Hi Jim, Glad to hear from you. Here is what happened to my Grandmother. Grandpa Starr was murdered before Mom was born and my Grandmother married again. When Grandpa went to enroll ,he enrolled her too but he enrolled her for less blood so she would not be restricted. You can get a statement from BIA stating since she is daughter of so and so she would be considered to be her correct degree, Rolls can't be changed but they will do this because they did this on my Great Uncle. Oleta On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:26:52 -0400 "Jim Granger" <granger68@comcast.net> writes: > Regarding the issue of whether the Dawes enrollment clerks "guessed" > at the > applicant's degree of Indian blood, Kent Carter, in his book, The > Dawes > Commission, states on page 49 that, "Determining an applicant's > degree of > Indian blood proved to be difficult . . . . It appears that if an > applicant > did not claim to be a full-blood, the enrollment clerks estimated > the > fraction which they put in the 'degree of blood' column on the > official card > based on answers given about parents and grandparents." > > The testimony given by applicants was wildly inaccurate. As an > illustration, take the example of my great-grandmother Nannie Leona > Fields > and her siblings. Nannie and five of her brothers and sisters were > enrolled. They all had the same parents--James Sanford Fields and > Charlotte > E. Stover--and therefore should have had the same degree of Indian > blood. > Yet, that is > not the way it turned out on their Dawes records. They each > enrolled > individually, at different times and places, and they obviously did > not > collaborate before giving their testimony. Nannie is shown as 1/32 > Cherokee; her twin sister Carrie is recorded as 1/4; brother Moses > is 1/16; > sister Laura, 1/8; brother Robert, 3/8; and sister Maude is 1/8. > > Oleta, I am glad to see that you remain as feisty as ever, and I > want to > thank you again for all your help on the several occasions I > researched in > the OHS Archives. > > Jim Granger > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIAN-TERRITORY-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >

Just curious...why is less blood allowing her not to be restricted and what does restricted entail? I ask because the Choctaw nation says my husbands grandpa died intestate (without a will) and that though his land was restricted, because he was 1/2 and his heirs were 1/4, on his death the tax status and restrictions were removed. Even still shouldn't his heirs (and they were on the record because they got disbursements x2) known or been given the option to keep taxes and property in the family? Is this the same kind of restriction you are mentioning or another all together? Carla