier for everyone. > >Such as where is the Civil War listing you mentioned the other day, and the >one below on new cemeteries? > >Thanks for a great (and occasionally funny) list! > >Carleene >-----Original Message----- >From: Randy Klemme <randyk@si-net.com> >To: INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com <INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:50 PM >Subject: [INFRANKLI-L] new cemetery list > > >>Thanks to my rock in the cemetery project, Ruth Schlemmer, the Old Johnson >>Fork Baptist Church Grave listing is now available on the website. I have >>much appreciation for the help Ruth has given me the last year. She has >>helped greatly with our cemetery project... >> >>Randy Klemme >>Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator >> > >

Thanks to my rock in the cemetery project, Ruth Schlemmer, the Old Johnson Fork Baptist Church Grave listing is now available on the website. I have much appreciation for the help Ruth has given me the last year. She has helped greatly with our cemetery project... Randy Klemme Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator

Fred, Pat and David wrote: > Hi! > > If you're looking at cemeteries, here's a puzzle that I've been trying to > solve for several years. > > My 4th gr-grandfather, Peter Stone (aka Stein), came to America in the > 1750's. He settled in Pendleton County, West Virginia (it was part of > Virginia at the time). He and members of his family eventually settled in > northern Dearborn County. > > A Daughters of the American Revolution Report for 1931-32 includes Peter > in a list of graves of Revolutionary War soldiers. The report states that > he is buried near St. Leon, Dearborn Co. I have tried to find out how his > grave was listed but have been unsuccessful. I have no other definitive > proof that Peter was a soldier in the Revolutionary War. > > A map that I have indicates that there is a cemetery in St. Leon. Sometime > when you have time could you check this out? > If you can't that's ok. > > Peter's granddaughter, Margaret, married Richard Nichols. Richard was an > earler settle in Franklin Co. He's listed in the 1820 census. > > Thank you for your cooperation. It is appreciated. > > nicholsf@lanset.com > Fred Nichols > 29 Payne River Circle > Sacramento, CA > (916) 428-6459 > > Have tried several times to E-mail the person who sent the above E-mail. I believe I have a connection to this line. Please E-mail meback re: info I have on this line. Kris heathen@indy.net > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I'm looking for information on John H. (possibly Harry or Harrison) SMITH, born in May 1864, and his family. I found them in the 1900 MI Census and it says that both he and his parents were born in Indiana. I have nothing else to go on, but hope he might connect with your SMITH's. He was a painter/paper hanger, as was my grandfather after him; so it may have been a family trade. I sure would appreciate hearing from you! Karon

In response the Mari's post. Hackleman was German Luthern. He was asked to leave the church because of a little too much tippling. I am wondering about the migration route too. I think they came up the Ohio River to Rush County and probably overland from there, ever traveling westward from the looks of it. Their descendants wound up in Missouri, one went to Kansas and back several times. Patricia Kantzer

Dear Mari, I too have ancestors who migrated from South Carolina to Franklin County, Indiana at that time. This occurred in the 1800 - 1825 time period as the result of a prediction of one of the Quaker leaders. In the general area of Union, Newberry, Laurens, Greenwood and Abbeville counties a large number of Quakers had settled in the second half seventeenth century. In approximately 1800, their minister, a Zachary Dick, started predicting that this area would be the scene of a great war in the lifetime of those children then living. This they took very seriously and virtually all of them migrated to west-central Ohio in 1801-1822. They also wanted to rear their children free from the influence of slavery. Others went to Pennsylvania, Indiana and some to Tennessee. (ref. "Quaker Families of South Carolina and Georgia", William F. Medlin, 1982, Ben Franklin Press) My gg grandmother's family, the PATTYs moved into western Ohio (Miami, Butler and Darke Counties) and Indiana (Franklin County) as part of this migration. Not all were Quakers. However, they had intermarried and migrated with the Quakers for many years. I believe my gg grandmother, Sarah Patty, was born in Franklin County in 1816 as d/o James Patty who appears on the f.c. 1820, Liberty Twp., Franklin Co. p. 214 and f.c. 1830, Liberty Twp, Union Co., p. 226. I do not believe these were Quakers as they do not appear in the Monthly Meeting records in that area. However, I think they did travel with the COOKs, a long standing Quaker family, to Indiana. Several Cook families settled in that immediate area. Don Jones Mari Nielsen wrote: > > Hi, fellow list members! > > I just read Pat Kantzer's post to the list today about her Franklin Co. > Webb and Hackleman ancestors who were born in Abbeville, SC and Scott > Co., KY, respectively. Since I too have ancestors who were born in SC > (I think Abbeville) and moved to Scott Co., KY, and then came to > Franklin Co., IN in the very early 1800s it got me to thinking about the > migratory route they took....

Hi, fellow list members! I just read Pat Kantzer's post to the list today about her Franklin Co. Webb and Hackleman ancestors who were born in Abbeville, SC and Scott Co., KY, respectively. Since I too have ancestors who were born in SC (I think Abbeville) and moved to Scott Co., KY, and then came to Franklin Co., IN in the very early 1800s it got me to thinking about the migratory route they took. A researcher asked me, after hearing about the route they took, if they were Quakers. I think there is a good chance my family was or at least had a Quaker background. Anyway, are there others who are researching ancestors in Franklin Co. whose ancestors came to Franklin Co. early in the 1800s from either or both of these places? If so maybe we could compare notes. My ancestor, Jeremiah WILLIAMS, was in SC, some say Abbeville, from 1780 at least to 1799. His children were Samuel b. 1780, Elizabeth, George, William, Thomas, James, John b. 1796, and Milburn b. 1799. Sometime after Milburn's birth the family left SC. I found a Jeremiah Williams in Scott Co., KY in an 1800 tax list. I haven't proven that is is my Jeremiah, though. I believe he and his family arrived in Franklin Co., IN by about 1807-08. Jeremiah died in 1812 in Franklin Co. His widow, Mary Ann, moved (or there was a boundary change) to Fayette Co. by about 1817-1819. Several of the children of Jeremiah and Mary Ann married in Fayette Co. Mary Ann married Jacob Hackleman in Fayette Co. in 1824, and she died in Rush Co. in 1825. I would love to hear from anyone whose Franklin Co. ancestors' migrations paralleled those of my Williams family. Mari Nielsen

Jesse Webb, bn 17 Oct 1785 Abbeville Dist, SC died 26 Sep 1875 Frankton, Madison Co IN, married 11 Mar 1813 Franklin Co IN to Fanny Hackleman, bn 12 May 1793 Georgetown, Scott Co KY died 24 Mar 1876 Frankton, Madison Co IN Their children all believed to have been born in Fayette Co IN were: 1. Absalom bn 8 Feb 1814, died ? married to Hulda Peavey/Peavy 2. Mary bn 4 May 1815, married to Samuel Pava 3. Catherine bn 31 Mar 1817 died 15 Apr 1845, married to Richard Dernam 4. Elizabeth bn 4 Jul 1819 died 8 Jan 1833 5. Minor bn 29 Jun 1821 6. Edward bn 1 Nov 1823 7. Alford bn 25 Apr 1826 died 22 Jun 1827 Fayette Co IN 8. Nancy bn 25 May 1828 died 1 Apr 1830 Fayette Co IN 9. Infant twins Is this your family? Does anyone know for sure if he was Jesse Jr. and did he have a sister by the name of Catherine? A Catherine Webb married Fanny's brother Michael Hackleman. Patricia Kantzer mkdoc@nemr.net

The Bible Records and Pension Forums are both now on the website. Enjoy and Post-away... Randy Klemme Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator

Looking for information on Robert HART m. Martha Ann CRARY on 1-11-1846 in Franklin Co. Known children were Will b. about 1847 and Mary (M. Dr. Everett MAVITY), b. about 1849. Will exchange information. Wanda (Monterey, TN)http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1162 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Me too! Carleene -----Original Message----- From: Delta3xs@aol.com <Delta3xs@aol.com> To: INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com <INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 6:34 PM Subject: [INFRANKLI-L] rasslin >Randy. > >I thought your mail was funny. I feel sorry for people with no sense of humor. > >Dinah > > >==== INFRANKLI Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE to the list send e-mail to: >INFRANKLI-L-request@rootsweb.com >Put only the word "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message. > >Any special requests e-mail: randyk@si-net.com >

If you are interested in how the USA was settled...check out this link http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/Animation/us.gif It's an animated USA map....really cool... Randy Klemme Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator

Randy. I thought your mail was funny. I feel sorry for people with no sense of humor. Dinah

I posted this cause I have not seen any genealogy in almost a week and a half on here.....thought we needed a lighter note since I was involved....eveidentally dmd@access-one.com didn't think it was funny....sorry Randy Now back to genealogy.....soon there will be two more forums set up on the website....one will be for bible records and also military pensions. That makes almost a full set of forums that we can post to including, query, wills, obits and biographies. The two new ones should be up shortly once approved by rootsweb Randy Klemme Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator -----Original Message----- From: dmd <dmd@access-one.com> To: Randy Klemme <randyk@si-net.com> Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [INFRANKLI-L] Pro Wrestling Event >What in the world does this have to do with genealogy? > >---------- >> From: Randy Klemme <randyk@si-net.com> >> To: INFRANKLI-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [INFRANKLI-L] Pro Wrestling Event >> Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 7:39 AM >> >> Connersville Post #1 >> Son's of the American Legion >> Presents >> Wild Championship Wrestling Outlaws >> Pro Wrestling >> Live Saturday, December 5th at the Connersville High School Gym >> >> 5 Exciting Matches including the Main Event >> >> WIFE Radio's Randy "Big R" Klemme >> and >> Indiana Kidd, Jr >> >> VS >> >> "Dangerous Bull" Don Basher >> and >> ????? >> >> >> Tickets are $7 Ringside and $5 General Admission in advance >> and are available now at : >> Billy Bobs >> The Mecca >> WIFE Radio >> The American Legion >> or from any SAL member >> >> All proceeds go to help support the many year long worthwhile >> projects of Connersville Post #1 Son's of the American Legion >> >> For ticket information call Randy Klemme at WIFE Radio at 825-8561 >> >> >> >> >> ==== INFRANKLI Mailing List ==== >> To UNSUBSCRIBE to the list send e-mail to: >> INFRANKLI-L-request@rootsweb.com >> Put only the word "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the message. >> >> Any special requests e-mail: randyk@si-net.com >

The last message was for my pro wrestling debut.....as if my life isn't already full enough.....I will turn pro wrestler next month... Sorry if the last message offended anyone....thought everyone needed a good laugh today... Randy Klemme Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator

Connersville Post #1 Son's of the American Legion Presents Wild Championship Wrestling Outlaws Pro Wrestling Live Saturday, December 5th at the Connersville High School Gym 5 Exciting Matches including the Main Event WIFE Radio's Randy "Big R" Klemme and Indiana Kidd, Jr VS "Dangerous Bull" Don Basher and ????? Tickets are $7 Ringside and $5 General Admission in advance and are available now at : Billy Bobs The Mecca WIFE Radio The American Legion or from any SAL member All proceeds go to help support the many year long worthwhile projects of Connersville Post #1 Son's of the American Legion For ticket information call Randy Klemme at WIFE Radio at 825-8561

Evidentally everyone must be busy Christmas shopping because this list has been very quiet. I did have a comment today on the Civil War Muster rolls. We have found the page will not print due to it's color scheme. I will contact the person that put the page together to see if the colors can be changed in someway so they will print. Hope everybody is well....I have been busy too.....so don't feel bad!!!! Randy Klemme Franklin County Genealogy Coordinator