This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: utz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3h.2ADE/1980.1.1 Message Board Post: Jack, Thanks for the information. I will keep it for further use. I have no idea where Valentine came from, who his parents were or anything else, before he married Elmira Greer. Who knows.............a connection maybe found in the future. Thanks again, Cathy