----- Original Message ----- From: J W Kite Jr<mailto:obengekite@juno.com> To: indian-territory-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:indian-territory-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS] Requesting informationaboutpetitionsofenrollm... Lathel, I know all about the Federal workings. I worked at the Archives here -vcolunteered- talked to Offices in Washington and in Fort Worth,. I have visited seveal State Libraries. As a matter of fact I get calls from all over even though I've been retired for sometime so I don't need any advice from anyone but thanks for your point of view. We have tons of stuff here at OHS. Oleta Benge Kite On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:44:38 -0400 "Lathel Duffield" <Lathel_Duf@msn.com<mailto:Lathel_Duf@msn.com>> writes: > BIA and genealogical services > > The BIA is not a repository for historical records. Federal laws > require ALL federal agencies to prepare their records (documents, > etc.) so that when a case is closed, I.e. the documents are no > longer needed for current work, that the original records be > prepared for transfer to the National Archives and Record Services. > The time frame varies depending on the nature of the records but > definitely by the time the documents are 25 years old and the case > is closed, they become part of the legal possession of NARA. The > BIA does not have any claim to the records in spite of the fact that > agency may have created them. There is a transitional period for > more recent records that have been sent to NARA and while these more > recent records are housed by NARA use of the records requires > permission from the BIA. If a person is not a professional > researcher or has never worked with a Federal agency this transition > of documents from the creating agency to NARA is not generally > known. ! > NARA has to implement the privacy laws so more recent records with > personal information can not be distributed. > > There are other factors at work here. Office space as people know > is very expensive. To use such space for storage of "dead" records > places undue strain on an agency budgets. Agencies must rent space > in government buildings and trying to house the thousands of records > that have been created would wipe out the agencies budget. > Technically all the buildings are the responsibility of the > Government Services Administration who have the responsibility of > all Government properties. They have to maintain them, arrange > leases, etc. The costs of any move from one building to another > however is borne by the agency. This is very a person should rely > on NARA and not the BIA for any relevant documentation. > > Lathel Duffield > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan M<mailto:wb@wvi.com<mailto:wb@wvi.com>> > To: > indian-territory-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:indian-territory-roots@rootswe<mailto:indian-territory-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:indian-territory-roots@rootswe> b.com> > > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:40 PM > Subject: Re: [INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS] Requesting > informationaboutpetitionsof enrollm... > > > maybe ask for donations from those who care? Also. > Dan M > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TopBranchW@aol.com<mailto:TopBranchW@aol.com<mailto:TopBranchW@aol.com<mailto:TopBranchW@aol.com>>> > To: > <indian-territory-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:indian-territory-roots@rootsw<mailto:indian-territory-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:indian-territory-roots@rootsw> eb.com>> > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 6:16 PM > Subject: Re: [INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS] Requesting information > aboutpetitionsof enrollm... > > > > Hi, > > > > Perhaps if the BIA is having fiscal problems they might consider > offering > > genealogical services - for a price. So many people seem > interested. > And so > > many families have the lore of Indian ancestry. > > > > W.L. 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