I give up on FTM sometimes. The easiest way to do this is copy it here I think and maybe it will ring bells somewhere else. GEROGE YOUNG b 1789 Where? died in 1861 Henry co Mo. He married Rachael who was born in 1785 in Tenn. Child: Mary Polly Young b 1808 in mo, died 1848 MARY POLLY YOUNG married Jacob Shultz fon of Peter . He was born in 1802 in KY and died 1867 in Ark. Children; Polly Shultz m Edmond Carney Malinda Jane Shultz b 1833 Henry co. Mo * FRANCIS MARION SHULTS b 1836 Mo. Joseph Young Shults, b 1842, m. America Nelson b Feb 1, 1848, Dent Co Mo. Malinda Jane Shults (Mary Polly & George) b 1833, Henry Co. Married John Carney. b 1826. Children Robert Carney Joseph Carney b 1851 Martha Jane Carney b 1852 Mahala E Carney b 1856 Rosanne F. Carney b 1861 JOHN YOUNG CARNEY b. 2/24/1865 Dent Cty Mo. d 7/6/1914 San Antonio TX John Young Carney m Martha Julia Terry, b 8153 Ms, d. 9/10 1910 in Springfield,MO (She is definitely NA from pict and my mother) Children: Effa Alma Carney b 3/12/1883, Dent Cty Mo, d 11/6/1907 Springfield (Her home was Bentonville Ark at that time but she had TB and when they realised she would die she was taken home to her mother;s. Both she and Martha and my sister Catherine are buried at Hazelwood Cemetery in Springfield on a plot bought by my grandfather John Newton Crittenden. Someone will find me there too eventually I expect. They married21 July 1901 in Ark. Mattie Carney b 1887 She married too, had a baby who died of TB at 3 mos and she died a few months later of TB also. My mother said they took the baby away because she was too ill too care for it. Effa Alma Carney m John Newton Crittenden b 7/5/1878, McMinn Cty Tenn, d. 9/11/1954 Santa Clara California Children: 1Dessa Vivian Crittenden b 15 Sept 1902, Fayetteville Ark.d 1989 Phoenis Arizona. m. Homer A Land of Republic Mo 2 Oct 1920 in Bentonville Homer was born in Republic Mo 2 March 1900 and died on the 3rd of March 1981 in Mesa Arizona Children: 1 Catherine Janette Land lived only 2 days in 1935 2 Ardith Jane Land (me) 2Theodore Young Crittenden b 1904, Bentonville d 1940's He had several children, one of whom was also Theodore Young Crittenden, called TY. He died about 2 years ago in Washington. The Young name has been carried on for so many generations that there must have been regular contact between the families. Clearly they were there in Mo very early before any roll were taken. The also clearly moved easily between Missouri and Arkansas and Mississippi, all Indian Territory early on and always populated by Cherokee and others of the 5 tribes. The Crittendens traditionally have Cherokee blood and my cousins whose gggranfathers were three of the sons of William Land from SC, believe that there is Cherokee heritage there too. They married with no problem into Native families,e.g. Martha and John Carney and my father and mother. My mother clearly was of Cherokee origin too, as am I and my grandson. Brothers often married sisters, it happened several times in my family, and named their kids after each other and the siblings of both families. I have pictures of Polly and Mary Young and of Edmond Carney and his family. You might also check with Steve Shults, a cousin who has info on the family too. [email protected] Note the Francis Marion in the Shults/Young line. Coincidence?? Sorry to take so much space but it sounds to me like a strong link exists here and maybe we can put part of the puzzle together. God Bless, Jane