There were many people already in Indian Territory before the TOT. They were well established and had a goverment already in place. My 2nd great grand brother and his wife are on the old Settler roll. His name was John Beck. He moved west in 1834 and he did not live in Arkansas he went straight to what is now OK. He and his family were with one of the first groups that moved west and there is a book out about the trip. Called The River Trail. They were NOT on the TOT because they were way before 1837-1838. His name is listed in the back of the book as being on that trip. They arrived in Indian Territory 14 May 1834 and they had their first child on the trail. The leader of the trip was named Lt. Harris. Most of the trip was by water. Sequoyah was also early in moving west and was also well established in IT before the TOT. Glee ----- Original Message ----- From: "J W Kite Jr" <obengekite@juno.com> wrote I've never heard of any Cherokee coming into Indian Territory prior to TOT.

Glee you are right if you will look on the old maps what was called Arkansas Territory then is a big part of Oklahoma now. I am from some of the old settlers. The Starr's. I go back to Nancy Ward on one side and Sequoyah on the other. I have found it is best to take everything with a grain of salt and check to be sure it is right. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glee Krapf" <gleek@ptd.net> To: <indian-territory-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS] Where do you look? > There were many people already in Indian Territory before the TOT. They > were > well established and had a goverment already in place. My 2nd great grand > brother and his wife are on the old Settler roll. His name was John Beck. > He > moved west in 1834 and he did not live in Arkansas he went straight to > what > is now OK. He and his family were with one of the first groups that moved > west and there is a book out about the trip. Called The River Trail. They > were NOT on the TOT because they were way before 1837-1838. His name is > listed in the back of the book as being on that trip. They arrived in > Indian > Territory 14 May 1834 and they had their first child on the trail. The > leader of the trip was named Lt. Harris. Most of the trip was by water. > Sequoyah was also early in moving west and was also well established in IT > before the TOT. > Glee > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J W Kite Jr" <obengekite@juno.com> > wrote > I've never heard of any Cherokee coming into Indian > Territory prior to TOT. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Betty Which Starr do you go bact thru? I live on Caleb's land about 3/4 mile from where his home stood. and as Sequoyah was first cousin to Nancy Ward you'll go two ways into Moytoy #1 Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "orville LaRue" <orvill@centurytel.net> To: <indian-territory-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS] Where do you look? > Glee you are right if you will look on the old maps what was called > Arkansas > Territory then is a big part of Oklahoma now. I am from some of the old > settlers. The Starr's. I go back to Nancy Ward on one side and Sequoyah on > the other. I have found it is best to take everything with a grain of salt > and check to be sure it is right. > Betty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glee Krapf" <gleek@ptd.net> > To: <indian-territory-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 3:16 PM > Subject: Re: [INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS] Where do you look? > > >> There were many people already in Indian Territory before the TOT. They >> were >> well established and had a goverment already in place. My 2nd great grand >> brother and his wife are on the old Settler roll. His name was John Beck. >> He >> moved west in 1834 and he did not live in Arkansas he went straight to >> what >> is now OK. He and his family were with one of the first groups that moved >> west and there is a book out about the trip. Called The River Trail. They >> were NOT on the TOT because they were way before 1837-1838. His name is >> listed in the back of the book as being on that trip. They arrived in >> Indian >> Territory 14 May 1834 and they had their first child on the trail. The >> leader of the trip was named Lt. Harris. Most of the trip was by water. >> Sequoyah was also early in moving west and was also well established in >> IT >> before the TOT. >> Glee >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "J W Kite Jr" <obengekite@juno.com> >> wrote >> I've never heard of any Cherokee coming into Indian >> Territory prior to TOT. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006 > >