"I have an Aunt whose name is Wynema born in Arkansas. I believe she is part Indian also. I don't know much about her family history yet. Will find out if anyone is interested. She is very much still alive." Lorri Bunn Nyssa, Oregon Yes, Lorri, that would be great if you could find out more about this name. Melinda

I will be taking some time off of the list, and genealogy in general, to move . I just want to thank ya'll for all of the help you given. I has brought me a long way, both in genealogy and otherwise. Doug

On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Bandony wrote: > Just got a query today, that raised a question for me. After the > Civil War, (Indian Territory) would any of the Union Indian soldiers > have been eligible for the Union Pension? I know there were 1st, 2nd, > and 3rd Indian Home Guards, US Army. For that matter, how about the > Confederate Soldiers? White soldiers on both sides were eligible, but > were the Indians?????? Jeri???? > Many of the Indian Home Guards DID collect pensions, and those who did are listed in the General Index to Pensions on microfilm at the National Archives. I have collected a number of pension records from soldiers from the 1st and 2nd Home Guards. They contain many pages of data on the soldiers, and often on their families, after the war.

Thanks Angela. And Thanks to all who answered. It seems the Indian soldiers were eligible and did recieve pensions from both sides. I will pass this on. Ethel > On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Bandony wrote: > > > Just got a query today, that raised a question for me. After the > > Civil War, (Indian Territory) would any of the Union Indian soldiers > > have been eligible for the Union Pension? I know there were 1st, 2nd, > > and 3rd Indian Home Guards, US Army. For that matter, how about the > > Confederate Soldiers? White soldiers on both sides were eligible, but > > were the Indians?????? Jeri???? > > > Many of the Indian Home Guards DID collect pensions, and those who did > are listed in the General Index to Pensions on microfilm at the National > Archives. > > I have collected a number of pension records from soldiers from the 1st > and 2nd Home Guards. They contain many pages of data on the soldiers, and > often on their families, after the war. > > > "May the warm winds of heaven blow softly upon your house. May the Great Spirit Bless all who enter here. May your moccasins make happy tracks, in many snows, And may the rainbow always touch your shoulder."

Hi, I'm back.Does anyoneknow where I would or how I would find case number 5203? It is suppose to be of Margeret Worby? Thanks, Sherry Smile and everyone will wonder what you are up to!!!!!!!!!! My new address is sschuler@bama.ua.edu...

Was soundex census information first begun in 1890? Was it carried through up to and including 1920? Is it true that only families with children under 10 years of age were included on the Soundex cards? Are there Soundex microfilms for all states? Thanks!! Charlie

Sorry- I need to add one more thing to the prior message: "(5) order the enrollment packet from the Oklahoma Archives to verify that this is your family" --- <add> -- by comparing the information to the 1910 census, the 1920 census, and the death certificates that you have already acquired for your family. Jerri Chasteen

Hi, Sharon. I went back and found the site where I found the name Winiema. Now that I've gone back I see that Wynema was in parentheses. I don't know that this is definitely a Creek name but maybe someone else will see this and clarify. I quote,"2) Winiema (Wynema) Torrans Posey, Creek Indian [#NB-4], a daughter, 8 years old, born in Indian Territory." You might like to go to this site and read the interesting story. It's at: http://home.earthlink.net/~dawise/duncan.htm Melinda Shndeu@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/15/98 10:14:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, edges@mail.gci- > net.com writes: > > << I have found only one > other person, so far, of that era with the name Wynema and it was spelled > Winiema. Next to the name in parentheses was it's origin-Creek. > >> > Hi excuse me for interrupting, because I wasn't following the whole string. > It's interesting that you said 'Wynema' was of Creek origin. Wynema was my > grandmother's name. She was born in 1912. Her parents were both on all the > Cherokee rolls. Her father named her. I believe that his father was actually > Creek, or a mixed blood Creek. So I do find this interesting. Thank You! > Sharon

You said: "William and Mary Davis are a very common names and they are listed under every tribe in the Dawes commission Index 1898-1914. Can anyone give me advice on how to figure out witch are my Great grandparents. I've gone to the archives and to the library and not getting anywhere." Carla- (BT-DT) "Davis" is a tough name to research! (BT-DT= "been there- done that"). There is only one way to do this, or you will still be looking at that name and those rolls ten years from now <grin>. Where were your great-grandparents living and enumerated on the 1900 census? If they were not living in Indian Territory prior to the 1900 census, then they would not be any of those who are shown on the Dawes Roll of the Five Civilized Tribes. Three of the main requirements to be listed on the 1902 Dawes roll of the five tribes were (1) prior enrollment; (2) tribal citizenship and (3) continuous residence WITH the tribe in Indian Territory (usually) from at least 1880 through 1906. Finding them on the 1900 census will answer this for you-- (1) Are they shown as "Indian" on that census (no excuses about "hiding", please); (2) where were they and their children born ("continuous residence" requirement); (3) Which nation of Indian Territory were they living in on the 1900 census; (4) check the Dawes listing for THAT nation/tribe to see if the names, ages and children match any of those who were enrolled; (5) order the enrollment packet from the Oklahoma Archives to verify that this is your family. Best of luck Jerri Chasteen

Just got a query today, that raised a question for me. After the Civil War, (Indian Territory) would any of the Union Indian soldiers have been eligible for the Union Pension? I know there were 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Indian Home Guards, US Army. For that matter, how about the Confederate Soldiers? White soldiers on both sides were eligible, but were the Indians?????? Jeri???? Ethel "May the warm winds of heaven blow softly upon your house. May the Great Spirit Bless all who enter here. May your moccasins make happy tracks, in many snows, And may the rainbow always touch your shoulder."

Good morning to all, I'm getting real busy and I'm taking a couple of weeks off, so I'm going to unsubscribe, I'll be back after the first of the year. Merry Christmas to all! Dan Metivier ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`'(_______)`'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ surnames on my MITCHELL side, BRADY, BROOM, BRYAN, COMMERS, ENDICOTT, FOREMAN, GOURD, GU-U-LI-SI, HALFBREED, HALL, HICKS HIGHTOWER, HORN, JACKSON, LOUNDAGIN, MERRYMAN, MITCHELL, PATTON, RATTLINGGOURD, SEABOLT, STITH, THORN, THORNE, YADON surnames on my METIVIER side, ANNERY, AUGER, AYOT-AYOTTE, BELAND, BIGRAS, BOMBARDIER, CHRETIEN, D'ORANGE, GOYETTE, GROIGNIER, HOSTAIN, HUBERT, JODOIN, JUSMET, LACHANCE, LADOUCEUR, LAMOUREUX, LECLETC, LEFORT, LEMITRE, LASAGE, LIMOUSIN, MARINEAU, METIVIER, PEPIN, PICOTTE, PLOECKEHMAN, RATHIER, ROBERT, SCHWANZ, TARDIF, TROTIER, VENET

Subject: Re: Sallisaw Cemetery book Sorry I looked and there are no Huffs in this book! Nan Mary Julien wrote: > Would you please look for Thomas J. Huff and wife Zula? I sure could use > their death dates and his birthdate. Thank you so much. Mary > > Sallisaw Cementery book

In the Dawes Commission 1896 Index I have found William Davis, Mary Davis and Fanny Davis listed under Choctaw Case Number 320. I would appreciate a look up. William and Mary Davis are a very common names and they are listed under every tribe in the Dawes commission Index 1898-1914. Can anyone give me advice on how to figure out witch are my Great grandparents. I've gone to the archives and to the library and not getting anywhere. Thanks, Carla

J.W., Thank you for the correction re the word reservation. I should have used Territory throughout. I did know that the whole area was the Cherokee Nation but I did not know that white people had to have a permit to live there. I was always told that my grandma was Cherokee. I think this was from her mother's side. I believe she intermarried white after having her first child Althea. Unfortunately, I know of no living descendants from her two brothers. I have looked online at the Dawes Roll and Final Rolls and there are a number of Montgomerys there. I just haven't been able to go further yet. I'm still waiting for my grandma's SSDI info. I have found only one other person, so far, of that era with the name Wynema and it was spelled Winiema. Next to the name in parentheses was it's origin-Creek. J W Kite Jr wrote: > Melinda, There were no Reservations. Indian Territory as well as Oklahoma > Territory became a State on November 16th, 1907. These three locations > were all within the Cherokee Nation and white people had to have a > permit to be there.OK in OKC > On Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:40:48 +0000 E Schrock <edges@mail.gci-net.com> > writes: > >I'm new to this forum so, please forgive my stumblings! I've just > >begun > >researching my Montgomery relatives who lived in Indian Territory in > >the > >late 1800s to about 1920. My great uncle, Orvel Montgomery was born in > >1902. My grandmother, Lula Wynema was born in 1904 and great uncle Roy > >was born in 1916. Their parents (no first names available) died in > >1918 > >in the flu epidemic of that year. There was a half sister named Althea > >(no last name) who died of alcoholism in the 1930s. They lived in the > >Stilwell or Sallisaw area or maybe even the Talequah area. I would > >love > >to hear from anyone knowledgeable about this area at the turn of the > >century. I was told that my grandmother was born on the reservation. > >Thanks, Melinda. > > > > > >

Would you please look for Thomas J. Huff and wife Zula? I sure could use their death dates and his birthdate. Thank you so much. Mary Sallisaw Cementery book

In the Sallisaw Cementery book there is a listing for 1 "Pool" That is a Samuel Pool born in 1890 -1942 Sorry thats all thats in it. Have any other names? I might could look up? Sharolyn McCoy wrote: > Looking for information on family of Delbert S. Poole, born September 3, > 1894 in Muldrow (Sequoyah County) I.T. Father was James "Frank" Pool(e). > Mother's name was Ada. > Sharolyn McCoy

Searching for Jane Braswell listed as Choctaw, card number 195. Martha

Looking for information on family of Delbert S. Poole, born September 3, 1894 in Muldrow (Sequoyah County) I.T. Father was James "Frank" Pool(e). Mother's name was Ada. Sharolyn McCoy

Hi, I'm new at this so, I hope I do this correctly. I just recently suscribed. I have copy of an 1896 Choctaw Roll, it shows the family of John Goode and Melvina Carnes. Their children are James Killingsworth, age 18-Virginia Goode Jones (married with a child, Osborne Jones) age, 15-David Goode,age 14-Minnie Goode,age4-Willie F Goode,age 2 (our line). A ward , Rose Jackson,Father and Mother, dead. Names of her parents were ?Jackson and Isabelle Jackson. The father of Melvina Carnes Goode were listed as dead also, their names were John and Lizzie Carnes of BokTukle and John and Melvina Goode lived in Blue Co. In fact, William F Goode (Willie was born at Matoy). I would be interested in contact with any descendents of these families. Thanks , Billie Goode

To all you Oklahoma researchers, I have entered the first installment in to the Pontotoc County Archives. Please stop by and look. If you have something to contribute, please let me know. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/pontotoc/pontotoc.html My email address is HarveyBottoms@CSI.com Harvey