It would be very interesting if someone would explain the marriage and divorce customs of the Indians of the various tribes. I am mainly interested in the tribes in Arkansas and Oklahoma for the years of about 1880 through 1920. Our grandmother, Lilly Gibbs, was said to have told her children that she was of Indian heritage and that she had married first, a white man, a Mr. Brown and that her people were very displeased because she had not chosen to marry the man of their choosing. She was said to have been disowned from her people which were said to have been Cherokee, but could have been another tribe. We have found Lilly Gibbs b. 1902 on the Clark County, Arkansas Federal Census and it lists her with her mother, Roxie, and her step father, Fred Milhey/Milkey/Mulkey. Birth place listed for both Roxie and Lilly was "Arkansas" and for Fred, "Germany. Sometime between 1910 and 1920 Lilly was married to Mr. Brown, he ends up missing in history and she has given birth to a daughter Bertha, 1917 at the foot of the Kiamichi Mtns. in Eastern Oklahoma and is with child #2 from Mr. Brown when she marries a W.M. Hargis (perviously married and has 3 children of his own) in Idabel Oklahoma in Dec. 1918. Child # 2 is born in December 1918 in Oklahoma. Lilly, who is now a Hargis, is not found on the 1920 Federal Census unless we missed her somehwhere with her family. In 1922, Lilly gives birth to a third daugher, Ruth Hargis in Duncan, Stevens County, Oklahoma. 1928 sees Lilly as filing for divorce from Mr. Hargis in Altus, Jackson County, Oklahoma and then she marries a J.W. Kirby (a blind man) in Sept. 1929 and dies of blood poisoning in October 1929. She is buried in Altus, Oklahoma. Can someone please give me information on the customs/consequences of Indians marrying white men ? Does anyone relate to this family? Do the women of the various Indian tribes go by their maiden names or married names on the census rolls? Is it true that the women always carry their mothers last names when enumerated? Needing lots of help. Joanne

Just last night I was reading an article about that. It pertained to the Choctaws and varied in different "clans" of the choctaw people. But some did marry more than once, usually to a sister or other family member of the wife. It was at the request of the wife, usually because the sister had lost her husband or circumstances such that. This practice was stopped around mid 1800s I think, if I remember correctly. It didn't mention a limit on the number of wives. All the wives shared the same duties and privileges as the first original wife except one. Only the first wife was allowed to share the eating bowl of the husband. Divorce was varied also, but the process was simple. If you want to read this info, I'll find the URL for you. Just let me know. Shelley

I have a question...was it still fairly common for our Indian ancestors to have more than one wife in the early to mid 1800's? If so, was there a "limit" to the number of wives? Jeanne, researching the COBB surname in Indian Territory.

Copied from 1988 Ky Ancestors, A Query James Norton b. 1761 Md, s/o Wm Norton Sr b 1716 Md and Eleanor Stonestreet .Served Rev War from Lincoln Co Ky married Nancy ??Norton of Clark Co Ky and were parents of Edward Norton b 1775 Ky died 1820 Tenn, married Eleanor(Nellie) Bibson (Cherokee born Ky) whose children were born Ky and grew up in Tenn,probably at Cherokee Village,Macon Co. Apparent error in birth dates(father/son). There is a little more on James if this sparks interest from anyone, is not proven,but may help someone. Marion

I would like the owner of the Indian-Territory-Roots-L @rootsweb.com to please contact me so I may unsub. out of my old email #. My new email # is already in place therefore rootsweb doesn't recognize my new # and therefore replys "I was not a member." I sub'd under my new email number and I need your assistance in unsubbing under my old number. Martha Braswell Overstreet c1772 NC dcd 1845 Wayne Co.MS w Sarah Buie bGA, [dau] Elmyra Overstreet c1809 Wayne Co. MS, w John Blackledge c1793/94 SC., [son] Zachariah Blackledge c1830 Jones Co. MS.dcd 6 Oct,1862 [CSA] Vicksburg w Mary Pate 1853 Clark Co. MS, [dau] Mary Susanne Blackledge 1860/62 Leon Co.TX. w John Gressett Leon Co. TX., [dau] Martha [Mattie] Penn Gressett b TX w James Franklin Cook 1911 Leon Co. TX, [dau,me] Martha Eveline Cook.

Joni, What a wonderful project. Thanks for your time and dedication! JLVSTOCK@aol.com wrote: > I have been transcribing Biographies from the History of Indian Territory, > 1901. With the direction and support of Marti at Rootsweb, this site is on > its way! This book is packed with good genealogical data for both Indian and > Non-Indian Individuals. My dedication is to post the Bio's with any hint of > Native American ancestry first. So keep checking this site for possible > ancestors! >

Hello to all, Does anyone here know of a Ben Strickler born probably after 1850. He may have moved from Arkansas to Oklahoma. He was my g grandfather. My g grandmother was Maggie/Margaret/Sissy Downing. He was said to have just disappeared. I found in the Ft. Smith records at NAIL? that a man named Ben Strickler appeared before a judge there. If I obtain these records what would they indicate, besides his offense and his fine. I have his interview with Dawes but it gives little information about him He was denied. Where do I start when researching a man who "just" disappeared? Thank you in advance for any information you can give me. Edwina

To find the location and size of towns, try this site. It is real helpful. http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html June Terry Johnson Hughes county, Oklahoma aggran@chickasaw.com -----Original Message----- From: Della Bailey <sunegle2@discoverynet.com> To: Indian-Territory-Roots-L@rootsweb.com <Indian-Territory-Roots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 8:12 AM Subject: Re: Wynnewood OK >Could someone tell me about a Cemetery at Wynnewood that was moved? My >children's G-Grandmother was buried there. Haven't been able to find out >much >don't know where it was moved to. How big is Wynnewood? >Thanks Della >

Goodmorning. rcd my newsletter from I.T. this a.m. but all messages did not come thru. Several wrote to list but only a couple of messages rcd. Martha Braswell Overstreet c1772 NC dcd 1845 Wayne Co.MS w Sarah Buie bGA, [dau] Elmyra Overstreet c1809 Wayne Co. MS, w John Blackledge c1793/94 SC., [son] Zachariah Blackledge c1830 Jones Co. MS.dcd 6 Oct,1862 [CSA] Vicksburg w Mary Pate 1853 Clark Co. MS, [dau] Mary Susanne Blackledge 1860/62 Leon Co.TX. w John Gressett Leon Co. TX., [dau] Martha [Mattie] Penn Gressett b TX w James Franklin Cook 1911 Leon Co. TX, [dau,me] Martha Eveline Cook.

I just sent a request for lookup in old IT marriage records with names and forgot to put an approximate year, sorry. Janice c1890 Mary Eliz. MCCALL and Alfred R. WOLFINGTON

If anyone has early IT marriage records I would appreciate a lookup for: Mary Elizabeth MCCALL and Alfred R. WOLFINGTON Thanks, Janice taylojm@aol.com

I have been transcribing Biographies from the History of Indian Territory, 1901. With the direction and support of Marti at Rootsweb, this site is on its way! This book is packed with good genealogical data for both Indian and Non-Indian Individuals. My dedication is to post the Bio's with any hint of Native American ancestry first. So keep checking this site for possible ancestors! Along with typing up the Bio's, I'm including the Territory Towns. These sections tell you a bit about that town and their first settlers or about a few of those who lived there around mid-1800's to 1901. I have also listed the surnames included in that Town description, for my fellow Genealogists. Listed below are the Bio's and Town Summaries currently posted. This is just a small sampling of what is in this book, I'll be adding Bio's/Towns to this site several times each week [there are over 900 of them]. The MAIN "SUBJECT" is highlighted; additional surnames found within that Bio are listed afterwards. You can READ current and future transcribed BIO's at this site: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Special/Gideon1901Bios You can also do a SURNAME SEARCH within this project. Search engines are accessible from this main website. Many sincere Thank You's to Marti and all at RootsWeb for setting up this site! Enjoy! Joni Valley Stockinger =========================================================== •CHICKASAW TOWNS: WYNNEWOOD Surnames: ANSTINE, BOOZIER, BUCKLEY, BURWELL, CLARK, CURRIE, EUBANKS, EVERYTT, KIZER, McGREGOR, RYAN, WALKER, WALMER •CHICKASAW TOWNS: DAVIS Surnames: ALLEN, BLYTHE, CHIGLEY, DARBY, DAVIS, DENTON, EDWARD, EDWURM, FERGUSON, FRAME, GIBSON, HEMMING, HUTCHINS, LOVELL, McCLUSKEY, McINTOSH, MYERS, PARKER, PAULK, POOLE, WALKER, WOLF •CHEROKEE TOWNS: TAHLEQUAH : Surnames: ALBERTY, BENGE, BLAKE, BOYLES, BUSHYHEAD, COODY, CUNNINGHAM, DELANO, FOREMAN, GREEN, HUDSON, HUGHES, LOWERY, MURRELL, ROSS, SELZER, SHIELDS, STAPLES, TAYLOR, THOMPSON, TRAP, VANN, WARD, WILSON, WOLF •CHOCTAW TOWNS: STERRETT : Surnames: BLACK, BOWLES, DENNIS, HORNBUCKLE, LOVETT, MAJORS, MESSENGER, MOORE, SPEAKS, STERRETT, STEWARD, STEWART, WHISENANT, WILKINSON, WOMACK, WOFFORD •CREEK TOWNS: EUFAULA : Surnames: AHRENS, BAILEY, BARNWALL, BELCHER, BERTRAM, BOUDINOT, BROWN, BUCKNER, BUTLER, BYRD, COODY, CRABTREE, EDMOND, EMARTHLA, FOLEY, GIBSON, GRAYSON, INGRAM, ISBELL, JUMPER, LOWE, McALVEY, McCOODY, McCURTAIN, McGEE, McINTOSH, MOORE, MORHART, PERRYMAN, PORTER, PURDOM, ROSS, SCALES, SIMPSON, STANDLEY, STEVENS, STIDHAM, TURNER, WHITLOW, WHITNEY, WILSON, WINN •ELIAS McLEOD LANDRUM : Surnames: CRUTCHFIELD, RODGERS, HOWARD, JENNINGS, ADAIR, SANDERS, WOODALL •RUFUS M. ALLEN, M.D. Surnames: ALLEN, CHILDRESS, COBLE, JOURNEYCAKE, KILLINGSWORTH •JOSEPH M. THOMPSON, M.D. Surnames: CARR, ELLIOTT, TAYLOR •JAMES WHITE, SHE-CON-NOC-QUAH : Surnames: WHITE, WARD, STANLEY, JONES, Lene Pee She Yah, Wah Pah Ki Quah, Mea Dea Zah •AMOS H. HAYES : Surnames: HAYES, HOPITUBBY, LEADER, McKINNIE, BURSE •Mrs. NANCY (BUSHYHEAD) McNAIR : Surnames: BUSHYHEAD, McNAIR, WILKERSON, PALMER •NOAH McGILL : Surnames: McGILL, McGEE, BRINDER •LEWIS LINDSAY : Surnames: LINDSAY, HUNT, McCAUGHEY, MURRAY, POWELL •Mrs. ALZIRA (McCAUGHEY) MURRAY : Surnames: McCAUGHEY, MURRAY, DIBRELL, MITCHELL, FULSOM, POWELL, LINDSAY •ENDYMION F. GRAHAM, M.D. : Surnames: GRAHAM, DOAKE, LINDSEY, FREEMAN •DANIEL WEBSTER VANN : Surnames: VANN, EATON, RILEY, ROWE •RICHARD M. WALKER : Surnames: WALKER, PETTIT •OLIVER JOHN ENSWORTH : Surnames: ENSWORTH, DAGNETTE, DAGENETT, BLACK, BEAVER, LABADIE, SICOTT, PEORIA •HON. HENRY C. ROSS : Surnames: ROSS, HILDEBRAND, CAMERON, FISHER, PETTITT, BRYAN •JOSEPHINE (Moose-Bourassa) VALLEY : Surnames: VALLEY, BOURASSA, MOSE, MOOSE, HARRIS, TRUMBLEY •DANIEL JOHN BOURASSA : Surnames: BOURASSA, MOSE, MOOSE, VALLEY, HARRIS •JOHN R. PRICE : Surnames: PRICE, BLACKBURN, MERRILL, ROSS, WOLF, CUNNINGHAM, McDONALD, CRITTENDEN, BREWER, ROACH •FRANCIS BARTON FITE, M.D. : Surnames: DAVIS, DENMAN, PATTON, THOMPSON •HON. ELI PERRY : Surnames: SPRING, CARTER, GANNON, BIRD •ROBERT CLARK McGEE : Surnames: McGEE, THOM, HAMPTON, ROBERTSON •J. M. CAMPBELL : Surnames: CAMPBELL, FOSTER, FURGE, JONES, WHITE, BEDINGFIELD, JONES •TOM C. FIELDS : Surnames: FIELDS, RADER •WILLIAM L. CAMPBELL : Surnames: CAMPBELL, HOLT, WAGGONER •WILLIAM WALLACE CAMPBELL, MD : Surnames: CAMPBELL, HOLT, SCOTT, KIDDY, SALONE, MITCHELL, EVANS, MORGAN, WIEM, WAGGONER, STEGALL, BOX, JUNKINS, SHANKS, COTTNER

My search is for the origins of Rebecca E. McKinney b. June 1846 in Texas. She is known to be "part" Native American by family members who knew her. She married Thomas J. Donaldson and died in Milam Co Tx in 1915. Her father Uriah Newton McKinney married Elizabeth Norton in 1843 in Fannin Co Tx, he later had two more marriages. My question ---Who was the "Indian"? Uriah was born Tenn,have never made connection with any family,although many McKinneys settled in Milam Co Tx.from Tenn/Ala. Uriah served in the Mexican War and Civil War, is described as large man dark hair etc. No connection for Nortons. Was Elizabeth or Uriah from Indian Territory and married across Tx/Ok stateline,just across the river? Family stories tell of Rebecca's mother going back to her tribe,he got the children; Rebecca's mother was ill and he took the children and various versions of these.Rebecca told her grandsons that she did not live in a house as a young child. One elderly lady(grandchild of Rebecca) said that her grandfather met her grandmother at a springs; he hauled freight and would pass this place where he met Rebecca and her sister Minerva McKinney. I know that there were two reservations on Brazos River in or near Milam Co.although have yet to see any records. Uriah McKinney and Elizabeth Norton had Minerva (J.M.) 1844 and Rebecca E 1846 and possible Amanda 1850. Uriah and Melissa Unknown had Leynoa/Texoma 1853,Augustus 1856,Chesley 1858,Sarah 1860.He later married Elizabeth Lester ,widow,later in life. Children or Rebecca and Tom Donaldson were T.E. 1852(female,d. young?),W.U.male 1855(d.young?),Claude 1858,John Flemning 1882 Cleburn Chesley 1884. I know this is a long shot but included names etc in the event that it may matter to someone. I know no tribe name,no definite place of origin,no other family names.prior to this period of time. Wishing me luck, Marion Donaldson

Could someone tell me about a Cemetery at Wynnewood that was moved? My children's G-Grandmother was buried there. Haven't been able to find out much don't know where it was moved to. How big is Wynnewood? Thanks Della momdsb wrote: > We are planning a research trip this summer and would like to find the > location--if it is still there--in Wynnewood where my husband's > grandparents were married. Neither of them were from Wynnewood; where > would they have gotten married? Was there a church (or churches) in > Wynnewood in 1901? Or would they have gone to the minister's house? > Any input and/or ideas would be great. Thanks, Donna S. Boyd

Still looking for ancestors and descendants of J.P. THOMPSON, born abt. 1834 in Al. married Frances SPENCER, born abt. 1840 in Ar. They had 11 children. Related names are, BYRD, STARK, SMITH, SPENCER, BUNCH, GOSS, ALLEN. Will share what information I have with anyone who is interested in these families. Dale Thompson

Reggie ult. is abrev. for "ultimo" which is Latin for "last" inst. is abrev. for "instant" which indicates the current close date In a message dated 1/18/1999 9:05:40 PM, reggio@flash.net writes: >I have been reading old 1800s newspapers and find they put in their >obituaries some strange initials. Such as the date maybe 29th. ult or 29th >inst.

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I'm not sure I can help but there are alot of similarites in your names/places and mine. Amanda SMITH b @ 1835 NC md. George Dumas MOORE they lived in 1859-64 NC, 1865 TN, 1869-70 KY, 1871-1883/4 TN, 1885 Paris, TX or/and Tarrant, TX 1888 Ok. Ind. Terr. named a son Rufus Edgar MOORE "Ruffie" or "Ruthie" or "Windy" (All were used) he lived in Garvin Co. OKLA and md. Cordelia "Della" THOMPSON who had a sis Louada "Ada" ADA is a common name in my family as is Effie or Ethel. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: CIIISIII@aol.com <CIIISIII@aol.com> To: Indian-Territory-Roots-L@rootsweb.com <Indian-Territory-Roots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 9:51 AM Subject: HUFF/COVINGTON/SMITH Hello List, I am glad I found and joined this list. I have learned quite a lot from the interesting posts and feel some of you may be able to enlighten me in my search. For many years I have been searching for the background and history of my Grandmother's family. All knowledgables that were living never knew, or knew and weren't telling....now they are all gone. Yet, I have oral story clues and some data I've ferreted over the years. I was raised in Oklahoma, and my family roots are deep there, but it will be sometime before I can visit the places they lived and check out records, in the meantime I have been researching online for about 4yrs. I am researching SMITH, COVINGTON and HUFF. Ruffus SMITH b.? d.? married Molly (Mollie) HUFF in Tarrant Co. TX abt 1870 Children: *Effie b. abt 1873 Tarrant Co.TX. d. 6 Mar 1958 Wynnewood, Garvin Co. OK m. Thomas Jefferson COVINGTON b. abt 1855 d. 1931 in Powell, Garvin Co. OK. *Mattie m. Mr. RUCKER *Ada married several times *Jack m. Alice Martha KATES Rufus Smith was buried in Murray Co. they moved his grave before the filling of Lake Texoma. Mollie Huff-Smith lived out her life in Roff, Potontac Co. OK Rufus served on the Confederate Indian Forces. He got captured, and was to be hanged.Mollie road all night with an important indian said to be a relative to save Rufus from the hangman's noose. I have been recently told there is a History of Oklahoma book ( I don't know which one) with a photograph of several indian Chiefs posing together, and it was pointed out to Archibald (Unc.Archie) Covington the Chief that saved his grandfather's life. Jack Smith and Alice Kates-Smith lived in Roff and Rosedale, Potontac Co.OK While living in north Texas Effie heard news that Indian Land claim hearings where to be held in Muskgoee, OK. She convinced husband Tom to take her to Muskogee to file an indian land claim about 1909. Her claim was entered and rejected. Family story: During the court proceedings in Muskogee, the Huff brothers, upset over the Judges proceedings, rode their horses into the court room discharging their pistols..the Judge retreated out the back door. Reconvening the next day,the Judge gaveled down Effies land claim. Rufus SMITH: #24917 - Guion Miller Roll. Mollie HUFF: Dawes Roll - Census Card #R737 ( I believe the R is for Rejected) Effie (SMITH) COVINGTON: #20363 - daugt. of Mollie Huff-Smith. Applicant on the Guion Miller Roll. She listed Georgia as state of origin. Covington's were originally from GA. ============= Effie SMITH b. abt 1873 Tarrant Co.TX. d. 6 Mar 1958 Wynnewood, Garvin Co.OK m. Thomas Jefferson COVINGTON b. abt 1855 d. 1931 in Powell, Garvin Co. OK. Thomas Jefferson Covington came from GA with his brother James ('Jim') to Tyler, TX abt 1870. Thomas was an early day, deputy marshall in Indian Territory Oklahoma. He either served under the juristiction of 1) Judge Issac C. Parker's Federal Court for the Western District of Arkansas in Fort Smith, Arkansas, OR 2) Federal District Court in Paris, Texas. In Ardmore, Indian Territory OK about 1889 -1890, he met and married Effie Smith. She was his second wife. First wife Unknown-Children Unknown Children of Thomas Jefferson Covington and Effie Smith: *Edna Maybel b. 28 Mar 1894 d. 27 Nov 1986 m. Claude Marion Shawbell,SR. on 20 Sep 1913 by Justice of Peace, Walter Beard on the Beard Farm, near Wynnewood (formerly Walner Township), Garvin Co., OK. *Robert Archibald b. 8 Aug 1895 d. Jul 1979 m. Stella BELL b. 10 Oct 1899 d. 1981. *Eulalia 'Lalia' b.19 Apr 1898 d. Dec 1987 m. Ellis BELL b. 1895 d. 1935 2nd Husb. Bruce WHITAKER. Thanks, Claude in AZ Pls Visit: <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/ciiisiii/claudesgenealogy/claude.htm">Claudes Genealogy Page</A>

Hi, I have been reading old 1800s newspapers and find they put in their obituaries some strange initials. Such as the date maybe 29th. ult or 29th inst. Can anyone tell me what these initials mean. Thank you, Maxine in Oklahoma

Can someone in Oklahoma do a look up for me in the Indian rolls? Mary Muse