han everyone....i am relatively new to this list, and frankly, have no problem with Jerri, our list mom...just people attacking other people who have different views on matters...i for one like this list, and most people on it..the ones i think are insulting or attacking others, i just ignore...and chalk it up to immaturity...i, like others hope we can just move on to our subject now, which is genealogy...i am learning here, from you all, and hope to be able to contribute something soon...toksa ake...blessings to you all...kris