In a message dated 10/13/02 4:20:01 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << No index is absolutely complete! I have found this over and over again searching through records. To be sure you must check the records them selves. Only you know your family!!! All of us who do look up's do our best to help others, but we are not infallible, we miss things, connections, family, etc you might have found. >> I do know the pitfalls of research and I only seeked help from those that said they could and would help me. They were sure that I had missed something. Well I did and that is what I learned 5 months ago that my ancestor needs someone to put his name in for Patriot status and that is to send for the records themselves. Which at the new cost of the national archives infomation I just don't have the money to do that. It is cost prohibitive for me to go to DC as I live in Arizona and the closest I get to DC is Indiana. I drove in Baltimore to DunDok, up the coast to Call of the Wild, Maine and several other large cities delivering RV's and conversion vans and at 71 I do not desire to drive in congested traffic zones. I am still working on getting the records but it will take some time yet. It will be a toss up which is first my toes or the records. <G> Beej