Dear Robin, Our family went through this. They were wealthy in the East and my family is pretty well known-written about in many books and even though my Grandfather was one half he was not allowed to be Guardian for his children-had to have whites appointed and yes you can guess what happened. My sister-in-laws cousin married a wealthy Osage and she had a son . She had to get permission to buy him shoes and this happened in the 40s or 50s. In a lot of cases the amount of blood varies because the people did not want to be restricted if they were more than one fourth. I am a Cherokee-volunteered for five years in our State Indian Archives working closely with BIA, etc. in Washington. The Dawes enrollment was for Cherokees who had landed in Indian Territory and this was between 1898 and 1906-anyone born after that could get certified from either parents or grandparents who were on the rolls. I've never gotten a CDIB card but am right at one half. I too am descended from Nancy Ward. I'm also retired from DHEW-Indian Health Service. Oleta On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:51:39 EDT Smithfx7@aol.com writes: > I am Cherokee and have a CDIB card and am a citizen of the Cherokee > Nation > in OK. My ancestors that are listed on the Dawes all have varying > degrees of > blood quantum, siblings with the same parents have different blood > degrees. > I was always told by my grandparents and great grandmother that > most were > afraid to say they were more Cherokee than they really were because > if you were > more than a 1/4 the government would assign a white overseer of > your > allotment. My blood line is fairly easy to trace since I am a > descendant of Nancy > Ward on my grandfather's side and Major John Downing on my > grandmother's side > there was a lot of documentation . I also see differences in blood > degree > on the 1900 census vs the Dawes roll in what my ancestors listed. > I think > that makes no difference in how that reflected in their Cherokee > pride. We > have to remember that times were different back then most were just > trying to > survive. My ancestors started out wealthy and ended up poor my > great > grandmother lost her husband and 6 children from sickness and > accidents and on both > sides of my family they had houses that burned down. I think it > has taken > all the way up to my generation to catch up, my sister's and I are > the first > to own houses and be able to keep up with the Jones's. > > Robin Smith > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >

just out of curiosity Oleta, why didn't you get the CDIB? Carla