Hello Sharon, Your story touched me so I did some digging myself on your behalf. (This is all from Ancestry.com, if you haven't been there?) Time frame made me think of the civil war, so searched for Joseph GILL and 52 came back. Three from Indiana, no personal data on them but you should be able to find ages on these men somewhere on the net, per other records besides ancestry. this site is a civil war rosters site, may be of help? http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/3680/cw/cw.html Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank - Discharge Notes Allegiance Gill Joseph F 25 Indiana Infantry. Private Private Union Gill Joseph H. H 24 Indiana Infantry. Corporal Sergeant Union Gill Joseph P. I 7 Indiana Infantry. Captain Captain Union These Joseph GILL's are from early VA census: Maybe an avenue to search? GILL, JOSEPH JR. State: VA Year: 1783 County: Chesterfield County Record Type: Tax list Township: No Township Listed Page: 050 Database: VA Early Census Index GILL, JOSEPH SR. State: VA Year: 1783 County: Chesterfield County Record Type: Tax list Township: No Township Listed Page: 050 Database: VA Early Census Index GILL, JOSEPH SEN. State: VA Year: 1782 County: Halifax County Record Type: Continental Census Township: 03 04 Page: 24 Database: VA Early Census Index GILL, JOSEPH JUN. State: VA Year: 1782 County: Halifax County Record Type: Continental Census Township: 06 06 Page: 24 Database: VA Early Census Index Now, in a census for 1830 Virginia, Chesterfield, unknown townships. I found these GILL men were all next door to each other, you may find some leads here as well. William, Henry, and Joseph, are the first names of these GILL men. On another page these GILL men were found in same census same county; Jordan, Joseph, John, Benjamin, and either Tony or Teny or it could be, Jony or Jeny. Found this marriage: Indiana Posey County Gill Jones, Joseph Sarah Spouse: Gill, Joseph Jones, SarahCounty: Posey Name: Mary Kivett Spouse: Joseph Gill Marriage Date: 19 Jul 1846 Book: C- 3 Original Source Page: 11 Marriage Date: 26 Mar 1828 These marriage dates show prior to Cruthers so maybe a check into here may be warranted? I hope I have not duplicated all your searches here, I hope to at least provide a nibble. lol Good luck with your search!! Lana