********** replying to Kathie Donahue: >I am a worker in an FHC and have been for over 14 years. The scripture upon >which the LDS gnealogy effort is based is in the Old Testament Malachi, >chapter 4...to paraphrase: .... ...snipping.... > >Meaning, Elijah the prophet of ancient times will return to the earth >(actually has already returned) and bring with him the keys for the sealings >of families to each other in holy temples of the earth. The promises made ************ Just for everyone that might be interested - I fully believe that one must take each verse in the Bible in context with the what is written. Therefore I submit below the full chapter of Malachi 4. Just to make sure everyone understands - Christian church's use various bibles - New International Version, King James Version, New King James Version, American Standard Version, etc. These various versions have been created to be more readable and understandable to some. We Christians all have our favorite versions. Malachi chapter 4 "Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and that day that is coming will set them on fire, says the Lord Almighty. "Not, a root or a branch will be leftr to them. But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. And you will go out and leap like calves released from the stall. Then you will trample down the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I do these things," says the Lord Almighty. "Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Horeb for all Israel. Malachi 4:5-6 actually states "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the Lord comes. (6) He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse." Jacque - Kee-ta-na Sacramento, CA † Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. Psalm 119:105

Hi, Am searching for any connections (relatives or others) and information on a few families from the Pottawatomie County OK area. The major names are Joseph Blackstone Deen, William Wallace Melott, and any connection to the Gierhart family who lived in or near Shawnee between 1890-1910. Melott had two wives, the first was Naoma Gierhart, who must have died young, possibly after childbirth. She had one son, Charles R. Melott. W.W. Melott then married again to Myrtle ? and they had several children. They are all listed on the Citizen Pottawatomie Nation rolls. If the names sound familiar and you would like more details, let me know and I will provide them. Thanks! Shelly Henley Kelly Galveston TX shelly@rosenberg-library.org

Thanks for the information. Keep in mind, I'm asking this strictly for informational purposes. I'm anti religious in my beliefs, so my purpose is not to determine if I'd like to join the church, etc. ;-) However, I'm curious about this practice and the LDS church has contributed so much to genealogical research, I think we should know this. :-) replying to Kathie Donahue: >I am a worker in an FHC and have been for over 14 years. The scripture upon >which the LDS gnealogy effort is based is in the Old Testament Malachi, >chapter 4...to paraphrase: .... ...snipping.... > >Meaning, Elijah the prophet of ancient times will return to the earth >(actually has already returned) and bring with him the keys for the sealings >of families to each other in holy temples of the earth. The promises made Now, this is what I don't understand. Everyone has used the term "to seal" or "sealing" to explain (I think) how teh LDS members get to be with their relatives in their heaven. But what is "sealing"? What does it really do? What do they do to insure those ansestors, who may or may not have been LDS members get to be with them in heaven? Is there a ceremony where they read the names or whatever and then they are "sealed" (will be in heaven with) the member? ...snipping.... >Hope this helps. >Kathie Donahue It did. It provided some history/background I didn't know. :-) Thank you, :-) acp ******* "Too many stupid people. Too few comets." ******** *********************************************************************** * A. Collene Pearce * Austin, TX, USA * * email: collene@jumpnet.com * http://www.jumpnet.com/~collene * ***********************************************************************

I can't tell if this came from the list or not. I know the person meant to send it to the list, because she asks for comments/corrections from list members. acp replying to Kathie Donahue: >From bkdonahue@icehouse.net Tue Feb 9 13:52:09 1999 >X-Sender: "Bkdonahue" <bkdonahue@icehouse.net> >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 >To: collene@jump.net (Collene Pearce) >From: bkdonahue@icehouse.net (Kathie Donahue) >Subject: Re: LDS FHC why?? >Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:06:40 -0800 >Message-Id: <19990209120640.037b678a.in@mail.icehouse.net> >Dear Collene: > >I am a worker in an FHC and have been for over 14 years. The scripture upon >which the LDS gnealogy effort is based is in the Old Testament Malachi, >chapter 4...to paraphrase: And I will send you the prophet Elijah before >the great and terrible day of the Lord and he will turn the hearts of the >fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to the fathers, lest >the earth be smitten with a curse. > >Meaning, Elijah the prophet of ancient times will return to the earth >(actually has already returned) and bring with him the keys for the sealings >of families to each other in holy temples of the earth. The promises made >to Abraham are made to all those baptized members of the House of Israel of >all time who have been baptized according to holy ordinance....that is what >is meant by the hearts of the fathers turning....the promises are there for >their children. The turning of the hearts of the children is their >acceptance of these promises and holy ordinances as they enter into sacred >covenants which will encable them to be sealed to their parents, their >children, their spouses and their family lineages for all time and >eternit....that their family relationships will exist in God's Celestial >kingdom as they have had on earth. > >But these links are dependant upon proper recorded information upon the >earth...hence the effort to collect and store data on the part of faithful >LDS members since the 1830's. > >I hope I have increased your understanding. Other LDS members may wish to >correct me on certain points and I hope they will, if I am in error in any >way here. > >By the way...the Indigenous races of the world, particularly the American >Indian peoples, both North and South, are of special interest to the LDS >church. The LDS scripture, the Book of Mormon, is the early history of many >of the tribes in the Western Hemisphere. > >Hope this helps. > >Kathie Donahue > >P.S. A friend passed this on to me: Diana Hanson, CEO and Dean of Faculty >and Staff - Iowa Digital Education Association, Professional Genealogist, >Listowner GENCLASS-L@rootsweb.com writes that she will be starting an >on-line American Indian Genealogy class in a few weeks. Being only a year >old in on-line genealogy, I haven't seen this before. Sounds interesting so >I think I will tune in and see what is said. > >> >>Years ago, when I first started my genealogy research, >>someone introduced me to the material the Church of >>the LDS had compiled. At the time, I was told the >>whole story of why they compiled it, but now my >>memory is dim. ;-) I remember they search to find >>ancestors to "seal" to themselves, thereby being able ot >>be with them in heaven, but I don't remember how they >>believe that works or what this sealing process involves. >>Can someone please refresh my memory? >> >> >>:-) >>acp >>******* "Too many stupid people. Too few comets." ******** >>*********************************************************************** >>* A. Collene Pearce * Austin, TX, USA * >>* email: collene@jumpnet.com * http://www.jumpnet.com/~collene * >>*********************************************************************** >> >Kathie Donahue, Spokane, WA > > :-) acp ******* "Too many stupid people. Too few comets." ******** *********************************************************************** * A. Collene Pearce * Austin, TX, USA * * email: collene@jumpnet.com * http://www.jumpnet.com/~collene * ***********************************************************************

Greetings, My name is Ed Roberts and I'm new to this list. I'm searching for the following surnames: ROBERTS, SHIPMAN, LONG, ALLEN and FREEMAN. some of their marriages were to HOWARD, BARNES, and FULBRIGHT. Specific areas they lived were, Sallisaw, Akins, Webbers Falls, Sugar Loaf area, Choctaw Nation, Long and other places in these general areas that are no longer on the map. Ed

I believe in God. I have my own religion (Baptist). I read my on bible & I say my own prays. I do not feel that my genealogy research needs to be a sermon from LSD. I don't condemn their belief & what they do. More power to them. I don't preach to them! I don't feel this is right place for them to preach to us. We are here for looking for our ancestors. Not to be preached to! I am sure some of my ancestors were LDS.I would love history on them. But I do not need to be preached to. If this Offends any one then remove me from you list! Barbara

T all, I'am trying to prove my ggg grandmother was Choctaw Indian, is there another microfilm that I can look at. I looked at the Dawes Rolls but didn't find her or her parents on it. She was born in 1860,Union Co.,Tn. Her name is Melvina E. Monday. Thanks, Al

Hello all, I know this is kinda off the subject but this will only take a second. There will be a Family Reunion of the Sixkiller Family in Tahlequah, Okla. on Labor Day Sept. 1999. Everyone is supposed to meet at Northeastern State University. Thankyou, and I hope all you inlaws & outlaws can make it. Johnnie J. Sixkiller Alberton, Mt. 59820

Please correct birth date for John Marshall Boles. His birth date should 1835 (not 1875). Excuse Typo. Thanks Sandra Boles Haugner

I am reposting my Boles message with a couple corrections. Somewhere someone is looking for this information: "Looking for others related to the following family: (ggrandparents) John Marshall Boles b 1835* married Penny Eliza Tyler: Had the following children: Mattie b 1858, Joseph Redrick b 1863, Romulus (Rome) b 1865, John Frank b 1867 or 68, Samuel b 1869, Julia b 1871, Louisa b 1873, and Mary Caroline (Callie) b 1876. My ggrandfather Joseph Redrick Boles m Manerva Cairns Rogers and had the following children (most born in I.T.): Dennis b 1886, Tempie b 1888, Willie A. b 1889, Viola b 1892, Lester b 1896, Charles Edgar b 1901, Maybelle b 1905. My grandfather Charles Edgar Boles m Lenora Ray Boles b 1905 (in California) m in 1920 California and had the following children (all born in CA): Cecil Roy b 1922, Hazel b 1923, Joseph Ray b 1925, Charles Edgar Jr. b 1927 My father Joseph Ray Boles m Lillian Genevieve Henslick b 1926, married in 1944. Family mostly went to California 1919-1920. Some stayed behind in OK and AR. Family settled in Southern Califonria - Orange County, San Diego, etc." 1860 Census has John Marshall and Eliza in Sugar Loaf Township in Sebastian Couty Arkansas. In 1880 census show Elisa in Daton Township, Sebastian County. Joseph and Manerva both born in Ar? lived in IT when most of their children were born. Sandra Boles Haugner

Looking for others related to the following family: (ggrandparents) John Marshall Boles b 1875 married Penny Eliza Tyler: Had the following children: Mattie b 1858, Joseph Redrick b 1863, Romulus (Rome b 1865, John Frank b 1867 or 68, Samuel b 1869, Julia b 1871, Louisa b 1873, and Mary Caroline (Callie) b 1876. My ggrandfather Joseph Redrick Boles m Manerva Cairns Rogers and had the following children (most born in I.T.): Dennis b 1886, Tempie b 1888, Willie A. b 1889, Viola b 1892, Lester b 1896, Charles Edgar b 1901, Maybelle b 1905. My grandfather Charles Edgar Boles m Lenora Ray Boles b 1905 (in California) m in 1920 California and had the following children (all born in CA): Cecil Roy b 1922, Hazel b 1923, Joseph Ray b 1925, Charles Edgar Jr. b 1927 My father Joseph Ray Boles m Lillian Genevieve Henslick b 1926, married in 1944. Family mostly went to California 1919-1920. Some stayed behind in OK and AR. Family settled in Southern Califonria - Orange County, San Diego, etc.

Does anyone know the History behind the Hogan School near Pryor OK in Mayes county? What type of School was it? How did it get its name? I am wondering if it is in any history books?

From: "Myra Vanderpool Gormley" <myravg@netamerica.com> To: "KARLA KT SHAHAN" <ktshahan@juno.com>, <OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:53:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [TINKER-L] FHC going Online! Message-ID: <001a01be55df$1c4674c0$f784e59b@a> The information about the FHL going online, is confusing and not accurate. People are misunderstanding what the BYU article said and what is meant by "files" in this this story's context. The "files" are reference to AncestralFile -- not the actual files (microfilmed records). There are rumors that the FHL Catalog will be put online -- perhaps this year, but I have not been able to get confirmation of that. Most of the records at the FHL (and thus via the FHCs) are in microform -- film and fiche -- and probably will be that for some time. Myra Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG <myra_gormley@prodigy.com> <myravg@netamerica.com> Co-editor of RootsWeb Review and Missing Links <http://www.rootsweb.com/~review/index.htm> <http://www.rootsweb.com/~mlnews/index.htm> Home Page: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gormleym/index.htm> ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_918779319_boundary Content-ID: <0_918779319@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone recognize the following names: They are brothers and sisters and children of my gg grandfather - William Hanley Merritt: Nancy Elizabeth Merritt born 1870 TN husband A.F. Bartlett; John Richard Merritt born 1862 TN wife Martelia Stacey; Solomon Timothy Merritt born 1871 TN wife Minnie Johnson; or James Albert Merritt born 1863 TN wife Mary Nixon. They all moved to Indian Territory shortley after 1900 or before 1900 and I would like to know if they are on the 1900 or 1910 census for Indian Territory if anyone can do a lookup for me. Would also like to correspond with other relatives. Robie --part0_918779319_boundary Content-ID: <0_918779319@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <> Received: from rly-yd05.mx.aol.com (rly-yd05.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.5]) by air-yd02.mx.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:25:18 -0500 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by rly-yd05.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id TAA25985 for <RJLOR@aol.com>; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost) by imo26.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) with internal id TAA00103; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:25:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:25:17 -0500 (EST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@aol.com> Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-Id: <199902120025.TAA00103@imo26.mx.aol.com> To: RJLOR@aol.com Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The original message was received at Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:19:41 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost *** ATTENTION *** An e-mail you sent to an Internet destination could not be delivered. The Internet address is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your e-mail could not be delivered is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to the e-mail administrator or Postmaster at that destination. ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <indian-territory-roots-1@rootsweb.com> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to bl-3.rootsweb.com.: >>> RCPT To:<indian-territory-roots-1@rootsweb.com> <<< 550 <indian-territory-roots-1@rootsweb.com>... User unknown 550 <indian-territory-roots-1@rootsweb.com>... User unknown ----- Original message follows ----- Received: from RJLOR@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id JBQa000808 for <indian-territory-roots-1@rootsweb.com>; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:19:40 +1900 (EST) From: RJLOR@aol.com Return-path: <RJLOR@aol.com> Message-ID: <68c3d9d5.36c3739c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:19:40 EST To: indian-territory-roots-1@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Merritt Families of Indian Territory Oklahoma Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Does anyone recognize the following names: They are brothers and sisters and children of my gg grandfather - William Hanley Merritt: Nancy Elizabeth Merritt born 1870 TN husband A.F. Bartlett; John Richard Merritt born 1862 TN wife Martelia Stacey; Solomon Timothy Merritt born 1871 TN wife Minnie Johnson; or James Albert Merritt born 1863 TN wife Mary Nixon. They all moved to Indian Territory shortley after 1900 or before 1900 and I would like to know if they are on the 1900 or 1910 census for Indian Territory if anyone can do a lookup for me. Would also like to correspond with other relatives. Robie --part0_918779319_boundary--

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Someone posted yesterday or today the following information. I sent it along to a Bowles/Boles researcher who is not on this list. Unfortunately, I cut off the name of the sender when I copied/pasted. The researcher believes this information may be extremely important to her research, she has lots of Bowles/Boles material. Would whoever posted please contact me either her or private email. Thanks. Looking for others related to the following family: (ggrandparents) John Marshal Boles b 1875 married Penny Eliza Tyler: Had the following children: Mattie b 1858, Joseph Redrick b 1863, <snip>

Looking for others related to the following family: (ggrandparents) John Marshal Boles b 1875 married Penny Eliza Tyler: Had the following children: Mattie b 1858, Joseph Redrick b 1863, Romulus (Rome b 1865, John Frank b 1867or 68, Samuel b 1869, Julia b 1871, Louisa be 1873, and Mary Caroline (Callie) b 1876. My ggrandfather Joseph Redrick Boles m Manerva Cairnes Rogers and had the following children (mostly born in I.T.): Dennis b 1886, Tempie b 1888, Willie A. b 1889, Viola B 1892, Lester b 1896, Charles Edgar b 1901, Maybelle b 1905. My grandfather Charles Edgar Boles m Lenora Ray Boles b 1905 (in California) m in 1920 California and had the following children (all born in CA): Cecil Roy b 1922, Hazel b 1923, Joseph Ray b 1925, Charles Edgar Jr. b 1927 My father Joseph Ray Boles m Lillian Genevieve Henslick b 1926, married in 1944. Family mostly went to California 1919-1920. Some stayed behind in OK and AR. Family settled in Southern Califonria - Orange County, San Diego, etc.

While I was at the FHC today, one of the other patrons who had one of the LDS church bulletins or newsletters said that the files will be online in MARCH! I couldn't believe it, but that's what he said. Carol McCoy

Their entire Library??

I heard the same thing on one of my other newslists. And someone said that they called the main library in Salt Lake and was given a confirmation on that rumor. Pretty cool, huh? Montique