Once again. Thank everybody for the information that they've passed this way. It is very much appreciated. Sharon: George Caruth and Ellen Moore had a son named William Coffee Woodall, b. July 4, 1835. BUT, I also see where James Tuck and Elizabeth had a child by the same name. Which would have made them Uncle and nephew, obviously. If you are able to check out the rest of the family lines you'll see that there were many Williams, Nannies, Stands, Georges and Thomases. Also, Mary Annie Reese, Margaret Annie Reese is better known as Margaret Ann(e) Reese, at least this is what I always find her information under. He had no children with his second wife Margaret Agnew. Somebody asked for more information on Ellen and I'm sorry that I forgot to write down your name. I don't have much on her other than she was also known as Ailey and Aisley. I'm assuming the reason for this is because none native speakers had a hard time understanding the accent of the native tongues. You'll find her on the Old Settler's Rolls and the Old Settler Payment Rolls as Aisley. Also, her son Stand was known as Starr on the Payment rolls. Her father was Charles Moore, known among the Cherokee as Shooter, and her mother's name in Cherokee meant Glass. Supposedly, I have no proof of this, Charles was one of the signers of the Treaty of New Echota. George Woodall was also known as George Mummer. OH! And although our family "made it" in the Cherokee Nation, they were actually born Delaware (Lenape). For one reason or another they had been adopted into the Cherokee, though I'm not sure when. On one of the Rolls I've seen, can't remember which, although Ellen is listed as Cherokee, the information for parents, she has her parents listed as Delaware. William also frequently listed himself as Delaware. And although it's off this particular topics, some information about Emmett Starr that many may find helpful and answer some questions about why their families can't be found. Take into consideration that at the time many of the traditional families still practiced .....not sure of the actual word.... multiple marriages. A man could be married to many women at the same time. Almost always sisters. It was the way of the "clan" system. The women were head of the household and kept their homes. If anybody left the marriage, it was the man. So sisters married to the same man was not uncommon and was acceptable.....to the Cherokee. NOT to Mr. Starr. If a man had more than one wife, he only recognized the first wife and her children. I've been told that he did make acceptions now and then, but have seen no proof of it. Thought this information might be useful. Thank you again Sharon. I can definitely use this information. :-) I had no idea he had been voted into council until Jerri said something yesterday. And twice?! Hmmmmm? Does anybody know what kind of information the Cherokee Nation might have on him in their archives? If there's any way possible to get any of it without going to Oklahoma? Kind of impossible for me to travel right now and may be a long while before I am able. Thank you all again. ----Valerie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text