Thanks for the response Sally. I may have to go to NARA for some information. I hate to do that since I have no idea if these men are same ones listed as having joined these regiments. I don't even know for sure if they were in the Civil War. But it appears that their mother was getting a pension, so maybe. Virginia > [Original Message] > From: Sally K. <swansall@123.net> > To: <INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/4/04 3:40:28 PM > Subject: [INELKHAR] Re: INELKHAR-D Digest V04 #16 > > Virginia, > > Clark is a common name. You might want to look up regimental histories > that may be available on the Internet. This will give you a general > geography for many of the men who enlisted. > > If that geography seems reasonable based on what you know about the men > in general, you may wish to order the civil war pension files on these > men, if they exist (may not for deserters). Such files generally provide > information about the lives of the soldier which will allow you to > determine where they were from and who their immediate family was. > > See www.nara.gov (National Archives) for more information. The price can > be a little prohibitive, but these files can solve a number of mysteries > as well. > > Otherwise, you might want to go after siblings or other relatives. If > they bought "mug book" sections for themselves, those narratives might > give clues as to what happened to these two men. > > Good luck, > > sk > > > INELKHAR-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Subject: > > > > INELKHAR-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 16 > > > > Today's Topics: > > #1 [INELKHAR] Civil War Regiments ["Virginia Leighty" <vleighty@earth] > > > > Administrivia: > > To unsubscribe from INELKHAR-D, send a message to > > > > INELKHAR-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > > > unsubscribe > > > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [INELKHAR] Civil War Regiments > > Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 08:00:28 -0800 > > From: "Virginia Leighty" <vleighty@earthlink.net> > > To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Is anyone on this list a Civil War Buff? I need some advice please. > > > > There are two brothers, ELLIS & JOHN CLARK. Both were in Elkhart. They seem > > to have disappeared after 1860, so I think they may have volunteered for > > the war. I have some Regiment information as follows: > > > > 9th Infantry Regiment of Indiana. There is an Ellis Clark who enlisted on 5 > > Sep 1861 as a private. In 1862 he deserted the regiment on Oct 10 in > > Louisville Kentucky. > > > > 2nd Cavalry Regiment of Indiana. A John Clark enlisted 19 Nov 1861 as a > > private. He died on 15 Dec 1862 of wounds received in battle. This was also > > in Louisville, Kentucky. > > > > My problem is how to connect this information with my Ellis and John? How > > can I determine if these are the same men? Any suggestions? > > > > Virginia

Is anyone on this list a Civil War Buff? I need some advice please. There are two brothers, ELLIS & JOHN CLARK. Both were in Elkhart. They seem to have disappeared after 1860, so I think they may have volunteered for the war. I have some Regiment information as follows: 9th Infantry Regiment of Indiana. There is an Ellis Clark who enlisted on 5 Sep 1861 as a private. In 1862 he deserted the regiment on Oct 10 in Louisville Kentucky. 2nd Cavalry Regiment of Indiana. A John Clark enlisted 19 Nov 1861 as a private. He died on 15 Dec 1862 of wounds received in battle. This was also in Louisville, Kentucky. My problem is how to connect this information with my Ellis and John? How can I determine if these are the same men? Any suggestions? Virginia

For the past 10 years or so I have been searching for the parentage and ancestors of Washington ADAMS born in Ohio in 1811. We find him in the 1840 and 1850 census in Indiana. In the history of Lagrange County Indiana he is found as one of the early settlers even at that young age. In the 1850 census he is shown with his wife Laura (Hill) ADAMS and their three children: Mary J. Adams, Moses Adams and Martha Adams. Laura HILL was the daughter of Dr. Moses HILL. She was born in NY. In 1832 Washington ADAMS married Laura HILL in Lagrange county, IN. In the 1830 census for Elkhart Indiana there is a John ADAMS shown with his family. One was a male between the ages of 15-20. This would match my Washington ADAMS age group. Under the John ADAMS listing is the name Asa ADAMS. Or at least it looks like "Asa". on the next page of that census is shown the Dr. Moses J HILL family. I have checked out two Washington Adams' and ruled them out. One was in Warren County, Ohio and the other was in Muskingkum County, Ohio. Both of these died in those counties. My Washington Adams died in Mt Carroll, IL in 1863. I feel that the John Adams who was shown in the 1830 census in Elkhart County, IN is the most promising parentage of my Washington, but I cannot find where he came from. He was between the age of 50-60 in 1830 and does not appear in the 1840 census - most likely passed on. Is there anyone out there tracing that John Adams family or the Asa Adams family???

Hi! Does anyone have any information on a Jacob HOLDEMAN b. 5 /11/1788 d. 12/14/1867. I found him in the Elkhart Co. Cemeteries book vol. 1 page 359 and am trying to connect him to my wife's Holderman family in Elkhart Co., IN. I am trying to locate a Jacob HOLDERMAN (or Holdeman, Haldeman, Halderman, even Hulderman) who arrived in Harrison Twp. in 1848 from Holmes Co., Ohio, having arrived in Holmes Co., Ohio from PA in 1812. Jacob arrived in Indiana in the company of his son, John and Anna Seese Holderman (and their nine children). An educated guess is that my wife's Jacob Holderman was born about 1776-1783, based on the Ohio Census of 1820. Jacob does not show up in the Harrison Twp. Census in 1850, two years after his arrival in 1848. His son, John appears as HULDERMAN with his wife and children, but no Jacob. It appears that Jacob might have died between 1848 and 1850. I have checked the Elkhart Co. Cemetery, vols.1-4, Rice Cem. vols.1-2, Violett Cem. book, Oakridge book, and Grace Lawn book, but I can't find anything closer than Jacob HOLDEMAN b. 5 /11/1788 d. 12/14/1867. Is it possible that my wife's Jacob Holderman might have been buried in a family cemetery which might not have been transcribed? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Joseph R. Murnane 4219 Jersey Rd. Williamson, NY 14589 315-589-6631 JMurnane77@aol.com

Please ignore/delete all messages from John@rootsweb.com. He is a spammer and NOT a Rootsweb member, and our admin has been notified. If this problem persists, I will stop the Elkhart message board gateway from posting to this list. Thanks, Tom Stevens Listowner, INELKHAR -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:41 PM To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Help This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Vh.2ADI/1956 Message Board Post: This site needs traffic in order to stay up. Please try it. It has loads of information on any topic you could think of and its all free.

Looking for the following people and their ancestry James Benjamin Halsey Maggie Mae Ramey Joseph Marion Halsey Martha Gevedon David Halsey Amanda Jane Scott Amos Halsey Elizabeth Scott Howell William Halsey Rachel Cobb Frances "Fannie" Murphy Albert Raney (Ramey) Joseph Gevedon Martha Carter John Murphy Sarah (Sally) Rose David Bown Rose Sarah Nickell Hubert Merl Stump Freddena Eversole Jonathan J Stump Christina Yonker Mary Nusbaum Daniel A. Stump Solome Sarah Smith Abraham Stump Mary Meekly Casper Stump Thank you, James t4gif@yahoo.com

I am looking to extend THIS John Quincy Adamas line back.... 1194-- BELLE LOGAN (Daughter. of No. 1193) married Feb. 14th, 1899 at Independence, Kan., JOHN QUINCY ADAMS, born Mar. 15th, 1874, near Ottawa, Kan., (Son of JOHN and MARY C. (Turner) ADAMS. John is a market gardener and apiarist. Both are members of the Seventh Day Adventist Church. Address (as of 1938); Alberta Beach, Alberta, Canada. Issue: 1-- NETTIE MAY ADAMS , b. 2-13-1900, Independence, Kan. 2-- ARCHIBALD DAVID ADAMS , b. 7-22-1909, Holborn, Alta. 3-- FRANCES Alberta ADAMS , b. 10-8-1912. 4-- WINNIFRED IRENE ADAMS , b. 12-13-1913. Perry Adams wrote: > I am looking to connect my Washington ADAMS with his proper parents. He > was born in 1811 in the state of Ohio. In the 1830 census for Elkhart > IN there is a John ADAMS family with a male between the ages of 15 and > 20. This would match the age of my Washington ADAMS. A line below is > shown the Asa ADAMS family who was very likely related to the John ADAMS > family. On the following page of that 1830 census is shown the Moses > HILL family. Dr. Moses Hill's daughter Laura HILL married Washington > ADAMS in 1832. > > It is most likely that John ADAMS mentioned above is the father of my > Washington ADAMS, I am interested in tracking him. Is there anyone out > there tracking that branch of the ADAMS family? Thank you for your help. > Perry Adams > San Carlos, California USA > >

I am looking to connect my Washington ADAMS with his proper parents. He was born in 1811 in the state of Ohio. In the 1830 census for Elkhart IN there is a John ADAMS family with a male between the ages of 15 and 20. This would match the age of my Washington ADAMS. A line below is shown the Asa ADAMS family who was very likely related to the John ADAMS family. On the following page of that 1830 census is shown the Moses HILL family. Dr. Moses Hill's daughter Laura HILL married Washington ADAMS in 1832. It is most likely that John ADAMS mentioned above is the father of my Washington ADAMS, I am interested in tracking him. Is there anyone out there tracking that branch of the ADAMS family? Thank you for your help. Perry Adams San Carlos, California USA

Looking for info. on Joseph Myers (ca.1790-185?), born Pa., Montgomery Co.,Va. in 1820 Census; Preble Co., Ohio, in 1830 Census, to Goshen about 1840. In 1850 Census living with daughter and son-in-law, Azariah and Anna Julian in Goshen. Father of 8 (?) children, including Jonas and David of Elkhart, John W. Myers in Ill., Anna in Goshen, plus "several" older daughters and an older son. Married to "Mary C.",who must have died prior to 1850. Any info.on these individuals would be greatly appreciated.

New to this list. If someone has access to the Elkart County v/r's, I would like a lookup. Marriage (there are two entries for this marriage) Bills, Lucy married William A. Hitehcock, 12 Apr 1879, in Elkhart County... book 5. original source page 265. William A. Hitchcock, married Lucy Bills, 12 Apr 1879 in Elkart County, book 5, original source page 263. I would like to know the town, ages of the couple, place of birth of each, and their parents names. If there is anything else in the record, that would be appreciated. TIA

I am looking for any information on the family of Josiah DELPH who married Lucinda SPRY and settle in Goshen, Elkhart, Indiana to raise his family. The only child that I have isEdward Franklin ?Delph, born 1857 in Goshen. Any help would be appreciated. Barbara L.

$1 per page (for copies). You can look and take notes at no charge. Thanks, Pam -----Original Message----- From: Pam Warren [mailto:pwarren@warrenweb.info] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 8:36 PM To: 'INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [INELKHAR] CRIMP files You can also call the Elkhart county archives at Elkhart and make arrangements to look at the documents in the archives. They charge $1 per page. You will need the box number and the main names on the file for them to pull the records. This is by appointment. We saw all our files and were able to get copies. Thanks, Pam Pamela A. Warren www.warrenweb.info -----Original Message----- From: Sally K. [mailto:swansall@123.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:24 PM To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [INELKHAR] CRIMP files One way to access the CRIMP records is to borrow the microfilm via your local Family History Center at the LDS church. You'll need the complete information from the Elkhart County genweb listing, including the 7-digit LDS reel number, which you can find using the CRIMP/LDS link on the CRIMP page. It costs about $3.50 per reel. When the film comes in, you'll have about a month to look at it, and you can renew if you wish. If you're in Elkhart, you could contact the Elkhart County Genealogy Society, as they have a set of the Elkhart County films at their library in the basement of the First Presbyterian Church on Beardsley. Also, the Indiana State Library in Indianapolis has these films. Happy hunting, Sally K.

You can also call the Elkhart county archives at Elkhart and make arrangements to look at the documents in the archives. They charge $1 per page. You will need the box number and the main names on the file for them to pull the records. This is by appointment. We saw all our files and were able to get copies. Thanks, Pam Pamela A. Warren www.warrenweb.info -----Original Message----- From: Sally K. [mailto:swansall@123.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:24 PM To: INELKHAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [INELKHAR] CRIMP files One way to access the CRIMP records is to borrow the microfilm via your local Family History Center at the LDS church. You'll need the complete information from the Elkhart County genweb listing, including the 7-digit LDS reel number, which you can find using the CRIMP/LDS link on the CRIMP page. It costs about $3.50 per reel. When the film comes in, you'll have about a month to look at it, and you can renew if you wish. If you're in Elkhart, you could contact the Elkhart County Genealogy Society, as they have a set of the Elkhart County films at their library in the basement of the First Presbyterian Church on Beardsley. Also, the Indiana State Library in Indianapolis has these films. Happy hunting, Sally K.

One way to access the CRIMP records is to borrow the microfilm via your local Family History Center at the LDS church. You'll need the complete information from the Elkhart County genweb listing, including the 7-digit LDS reel number, which you can find using the CRIMP/LDS link on the CRIMP page. It costs about $3.50 per reel. When the film comes in, you'll have about a month to look at it, and you can renew if you wish. If you're in Elkhart, you could contact the Elkhart County Genealogy Society, as they have a set of the Elkhart County films at their library in the basement of the First Presbyterian Church on Beardsley. Also, the Indiana State Library in Indianapolis has these films. Happy hunting, Sally K.

In the 1830 Elkhart census is shown the Asa ADAMS family6 consisting of one male child under age 5, one male between ages 20-30 and one female between age 20-30. On the line directly above Asa ADAMS is the John ADAMS family. I suspect that Asa ADAMS is the son of John ADAMS. In the 1840 census for Madison County Indiana is shown the Asa ADAMS family. Does anyone have information on this Asa ADAMS family or the John ADAMS family? Thank you for your help. Perry Adams

I found the following on the CRIMP index on the Elkhart Co USGENWEB page. How do I go about obtaining the official documents? 98 Lowry, Mamie & Clarence 7 D-50 Vs. Thompson, William C. & others Thank you. Donna

Hello All, My mom came from a town in Elkhart named Bristol. My Great great grandfather was Peter BARDO, he came to Bristol in about 1860. His wife was Rebecca GORTNER. They had nine children the ones I know are - William, John, Anna C., and Guy (my ggrandfather) These children were all born in Bristol. Guy married Sadie STRAWSER, They had four children Edith, Elsie, May, and Llyod ( my grandfather). Sadie was born in Bristol, her father was Johnathon STRAWSER, he moved his parents wife and other children to Bristol in about 1860. I don't think the two families had traveled to together or not. SURNAMES in Elkhart: Bardo, Gortner, Strawser, Hathaway --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster.

Hi! Would someone who has Vol. 4 of the Elkhart Co. Cemeteries, please check for FLOYD BEALS d. 1941 and his wife Florence Beals? I have the cemetery information on Floyd Beals' first wife, Della Moyer Beals (d. 1918 in childbirth with unnamed infant), but would be interested in other Beals who might be in Vol. 4. I would greatly appreciate any help. Thanks! Joe Joseph R. Murnane 4219 Jersey Rd. Williamson, NY 14589 315-589-6631 JMurnane77@aol.com

Hello List, I was hoping someone could tell me what type of business "Benton and Ramsby" at 110 North Main Street, Goshen, Indiana were in during the late 1940's and early 1950's. I am particularly interested in Ramsby's first name. Hoping to fit that person into our tree. Any tips as to where I might look for this info would be appreciated as well. Thank you, Sincerely, Brigitte Hostetter

Hi Alfred: I have not been able to really pin down Dr. Moses J. Hill's family. There seems to be several HILL families in that NY area at that time who might be his parents. I do know that he came from an educated family, so the fact that your family were teachers and engineers might be a connection. Moses J Hill was a frontier Doctor in the 1830s in Lagrange county Indiana. On the census he showed his birth place as NY and his wife birth in CT. It looks like his wife's name was Betsey. We think that Moses' middle name was Jones. So it is possible his mother or grandmother may have had the maiden name of Jones. He gave one of his sons the middle name of Newell, so that is another possibility for a family name. I have a date of Mose's birth as 30 Jan 1783 in stephentown, NY. The names of his children are: Moses Newell Hill born 24 Jul 1811 NY Slocum Hill about 1812 Marvin Jones Hill 27 Apr 1813 Laura Hill born 28 May 1815 - (Laura married Washington Adams in 1832 in Lagrange County IN.) Hiram H. Hill born 17 Apr 1819 Eliza Hill born 24 Apr 1824. All children were born in NY. I hope that we can find some other researchers who are looking at some of these other children who may help in connecting Moses Jones Hill to his proper parents and ancestors. Perry Adams San Carlos, California Alfred Collins wrote: >Mr. Adams, I cannot give you the specific info you are seeking however >I to am searching for info on Hill families in the Genesee Cty. area. >My gg grandmother Mary Hill b 1796, she said in Ontario Cty, married >(about 1818) my gg grandfather Alfred Collins b 1795. They lived in >the Towns of Caledonia and York near the village of Fowlerville. >Because >of county boundary changes over the years they lived in Ontario, Genesee >and Livingston counties without changing their place of residence in >what is now the town of York. I have not been able to find who the >ancestors or siblings were in Marys family. Some of her Hill relatives >lived in the same general area. There were one or more male Hills who >were civil engineers who laid out roads and boundaries in York and >Caledonia and one or more females who were schoolteachers. Since seeing >your query I have been wondering if your Moses Hill might be related to >my Mary Hill? Do you know the names of Moses ancestors or Siblings? >Alfed Collins > > > > > >