Betty, Yes-He was my Grandfather. Oleta On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 13:22:24 -0700 "orville LaRue" <orvill@centurytel.net> writes: > The relative that was killed by the Pin Cherokee was his name James > Starr? > Betty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J W Kite Jr" <obengekite@juno.com> > To: <indian-territory-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:03 AM > Subject: Re: [INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS] Where do you look? > > > > The Old Settlers are the people who were in Arkansas in 1817. As > far as > > Sequoyah=-he is my cousin and he made many trips back and forth. I > know > > there were people here. There were Cherokees called Pin and one > morning > > when my relative went out on the porch to wash his face they came > riding > > out and killed him. Only thing that saved his son was because he > got > > under his mother's skirt. I am a Cherokee-was reared as a Cherokee > have > > traveled , Lowrey family and my people are rather well known. If > you read > > Old Frontier you will find my relatives on almost every page. I > also > > volunteered At OHS "Indian" Archives for five years. When the > Trail of > > Tears came thru Arkansas the Cherokees there could rejoin the > Tribe and > > come on into Indian Territory if they chose. Thereafter, anyone > had to > > get a Permit to come into Indian Territory. Furthermore, anyone > leaving > > theTribe were no longer considered to be aCherokee. I never heard > ofthis > > book you mention but will try to get it. Oleta > > On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:16:26 -0400 "Glee Krapf" <gleek@ptd.net> > writes: > >> There were many people already in Indian Territory before the > TOT. > >> They were > >> well established and had a goverment already in place. My 2nd > great > >> grand > >> brother and his wife are on the old Settler roll. His name was > John > >> Beck. He > >> moved west in 1834 and he did not live in Arkansas he went > straight > >> to what > >> is now OK. He and his family were with one of the first groups > that > >> moved > >> west and there is a book out about the trip. Called The River > Trail. > >> They > >> were NOT on the TOT because they were way before 1837-1838. His > name > >> is > >> listed in the back of the book as being on that trip. They > arrived > >> in Indian > >> Territory 14 May 1834 and they had their first child on the > trail. > >> The > >> leader of the trip was named Lt. Harris. Most of the trip was by > >> water. > >> Sequoyah was also early in moving west and was also well > established > >> in IT > >> before the TOT. > >> Glee > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "J W Kite Jr" <obengekite@juno.com> > >> wrote > >> I've never heard of any Cherokee coming into Indian > >> Territory prior to TOT. > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > >> message > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >