I agree it's a great site and hard to get into. I finally found I could log in after midnight Sat. and also had success early Sunday morning at around 10AM. Found arrival records for my grandmother, my great grandmother and two of my great uncles. I sure wish someone or some organization would digitize all the other ship's passenger lists. I still have blanks on arrival and naturalization on my grandfather John Robert Konrad. Bob Konrad, Peachtree City, GA On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:20:30 EDT Hedgehog2@aol.com writes: > For those of you who asked about the site and others who may be > interested > here is what I know about it. It is very difficult to get into at > the > present. I think it will just take time for them to get the kinks > out and > for all of the rush to try the site to get over with. I remember > similar > problems getting on when the LDS Family Search site opened. I have > an e-mail > in to the site but still no answer from them. > > Last night after days of trying at all hours I finally did get into > the site > at 2 a.m. and the first ancestor I found included all sorts of > information. > After that I had problems and constantly got the message--no ship's > manifest > available or something similar. I cannot get on at all today. I > continue to > get a message saying: Thank you for your interest but we have an > extraordinary number of visitors and must limit access. Please try > later. > > The address to try is http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/ You may > get the > busy message immediately or you may get an opening page but when > clicking on > the word continue still receive the busy message. If you get > through you > should know it. You do not have to become a member just give your > name and > e-mail I think is all and set up a log-on name and password. Then > you do a > search for your ancestor. > > Dick, I discovered after working with the site for a while that all > ships do > not seem to have an original manifest, but some do. Maybe they are > still > working on adding them. After searching and finding your ancestor > then > seeing the basic info on him or her you can click on ship manifest > on the > left of the screen and get a typed list of all on the ship. When > that site > opens or somewhere along the way, there may be a notation that is > small but > says, view original ship manifest. That is the key to getting more > info. > You will be able to open a photograph of the manifest page. > Depending on the > year, the info varies but may include all sorts of things. Mine > listed who > she was visiting and the address and relationship, height, hair and > eye color > and birthplace. > > Good luck to all. I will be away for the next few days. Keep trying > or put > the address in your favorites and try in a week or so. The site > just opened > the 16th or 17th of this month. > > Susie > > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

Thanks, Susie, I have been on the site since Friday and while I have not found the person I looking for, I have learned a few things. Mostly I have learned there are many misspellings and typos that will prevent you from finding someone. I have searched 16 variations of Carnivale, alone! On the Italian list, they say German names are murdered too. You gave me a good idea abt looking at the whole manifest. My father-in-law came at the end of 1901; no luck with him so far. But there is a family who came in Jan of 1901 from the same place! I skipped them because he was not supposed to have come with family of his own surname but his Mother's relatives. (three children, under 14 came and never saw their parents again!) Now I want to see who this family came to see and where they were headed. Thanks for reminding me. Carleen

For those of you who asked about the site and others who may be interested here is what I know about it. It is very difficult to get into at the present. I think it will just take time for them to get the kinks out and for all of the rush to try the site to get over with. I remember similar problems getting on when the LDS Family Search site opened. I have an e-mail in to the site but still no answer from them. Last night after days of trying at all hours I finally did get into the site at 2 a.m. and the first ancestor I found included all sorts of information. After that I had problems and constantly got the message--no ship's manifest available or something similar. I cannot get on at all today. I continue to get a message saying: Thank you for your interest but we have an extraordinary number of visitors and must limit access. Please try later. The address to try is http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/ You may get the busy message immediately or you may get an opening page but when clicking on the word continue still receive the busy message. If you get through you should know it. You do not have to become a member just give your name and e-mail I think is all and set up a log-on name and password. Then you do a search for your ancestor. Dick, I discovered after working with the site for a while that all ships do not seem to have an original manifest, but some do. Maybe they are still working on adding them. After searching and finding your ancestor then seeing the basic info on him or her you can click on ship manifest on the left of the screen and get a typed list of all on the ship. When that site opens or somewhere along the way, there may be a notation that is small but says, view original ship manifest. That is the key to getting more info. You will be able to open a photograph of the manifest page. Depending on the year, the info varies but may include all sorts of things. Mine listed who she was visiting and the address and relationship, height, hair and eye color and birthplace. Good luck to all. I will be away for the next few days. Keep trying or put the address in your favorites and try in a week or so. The site just opened the 16th or 17th of this month. Susie

Please, if there is anyone out there that can do a 1910 census in Florance County IN. I have index of three family memebers which would show who their children were at the time that I dont have. I am home bound and can not travel to a libray to do a look up and it would mean so much. Thank you for your time. HOLMAN,CORA,22,F,W,IN,FOUNTAIN,3-WD ATTICA,349,2,89, HOLMAN,LEANDER,44,M,W,IN,FOUNTAIN,3-WD ATTICA,349,2,89, HOLMAN,LOTTIE,20,F,W,IN,FOUNTAIN,2-WD ATTICA,349,2,75,

Hi, LOL, ya, they butchered my Grandmother. How hard is Robb, and Addison, turns out Atison a lot of the time. Take Care, Lora

I am so excited. I finally got on to check records at the new site. It has been busy all week. Just wanted to encourage all to keep trying. Covers records of those who came through Ellis Island between 1892-1924. Be sure after doing a search and finding info on an ancestor to go to the original ship manifest. Much more info is listed there--color of eyes, hair, height, birthplace and address or person going to visit or stay with in U.S. Have to rush back while I have the site open. Address is: http://www.ellisislandrecords.org

I would like to know if the LDS has a death index for Indiana. Thanks in advance.

The first thing you do is, list his name ?? In a message dated 4/22/01 9:12:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time, chipper1@cox-internet.com writes: > I'm at a standstill. My ggggrandfather was born in Indiana about 1823. I > know when he got married and about his family from 1846 to 1872, then I lose > him again. I can't figure out when or where he died. I also can't figure > out who his parents were or what town he was born in. Since census records > before 1850 don't list children, I don't know how to look for him. I >

Who is He? Who are the other family members that were around at that time? Did they move to a different county/state? Have a Great Week! Warm Regards, Dennis W. Stein dstein@chesapeake.net Visit The Genealogy Home of Dennis and Lisa Stein at: http://www.chesapeake.net/~dstein/Index.htm Listing the following SURNAMES: ABBOTT, BEAN, BYERLY, COMBS, CURTIS, DANIELS, DELILAH, DEMENT, DUNN, EFFINGER, ELLIS, FREEMAN, GILLARD, GOULD, HAMMOND, HICKS, HOLLENBECK, LORD, LUX, MCMACPEAK, MERIDAY, NORRIS, PILKERTON, REDMAN, STEIN, STROUD, WALLACE, and more. EFFINGER and LUX surname list manager http://lists.rootsweb.com/ http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/e/effinger.html http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/l/lux.html Susan Jones wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Susan Jones <chipper1@cox-internet.com> To: INDIANA-L@rootsweb.com <INDIANA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, April 22, 2001 10:12 PM Subject: [INDIANA] What do I do next? >Hello Indiana researchers, > >I'm at a standstill. My ggggrandfather was born in Indiana about 1823. I >know when he got married and about his family from 1846 to 1872, then I lose >him again. I can't figure out when or where he died. I also can't figure >out who his parents were or what town he was born in. Since census records >before 1850 don't list children, I don't know how to look for him. I >believe he was at home with his parents prior to 1846 when he got married. >Could someone direct me from here? > >Many thanks, >Susan > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

I didn't mention who I was looking for in my previous message. He is Nelson Graham. I also found out that there is a Nelson Graham listed in an Indiana death record book 1882 - 1920. They list his middle initial as R. Does anyone have that book? Would they please lookup for the Nelson Graham listed? This may or may not be the one I'm looking for. Any thanks is greatly appreciated! Susan

Howdy! Here's the best I could come up with: http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp/pcrpselector.html Some counties may or may not have readings of tombstones online. One goal of the Indiana Dept. of Natural Resources is to have a location list of all Indiana cemeteries. http://www.savinggraves.com/usa/in/letter.htm I don't know if their info will be online. -Chris At 07:05 PM 4/22/01 -0400, you wrote: >Chris are Indiana Cemeteries online somewhere??? >thanks >darlene > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Susan, You might see if the county that he was born in has an index of wills, also check surrounding counties. Perhaps when his parents died, they left a will and you could check under the same surnames. This might work if you're lucky, especially if the name is not too common. Good Luck! -Cindy ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

My husband's KESNER line was in Verimillion Co., IN for a short space of time. About 1845-1855 on their way west from West Virginia to Indiana, Illinois, Iowa and Missouri, Kansas and Nebraska. Happy to share! 1 Benjamin Kesner b: Bef. Jun 1815 in , , ,Virginia d: Mar 1880 in , , Bourbon, Kansas .. +Margaret Coffman b: Abt. 1816 in Virginia m: 01 Jun 1831 in , , Pendleton, Virginia d: Bef. 1880 in , ,Cedar, Illinois 2 Perlina Magdalena Kesner b: Jan 1832 in , , ,Virginia d: Aft. 1900 in of Walnut Grove, Green, Missouri .... +William Peter Starkey b: Nov 1826 in , , Hamilton, Ohio m: Abt. 1851 d: Aft. 1900 in of Walnut Grove, Green, Missouri ... 3 William Henry Starkey b: 06 Mar 1855 in , , Edgar, Illinois d: 05 Jul 1946 in Lakeport, Lake, California ....... +Annie Lee Young b: 04 Jan 1866 in California m: 22 Oct 1884 in Big Valley, Lake, California d: 13 Aug 1946 in San Francisco, San Francisco, California ... 3 Benjamin Franklin Starkey b: Abt. 1858 in Illinois d: Bet. 1880 - 1900 in 150m sw of St Louis, , , Missouri ... 3 Margaret M. Starkey b: Mar 1860 in , , Piatt, Illinois ....... +William A. Lawson m: 03 Aug 1896 in Bolivar, Polk, Missouri ... 3 Martha Jane Starkey b: Bet. 1862 - 1863 in , , Piatt, Illinois d: in Of Springfield, Missouri ....... +Beckley ... 3 Mary E. Starkey b: Nov 1866 in , , Piatt, Illinois or Clinton, Indiana d: Aft. 1935 in San Francisco, San Francisco, California ....... +William Wood m: Abt. 1890 ... 3 Paulina Rose Starkey b: Abt. 1875 in Missouri ....... +M. J. L. Spicer m: 12 Aug 1894 in Springfield, Green, Missouri 2 Simeon Kesner b: 1834 in , ,Pendleton, West Virginia d: 16 Jun 1888 in Jerico Springs, Cedar, Missouri .... +Nancy Coffelt b: 1838 in , , Owen, Indiana m: 04 Sep 1856 in Monticello, Piatt, Illinois d: Aft. 17 Jun 1880 in <Uniontown, Bourbon, Kansas?> ... 3 Harriet Ellen Kesner b: 23 Sep 1857 in Monticello, Piatt, Illinois d: 13 Sep 1912 in Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa ....... +James Robert Dyer b: Abt. 1852 ... 3 John Henry Kesner b: 08 Aug 1862 in Monticello, Piatt, Illinois d: 02 Oct 1932 in Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa ....... +Eliza Clarisa Ashby b: 31 Jan 1868 in Tama, Tama, Iowa m: 1889 in Sloan, Woodbury, Iowa d: 20 Apr 1917 in Sioux City, Sioux, Iowa ... 3 George Perry Kesner b: Mar 1866 in Marion Twp, Bourbon, Kansas d: 18 Feb 1932 in Sioux City, Dakota, Nebraska ....... +Ida Mercina Woods b: 22 Nov 1867 m: 07 Aug 1889 in Emerson, Dakota, Nebraska ... 3 Mary Belle Kesner b: 1868 in Marion, Bourbon, Kansas ....... +Thomas Douglas Nichols b: Abt. 1865 m: Abt. 1886 ... 3 Margaret Anna Kesner b: 23 Oct 1871 in , , Dallas, Missouri d: 24 Aug 1948 in Sioux City, Dakota, Nebraska ....... +John Thomas Knepper b: 10 Jun 1858 in Indianapolis, , Indiana m: 1888 in , , Burt, Nebraska d: 1932 in Sioux City, Dakota, Nebraska ... 3 James Newton Kesner b: 27 Nov 1872 in Jerico, Cedar, Missouri d: 22 Mar 1946 in Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa ....... +Joanna Marie Ellerbroek b: Abt. 1877 m: Nov 1900 ... 3 Charles William Kesner b: 04 Jul 1875 in Marion, Bourbon, Kansas d: 05 Mar 1946 in Severy, Bourbon, Kansas ....... +Fannie Della Lacey b: 1881 in Marion, Bourbon, Kansas m: 31 Aug 1899 ... 3 Robert Fulton Kesner b: 05 Oct 1878 in UnionTown, Bourbon, Kansas d: 14 Jul 1939 in Severy, Greenwood, Kansas ....... +Effie Elvira Back b: 14 Jun 1876 in Mitchell, Mitchell, Iowa m: 14 Jan 1902 in Osage, Mitchell, Iowa d: 08 Jun 1976 in Sunnyvale, Santa Clara, California ... *2nd Wife of Robert Fulton Kesner: ....... +Harriet M. Johnson b: Abt. 1900 m: 16 Jan 1926 in Eureka, Greenwood, Kansas 2 Diadema Kesner b: 1834 in , , ,Virginia .... +Abraham Starkey b: Abt. 1831 in , , Hamilton, Ohio ... 3 Rose Starkey b: Abt. 1862 ....... +Ira Robinson m: Bef. 1883 ... 3 Jennie Starkey ... 3 Willie Starkey 2 Ransom Kesner b: 1843 in , , , Virginia 2 Martha A. Kesner b: 1846 in Clinton , Vermillion, Indiana .... +Richard F. Cross b: Abt. 1841 m: 18 Apr 1861 in , , Piatt, Illinois 2 Lucinda Kesner b: 1849 in Clinton , Vermillion, Indiana .... +William Plotner b: Abt. 1845 m: 24 Dec 1870 in , , Piatt, Illinois ... 3 Allen Plotner *2nd Husband of Lucinda Kesner: .... +David Reed Baird b: Abt. 1844 m: 16 Feb 1881 in , , Piatt, Illinois 2 Laura A. Kesner b: Abt. 1851 in Clinton, Vermillion, Indiana .... +Isaac Webb b: Abt. 1845 m: 29 Sep 1869 in , , Piatt, Illinois Dianna German Anderson

I aggree. Sometimes "by mistake" I find neighbors and lost friends I had forgotten or had not been in contact with since childhood. Please don't fret about these mistakes. Pinx ----- Original Message ----- From: <CBraun675@aol.com> To: <INDIANA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 2:57 PM Subject: [INDIANA] Replies should go to the list!. > I agree. If replies were not posted to the list I might not have found three > other branches of my family. That's the purpose of these lists - to share > information. > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Lora, I'm looking for EMRICH marriages, please. Thanks! Diane Dinomc@aol.com

Hello Indiana researchers, I'm at a standstill. My ggggrandfather was born in Indiana about 1823. I know when he got married and about his family from 1846 to 1872, then I lose him again. I can't figure out when or where he died. I also can't figure out who his parents were or what town he was born in. Since census records before 1850 don't list children, I don't know how to look for him. I believe he was at home with his parents prior to 1846 when he got married. Could someone direct me from here? Many thanks, Susan

Indiana-L will remain with messages sent to the list. If you wish to only send it to the sender then you can do that, but the list will stay the same.Please no votes, this list is for genealogy and history. the space that it would take for votes, we need for genealogy. Pat H List admn. reaghgeny@home.com

I love it when the replies go to everyone...It's really interesting to find out some of you come up with the information you have...If people don't want to read it then they can simply delete it....I am also very pleased with the way we are now putting more info on the subject line. It saves a lot of time if you just don't want to read it all.....Thanks to all who contribute.... Barb

Darlene check out www.interment.net All the counties aren't complete but maybe you will get lucky. Jackie P. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hagel" <wicket@klondyke.net> To: <INDIANA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [INDIANA] Inactive Vand. Co. Cemeteries > Chris are Indiana Cemeteries online somewhere??? > thanks > darlene > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

I am looking for information about a marriage between Mary Elizabeth (Lizzie) Dove and a man name Pernell. I can place her in Fayette County in 1880 and I believe she married shortly after that. She married again in Rush County to a man name Daniel Miller on Oct 19, 1895. Mary's parents were James Vance and Phebe Johnson from TN and then probably Estill County KY. I do not have any information on this Pernell but Daniel Miller's parents were Andrew Miller and Eliza Harshman from PA and then IN. Please help if you can thanks and have a great day! darlene