Hi I have been trying to get a copy of my gggradnfathers birth cert. There was fire where those records were kept. They start at 1880 now. I need a 1843 birth cert and it just isn't there. I don't know where else to look for that information, if you get an answer on this, please let me know, or if anyone else out there knows, my email is dayshne@aol.com I'd appreciate any help. I'm researching the Ivins line. Thanks Sara Tuttle