I suspose I have a rather "simplistic" viewpoint. but, it seems to me that if those of you who are unhappy with the OHS would talk TO the OHS rather than ABOUT the OSH, perhaps some of your concerns could be addressed. At least your coments would be directed to those who can do something about them. OHS may appreciate your coments and may even provide some opportunity for you to help improve its service. That, in turn, would allow this list to return to productive research. Paul