Keith Lowrey, I don't know if this Frozen Rock was around in 1859, but my mother taught school in the 50's and early 60's at a place called Frozen Rock School. The school was one of the last of the one room schools, and was located in what had been the Frozen Rock community. I can't remember the exact location, but it was near Warner, OK in Muskogee or McIntosh County. The last time I saw the school in the mid-sixties I don't believe anything remained of the rest of the community, which would have been a general store, church, or some such thing. I remember visiting a lot of these sites, where the school was the last vestige of a community, while campaigning (school pie suppers!) with one of my family members, who was a local politician. Incidentally, my line goes to Joseph Coodey (1779-1859), who I believe was the father of William Shorey Coodey mentioned in another post about Frozen Rock Landing. I would be interested in any info on Daniel Ross, John McDonald, George Lowrey or William Shorey, as I don't have any data on these good Scotsmen or their ancestors. Perhaps someone on the list knows more. I also have a number of Lowreys in my line, including a John. My John, born ?, died 1872, marr. Elizabeth Blair and Cynthia Downing. This information comes from his daughter's Cherokee Allotment application. She was Lucinda Lowrey Kerr (Da-ye-ni). There was a John, Jr, stepbrother of Lucinda, perhaps known as Sofkee? I don't have info on him. Do we have any common cousins? I am not aware of Archers. art brown -----Original Message----- From: MR KEITH LOWREY <AANM85A@prodigy.com> To: Indian-Territory-Roots-L@rootsweb.com <Indian-Territory-Roots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 03 January, 1999 11:01 AM Subject: Archers/early Tulsa >Hi, >Over the past two years I have met four "cousins" seeking information >on the Archer family who were early settlers of Tulsa. My Ggmother >was Mary Elizabeth Archer, b. 1857. Her obit said that she was a >white woman and was b. in Paris, TX. I found out that was an error!. >She married John Lowrey Oct.22 1877, probably around Stilwell, I.T. I >learned through the Tulsa Gen. Society that she and six brs. were >born in Sebastian Co. AR. However, one of the latest cousins to >arrive on the scene says that she and the two youngest brs, John >Wesley and Thomas Jefferson Archer were born to a second wife and >were born in Indian Territory. Much has been written about T.J. >(Jeff) Archer as one of if not the first merchant in Tulsa. I have >some documentation that he was 1/16th Cherokee. Mention is made of >him in a number of books about early Tulsa or Tulsey. I have one >article that says he was born in the village of Frozen Rock, I.T. in >1859 and was orphaned at age 7, raised by a Muskogee family named >Stokey and sent off to school in Missouri. He then came back and >opened a tent store to sell supplies for he railroad. Does anyone >know where Frozen Rock, I.T. might be, or might have been, and where >I might be able to find out any information on this village. There >seems to be some credibility to this story that there were two >separate groups of children born to James Archer and one wife and >James Archer and Mary Ann Key, or vice/versa. While the Archers have >been well known in Tulsa, tracking their earlier ancestors has been >most challengign. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Keith Lowrey > >______________________________