Carla B.The info sent you by Lathel is not true as to Degree of Blood. Each Cherokee at least knew his degree of blood. There was no guessing by the person doing the enrollment. You people need to do a lot of reading and studying. If a person had two Tribes mixed, they had to choose one over the other in order to be enrolled. The Rolls were started a long time ago and certainly are not artifical statements. I'm sorry but these statements made by Lathel are the most ridiculous I've ever heard. I am a Cherokee and that is because my Dad was A cHEROKEE and so was my Mom . . I am able to prove all this with no trouble. Oleta E. Benge KITE On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:19:07 -0400 "Lathel Duffield" <Lathel_Duf@msn.com> writes: > Carla The degree of Indian Blood is an artificial statement based > on a a series of past documents about how much "Indian blood" a > person possesses. In earlier times, the blood amount was calculated > (guessed) by the person conducting the census. There were no > documents or other records that "proved" the amount of Indian blood > and individual possessed. For government purposes, it is not the > specific degree of Indian blood by tribe that can be attributed to a > person -- it is the total amount of Indian blood. Therefore, like > your questions asks, the Choctaw blood and the Cherokee blood would > be added together for Federal Government purposes. However, for > membership in the tribe, unless the tribal constitution specifically > allowed for a combination of blood, then the person would have to > meet the tribe's criteria. That requirement would have nothing to > do with the Federal government. Lathel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS -request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >

Do you know anything about a Flora Alexander? She was a Cherokee Citizen recognized as Cherokee by blood. She married "Tour " Thomas Caprock Crowder Carla

Regarding the issue of whether the Dawes enrollment clerks "guessed" at the applicant's degree of Indian blood, Kent Carter, in his book, The Dawes Commission, states on page 49 that, "Determining an applicant's degree of Indian blood proved to be difficult . . . . It appears that if an applicant did not claim to be a full-blood, the enrollment clerks estimated the fraction which they put in the 'degree of blood' column on the official card based on answers given about parents and grandparents." The testimony given by applicants was wildly inaccurate. As an illustration, take the example of my great-grandmother Nannie Leona Fields and her siblings. Nannie and five of her brothers and sisters were enrolled. They all had the same parents--James Sanford Fields and Charlotte E. Stover--and therefore should have had the same degree of Indian blood. Yet, that is not the way it turned out on their Dawes records. They each enrolled individually, at different times and places, and they obviously did not collaborate before giving their testimony. Nannie is shown as 1/32 Cherokee; her twin sister Carrie is recorded as 1/4; brother Moses is 1/16; sister Laura, 1/8; brother Robert, 3/8; and sister Maude is 1/8. Oleta, I am glad to see that you remain as feisty as ever, and I want to thank you again for all your help on the several occasions I researched in the OHS Archives. Jim Granger