Thanks Jerri, sure wish we could just log on and everything would be at our fingertips, but nothing replaces the individual searches and proving information found on the net. My wish list would include the cooperation of local gen. soc. submitting their materials on the county sites or with the different lists like Roots. People will always want printed materials if they are interested in building their library and want their information better organized. Thanks for the help on various subjects, as well as the rest of the members who respond. Jerri Chasteen wrote: > Jo Autrey wrote: > > > What a wonderful question, i could use it too but didn't know it had a web > > site. > > > > Sharolyn McCoy wrote: "jc, where is the website for the 1900 Indian > > Territory soundex census?" > > It isn't, Jo-- see my other message to Sharolyn. > > I just wish some of these companies who are making all of the big bucks from > CD's would offer the Soundex on CD-ROM! I believe that we will soon see > cheaper prices and more "source material" be made available since the LDS > Church has started selling some of their CD's at a VERY reasonable price (no > $59.95 for one CD, as the "for profit" companies do). > > jc

Jo Autrey wrote: > What a wonderful question, i could use it too but didn't know it had a web > site. > > Sharolyn McCoy wrote: "jc, where is the website for the 1900 Indian > Territory soundex census?" It isn't, Jo-- see my other message to Sharolyn. I just wish some of these companies who are making all of the big bucks from CD's would offer the Soundex on CD-ROM! I believe that we will soon see cheaper prices and more "source material" be made available since the LDS Church has started selling some of their CD's at a VERY reasonable price (no $59.95 for one CD, as the "for profit" companies do). jc

Sharolyn McCoy wrote: " jc, where is the website for the 1900 Indian Territory soundex census?" ~~~~~~ Sharon- You just cannot do all of your research on Internet. You'll have to do it "the old fashioned way"-- by reading microfilm at your own library. Go to your own public library, tell them that you want to order the 1900 Indian Territory census Soundex microfilm for the code number that I gave you in the last message (rental: about $3.75 per month). Then, after you find the family that you want on the film, photocopy that card. You will use the "ED number" (Enumeration Dist), page number and line number to order the actual census microfilm that will show all of the information about your family: names, race, sex, month & year of birth, age, how many times each parent had been married, how many years in this marriage, how many children born to this mother (not necessarily all being of this marriage!), how many of these children now living, where this person was born, where each of this person's parents were born, occupation, language, when naturalized (if foreign born), and much more! You won't be disappointed! jc

What a wonderful question, i could use it too but didn't know it had a web site. Sharolyn McCoy wrote: > jc, where is the website for the 1900 Indian Territory soundex census? > Thanks, Sharolyn

Jerri, thank you. This is the first time I have had this explained to me. Sharolyn

GAL wrote: > I hate to sound so ignorant - but when it comes to the Native American > research I know nothing. So many of you have been helpful by sharing > websites with me and I am going through them. > > Someone sent me a list of Birdsongs from the Dawes rolls but gave no date. > So my stupid question is exactly what is the Dawes rolls and what date? > > It wasn't my Birdsongs that were listed in Choctaw Nation, unfortunatley. > Mine weren't freedmen and they weren't Choctaw but lived in the nation. > I've heard mine were either Cherokee or Chickasaw. > > I don't even know that they would be listed on the rolls in Indian > Territory but thought perhaps from other records I might pick them up. > > TIA, > GAL The Dawes Roll was compiled between 1898 and 1902- (1906 for newborn children of enrollees). You can get better results by looking at the 1900 Indian Territory census Soundex for the name "Birdsong" (Soundex code would be B-632) -- that will give every person who is listed on the 1900 Indian Territory census, and will tell you which Indian nation they were living in, and you can order the census for that nation. jc

jc, where is the website for the 1900 Indian Territory soundex census? Thanks, Sharolyn

I hate to sound so ignorant - but when it comes to the Native American research I know nothing. So many of you have been helpful by sharing websites with me and I am going through them. Someone sent me a list of Birdsongs from the Dawes rolls but gave no date. So my stupid question is exactly what is the Dawes rolls and what date? It wasn't my Birdsongs that were listed in Choctaw Nation, unfortunatley. Mine weren't freedmen and they weren't Choctaw but lived in the nation. I've heard mine were either Cherokee or Chickasaw. I don't even know that they would be listed on the rolls in Indian Territory but thought perhaps from other records I might pick them up. TIA, GAL

Searching for information or descendants of the Tom Blagg family. Tom J. Blagg b. May 1858 AR married Sarah Hill in Grayson Co, TX (?? date) One known child - Joe L. Blagg b. Oct 1889 I.T. 1900 Census I.T. in the household of Lewis Hill shows Tom Blagg (son-in -law) age 42 Joe L. Blagg (grandson) age 10 Any information will be appreciated. TIA, Alta aschmer@lakemac.net

Searching for information or descendants of Mary Merchant b. Aug 1858 Tx. Mary Merchant is listed as step-dau in the household of Lewis Hill on the 1900 Census Indian Territory. Any information will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Alta aschmer@lakemac.net

Searching for information on the Wesley J. Hill family. Wesley J. Hill b. Sept 1866 TX & wife Dolly b. June 1875 Known children were: Birtie B. Hill b. Feb 1891 in I.T. William L. Hill b. Jan 1897 in I.T. Parilee Hill b. April 1899 in I.T. Any help will be appreciated. Alta aschmer@lakemac.net

Hello, I am researching Mary Crawford, who is listed on the 1870 Lee County, Kentucky Census as the 10 year old daughter of Elihu Crawford and Elizabeth Sparks. Mary Crawford married Richard McKinney on April 17, 1873 in Lee County, KY at the home of Elihu Crawford(her father). These are their children: Margaret A. McKinney born 1874 in Lee Co., KY Sarah E. McKinney born 1877 in Lee Co., KY James B. McKinney born 1879 in Lee Co., KY George W. McKinney born 1883 Elihu McKinney born 1886 Cora L McKinney born 1889 Carlton McKinney born abt 1897 in Oklahoma Clay C. McKinney born abt 1901 in Oklahoma Richard and Mary Crawford McKinney moved to Indian Territory(Oklahoma) around 1890, exact year not known. On the 1910 Garvin County, Oklahoma census they are living in the township of Stratford. It indicates that 7 of their 8 children are still living. A family bible entry indicates that Mary Crawford McKinney died August 11, 1918. The 1920 Seminole County, Oklahoma census supports this. It shows Richard widowed and living with his daughter and son- in-laws family in Econtuchka township. An obituary for James B McKinney, the son of Richard and Mary Crawford McKinney, indicates that his family came to Indian Territory in 1890 from Lee County, Kentucky, they settled near Wayne. The family also lived in Pauls Valley. If there is anyone on the list that is researching the Mary Crawford McKinney line please contact me. Thank you, Debbie

I am very interested in the list of names. it is very kind of you to offer to share. My thanks in advance. Alma Patricia J. Wallace wrote: > Hello All, > > I ran into this while going through some old files of mine. > > This is just the introduction to the list of names. There are > a lot of names. > > Thought I would ask first. Is any one interested in this list? > > PJ Wallace > ________________________________________________________ > > This is a list of names of those who claimed land in the > Cherokee Strip Land Run of 1893. These names were recovered from a > computer database created before DOS. It has been hand edited into > an ASCII format. Please keep in mind that this should only serve as > a reference. It is unknown how complete or accurate this record > is. The city and state given are where the people came from. > > It was Sept. 16, 1893, the day of the largest land "run" in > history, the opening of the Cherokee Strip to settlement. 15,000 > people had gathered along the boundaries for many days and were > ready for the gunshot at noon to start them on their quest for > claims, every acre was claimed by nightfall. Land offices for the > filing of claims were at Perry, Enid, Alva and Woodward. Seven > counties had been designated in the Strip at that time, with letter > names K,L,M,N,O,P and Q with county names to be chosen later by the > settlers. > > K became KAY > L became Grant > M became Woods > N became Woodward > O became Garfield > P became Noble > Q became Pawnee > > At statehood the 7 counties became 10 1/2 counties, as ALFALFA > was created from part of Woods Co., Harper from part of Woodward > Co., and the north half of ELLIS was also from part of Woodward Co. > MAJOR was from the southern part of Woods Co. > > In this reference O.T. stands for Oklahoma Territory. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi All, I have been away from the list for awhile and would like to know if the lady who helped me out before with my Ray's or anyone could give me some more info on the Siler rolls of 1851. I have a Nancy Richardson p191 then under the Dawes rolls of 1898-1914 Nancy Welch 21392 and John Welch 21391. Is there anyway to tell if these are the ones I am looking for and what are the numbers listed with them?? Any help would be greatly appriciated. Thanks Connie

If anyone has access to 1906 newspapers for I.T., can you check for an obituary for William B. DAVIDSON. He died 30 July 1906, so, it would probably be around the first of August. He was a fairly prominent townsman, so, I believe there should be something in a Stigler, Sallisaw, Webber Falls or Cowlington newspaper. Thanks for your help! Barbara DAVIDSON Norkus

Does anyone know what Ire. stands for and where it is? My grandfather was suspose to be born in Ire. IT in 1876? Thanks for any help, Pam

I had so many responses to my question concerning the URL that I could not retrieve. Thanks to everyone who wrote. You guys (and gals) are great and most helpful! GAL

> When I try to go to this site is says "Not Found". > Does anyone know if it moved or ..........? > > Native American Site at http://www.i-america.net/homepages/sngunn/new.html > > Thanks, > GAL > Just go to http://www.i-america.net/homepages/sngunn Jim

Hi, would it be too much trouble to look up the William H. Boyd family and/or James Ashby Boyd in your History of Indian Territory? I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks, Donna Boyd

I think it stands for International Order of Odd Fellows, another fraternal organization. Jim >I believe the I.O.O.F. stands for International Order Of Forestors.