I plan on heading to the library on this one, but does anyone know whether or not Fort Smith, ARK was once a part of OK/IT? My grandfather, John Monroe PHILLIPS, stated all his life that he was born in Oklahoma/Indian Territory in January 1890. This is even on his death certificate. His mother, Mattie (TAYLOR) PHILLIPS KELLEY, in 1951, filed a birth certificate for him, giving his place of birth as Reform, Saline Co., AR. (Talk about scandal) I later found out from family that they were in Fort Smith, AR, as were the second branch of my family, CATES. Does anyone know about this history regarding OK/IT? If this is a duplicate question, please forgive : ) Thanks for your help. Charlie Ward

Hello Everyone, Does anyone have any information about Mary Coodey, daughter of Daniel Ross Coodey and Amanda? She was their third child, born in 1856. Daniel was the brother of William Shorey Coodey, and son of Joseph and Jane Ross Coodey. ANY help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Jeri Macarow@ix.netcom.com

Can anyone tell me how the Choctaw punished within the tribe? Old family story relates that an ancestor, half breed, committed a crime, and to keep him from being punished by the Indians, his mother said he was white. Anybody know anything that might help clear this up some for me? Surely the indians were as fair as the whites when choosing punishments for the crimes.....Thanks if anyone can help.... Linda Oklahoma

http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ok/OkBios Use your browser 'find' feature - new entries will not be in the 'surname search' index for several days. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN BLUE LEE O. BROWN FRED F. BRYDIA J. C. GUNTER JOHN W. RILEY, M.D. CHARLES O. LIVELY GEORGE A. MORRISON, M. D. RICHARD A. SNEED SELWYN DOUGLAS GAVIN H. BUTLER, M.D. ALBERT F. STEWART JERRY P. O'MEARA MRS. LILAH D. LINDSEY JOHN NEWTON FLORER JOHN L. BIRD O. H. P. BREWER ANTON H. CLASSEN HON. DAN W. PATTON W. T. DODSON GUY E. BLACKWELDER JAMES SHANNON BUCHANAN JAMES W. ROGERS, M.D. LESLIE T. HUFFMAN HON. EVERETT B. HOWARD T. MYRON PYLE JOHN M. CLOVER HON. CHARLES B. STUART WILLIAM TILGHMAN WASHINGTON E. HUDSON EDGAR SAMUEL BRONSON ARLES A. ROGERS ELVA C. BARROWS H. A. LEDBETTER HORACE A. LEDBETTER JOHN A. SPIVEY LEWIS S. CLINE M. A. LOONEY WILLIAM JACKSON HOSKINS JAMES F. HICKEY HON. WILLIAM M. FRANKLIN ROSCOE D. LAHMAN WILLIAM T. MELTON THOMAS EMMETT SMILEY EDWARD TAYLOR ROBERTS ANDREW P. WATSON ROBERT F. BLAI Marti ____________________________________________ mailto:marti@rootsweb.com Marti Graham, OKGenWeb State Coordinator & Creek, LeFlore, Oklahoma Co. Coordinator http://www.usgenweb.org/ok OKGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/heartland/flats/6878/ R U an Angel Proud RootsWeb Donor+ "Dedicated to user supported access to genealogical records on the internet"

http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/pioneer.htm intereviews added David Milton Beaver Levina R. Beavers Andrew Jackson Berryhill Jeannie Selfridge Clarence Bearden Mrs. Mary Grayson Montie S. Davis Page Mayhew Church & Court Grounds Creek Schools ____________________________________________ mailto:marti@rootsweb.com Marti Graham, OKGenWeb State Coordinator & Creek, LeFlore, Oklahoma Co. Coordinator http://www.usgenweb.org/ok OKGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/heartland/flats/6878/ R U an Angel Proud RootsWeb Donor+ "Dedicated to user supported access to genealogical records on the internet"

Jan. There is an 1855 Choctaw Census, this was made for a per capita payment for land sold in western Choctaw Nation to establish a Chickasaw Nation. Doug Janice Gardner wrote: > Does anyone know if their was a roll of the Choctaw's in 1860? Or > sometime close to that? I am looking for Swift Mullin family. I have > Swift b 1775 and sons Swift b. 1817 & William Martin b 1808 in Franklin > county,TN. Someone told me they had seen the family on the Choctaw > rolls. > Thank you in advance for any help!! > Jan

Does anyone know if there was a roll of the Choctaw's in 1860? Or sometime close to that? I am looking for Swift Mullin family. I have Swift b 1775 and sons Swift b. 1817 & William Martin b 1808 in Franklin County, TN. Someone told me they had seen the family on the Choctaw rolls, and I would love to have that information. Thank you in advance for any help!! Jan

Does anyone know if their was a roll of the Choctaw's in 1860? Or sometime close to that? I am looking for Swift Mullin family. I have Swift b 1775 and sons Swift b. 1817 & William Martin b 1808 in Franklin county,TN. Someone told me they had seen the family on the Choctaw rolls. Thank you in advance for any help!! Jan

The exact meaning of the word KENTUCKY is not known. The term may have been a Wyandot word meaning "land of tomorrow" or an Iroquoian word that could be translated as "place of meadows." It does not mean "dark and bloody ground." That legend probably came from remarks made by Cherokee chiefs Dragging Canoe and Oconostota at Sycamore Shoals when Richard Henderson bought what rights the Cherokee had to a large part of Kentucky. "There is a dark cloud over that country,"Dragging Canoe reportedly warned, and Oconostota said to Daniel Boone as they parted, "Brother, we have given you a fine land, but I believe you will have much trouble settling it." A NEW HISTORY OF KENTUCKY.Lowell H. Harrison and James C. Klotter,The University Press of Kentucky,1997 p6.

Sandy, I read your post through IT-Roots-L and think I have some info for you on James E. Finney. I'm sending a little of it now and if you think it's your Finny line, let me know and I'll send you all of it. The excerpt below comes from the 1955 summer issue of The Chronicles of Oklahoma, XXXIII, No 2, p 254-255: "The family name of Finney is well known in the history of the Osages as well as the Cherokees. "Reminiscences of a Trader in the Osage Country" by the late James E. Finney appears in this issue of The Chronicles, and his nephew, Frank F. Finney, now of Oklahoma City, has contributed in this same issue the biography of "John N. Florer" whose wife was Anna Finney." Other names mentioned in this particular article are: Robert Finney, William F. Finney, Thomas McKean, Alfred Finney, David Finney, Frank F. Finney, John French Finney, John Edgar Finney, and W. D. Finney. Other names mentioned in this particular issue of the Chronicles are listed below. Jeanne Afraid of Beaver Aiken, Paul Armstrong, William Beach, Phebe Bear Tongue Beard, Nakia Beaver, Charley Beaver, George Beecher, Catherine Esther Bennett, Henry G Big Chief (AKA Kah-he-ka-tunka) Big Hill Joe (AKA Pawnee-no-pah-she & Governor Big Hill) Bigheart, James Bird, John L Black Dog Black Kettle Boudinot, Elias Brown, Catherine Brown, David Carter, Lydia Chetopah Chief Ah-que-mah-ku-the Clown Crooked Wrist Denton, John Dodge, Roderick, L. Drexel, Mary Katharine Dupret, Alfred Edwards, Thomas A Elliot, Franklin Fairfield Mission Finney, Alfred Finney, James Florer, John N (AKA Johnny Shinkah) Florer, Maud Frye, Myra Esther Gray, Aaron Half Leg Hard Rope Hartley, L. Ella Hartly, George N Haskett, Eva Haworth, William P. Hazen, William B Hiatt (Nah-hutsa-hi-kah) High Bank Hitchcock, Asa Hobson, Eber Hoyt, Miss Hudson, Peter Hunt, Lina B. Johnson, Clarissa Ketcham, Thomas Simpson Ketcham, William Henry Kirk, Charles Kirk, Rachel Leverett, Rose Catherine Lindsey, Lilah Denton Lines, Miss Locke, Victor Lockwood, Cassandra Sawyer Lockwood, Jesse McKellop, Jim McKellop, Susan Missions among the Sac & Fox Agency w/ map Montgomery, William B. Moving Behind (Mrs. Black Hawk) Nelson, George Newson, Joseph Newson, Martha Palmer, John Pa-pa-mea Pickering, John H Pollock, Minta Redfield, Abraham Requa, Emily Roll Down Saucy Chief (AKA Wa-ti-anka & Kah-he-ka-wati-anka) Sawyer, Moses Scabby Man Scudder, Margaret Simpson, Isaac and Martha Smith, Esther Spring, Bailey St. Agnes School of the Choctaws Statue Stetson, Ellen Strike Ax Test, Elizabeth The Iowa Missions The Kickapoo Mission Thrall, Cynthia Vaill, William F. Vinal, Job P. Washburn, Cephas Wolf Belly Woman (Mrs. John Otterby) Woodruff, Mr. & Mrs. Woolley, Harriet More names.... Adair, John Martin Bushyhead, Dennis Wolf Byham, Gottlieb Cheek, Mrs. Bertha Johnson Cherokee Orphan Home Chief Doublehead Chief Hanging Maw Chief Piomingo Dearborn, Henry Dwight Mission Finney, David Finney, David Thompson Finney, John Finney, John Edward Finney, John French Finney, Robert Finney, Thomas Finney, W. D. Lee, Daniel Webster Manley, Tarbie Meigs, Return J. McKean, Thomas Mayes, Jesse Bushyhead Mayes, Cherokee Adair Orr, James Pointer, Martha (Patsy) Mayes Robertson, James Seneca Indian School Smith, Daniel Splitlog, Mrs. Gorver Steiner, Abraham Tellico Terrell, Tryphena Vann, James Vickory Wafford's Settlement Walam Olum (Book Review) Watts, John

SURNAMES: POOL, WELLS, DANIEL(s?), PENDERGRASS, LEE and GREGORY. I am searching for info on the above six surnames (if you follow the lines they all were in NC/VA/TN/MO at one time or another - either by birth, marriage or death). Please excuse me if I am listing this wrong but I am posting to different lists for the info in different areas and I wanted to tie the families together so info I had did not have to be looked for again in certain areas, and to give starting points. Also, I have included in brackets and with ?? that info which I do not have and am seeking. There is family stories of there being NA and since I don't know exactly from (I suspect DANIEL(s?) and WELLS) I am hoping someone will recognize a name. Any and all help is greatly appreciated: Edward POOL (parents/siblings) dob abt 1720 ??, ?? Co., NC dod abt 1778 Muddy Creek, Rowan Co., NC wife Mary ?? (parents/siblings) dob abt 1720 ??, ?? Co., ?? dod abt 1790 ??, Grason Co., VA daughter Margaret POOL (siblings/spouse/children) dob abt 1753 ??, Rowan Co., NC dod aft 1790 ??, Grason Co., VA John WELLS (spouse/children) dob abt. 1710 ??, Richmond Co., VA dod abt 1760 ??,?? Co., ?? son Barnaby WELLS (siblings/children) dob Abt 1748 ??, ?? Co., ?? dom 29 Nov 1769 ??, ?? Rowen Co., NC dod abt 1822 ??, Grason Co., VA spouse Margaret POOL (see above) son Barnaby B. WELLS (siblings/children) dob abt. 1779 ??, Rowan Co., NC dom bef 1801 ??, ?? Co., NC? dod Sep 1853 spouse Anne ?? (parents/siblings/children) dob aft 1775 ??, ?? Co., ?? dod aft 1815 ??, ?? Co., ?? son Larkin WELLS (siblings/children) dob abt 1801 ??, ?? Co., VA dom 28 May 1829 ??, Grayson Co., MO dod aft 1860 ??, McMinn Co., TN? spouse Elizabeth DANIEL(s?) (mother/siblings/children - see below) daughter Saftronia Jane WELLS (siblings) dob abt. 1829 ??, ?? Co., NC dod 19 Oct 1897 Coon Ridge, ?? Co., MO spouse James Erven FINNEY (parents/siblings) dob abt 1828 ??, ?? Co., NC dom 25 Oct 1848 Athens?, McMinn Co., TN dod 19 Mar 1986 Coon Ridge, ?? Co., MO Zachariah DANIEL(S) (parents/spouse/siblings/children) dob aft. 1749 dod aft 1791 spouse ?? ?? dob ?? dod ?? daughter Elizabeth DANIEL (mother/siblings/children) dob aft. 1800 ??, ?? Co., ?? dod aft. 1860 ??, McMinn Co., TN John Eley PENDERGRASS Sr. (parents/siblings/spouse/children) dob abt 1803 ??, ?? Co., NC dod abt 1863 ??, ?? Co., TN spouse Elizabeth ?? (parents/siblings/children) dob ?? ??,?? Co., NC? dod ?? ??,?? Co., TN? son John Eley PENDERGRASS, Jr. (mother/siblings/children) dob 05 Mar 1827 ??, ?? Co., NC dom 18 Feb 1847 ??, ?? Co., TN dod 09 Jan 1863 Muffreesboro, ?? Co., TN spouse Martha Lee Elizabeth "Patsy" GREGORY (siblings/children - see below) Charles GREGORY (parents/siblings/spouse/children) son George GREGORY (mother/siblings/children) dob abt 1790 ??, ?? Co., VA dod abt 1876 ??, ?? Co., MO spouse Martha Elander "Nellie" LEE (parents/siblings/children) dob abt 1798 ??, ?? Co., NC dod abt 1876 ??, ?? Co, MO daughter Martha Lee Elizabeth "Patsy" GREGORY dob 20 Oct 1828 Pickville, ?? Co., TN dod 07 Oct 1913 Hurley, ?? Co., MO Thank you one and all for your assistance, Sandi ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Could any of you share any info you have on the Robersons of LeFlore Co., late 1800s? I am trying to find the parents of Eliza Jane Roberson, my great- grandmother. In the 1910 census, she's listed as 48 years old, married to Charlie Lippy and living in Shady Point, Ok. She is listed as white on that census but likely was not reporting Native American lineage on the part of either of her parents. Both white and Choctaw Robersons lived in Leflore County at that time. Eliza is not on the Choctaw rolls of 1902, but by that time she was married to Lippy. I can verify that she had lived in Ok at least 22 years prior to the 1910 census, but hearsay tells me she was there from childhood. As I don't know which were her parents, I'm checking out all Oklahoma Robersons. Her family is reportedly from Tennessee and/or Missouri. Liza died in Noel, MO, while visiting her married daughter around 1915, and is buried there. Thank you, Rhonda Jordan rlb119@aol.com

Here is the continuing...index of the Indian Pioneer Papers--Western History Collection---University of Oklahoma. The Indian Pioneer History Papers is a collection of interviews done in 1937 & 1938, which includes biographical data on both living and deceased persons of Indian and pioneer heritage whose lives have been important in the history of Oklahoma. There is also a collection of information on family customs, tribal histories, social organizations, folklore, legends, cemeteries, old trails, ferries, forts, trading centers and other unrecorded facts known only to oral tradition. VOLUME 66-----MICROFICHE #6016931------9 FICHE--- NAME ADDRESS NABORS, T.M. Hickory, OK NABORS, V.C. Pauls Valley, OK NAGLE, Patrick S.(Mrs) Oklahoma City, OK NAIL, Edward Durant, OK NAIL, George L. Hartshorne, OK NAIL, J.P. Chickasha, OK NAIL, William Poteau, OK NALLY, Jim F. Sulphur, OK NANCE, R.Y. Westville, OK NANCE, James T. Altus, OK NANCE, John Haskell, OK NARHARKEY, Sammie Tulsa, OK NASH, Burell Roff, OK NASH, John William Hobart, OK NASH, Sally (Love) Rentieville, OK NATION, Lottie Altus, OK NAVE, John Calvin Muskogee, OK NAVE, Mary Elisabeth Edmond, OK NEAD, Sophronia Wilburton, OK NEAL, George E. Hobart, OK NEAL, James P. No address given NEAL, R.D.(Mrs) Oklahoma City, OK NEAL, W.J. Mangum, OK NEELEY, Alice Cordell, OK NEELEY, George C. " " NEELEY, Rachel " " NEELLY, John B. No address given NEELY, Nemrod Kingfisher, OK NEFF, Lily M. Sentinel, OK NEHKA, Noel Sobol, OK NEIGHBORS, Lula Hartshorne, OK NELMS, William McAlester, OK NELSON, A.N. Pawnee, OK NELSON, Ella Mae Elk City, OK NELSON, Ellen P. Antlers, OK NELSON, Hattie Pierce Soper, OK NELSON, Implin (Mrs) Finley, OK NELSON, James L. Breckinridge, OK NELSON, Richard Antlers, OK NELSON, Sam Pawnee, OK NELSON, Solomon Antlers, OK NELSON, Theresa Ashford Soper, OK NETHERTON, T.G. Oklahoma City, OK NEVINS, Mary No address given NEVINS, Nero Tulsa, OK NEWBERRY, Guy Wilburton, OK NEWELL, Mary El Reno, OK NEWLAND, J.L. Frederick, OK NEWMAN, Arthur H. El Reno, OK NEWMAN, Cornelia " " " NEWMAN, Hannah L. Commerce, OK NEWMAN, Lee Miami, OK NEWMAN, Luella Hugo, OK NEWSOM, J.A.(Rev.) Alva, OK NEWSOME, Thomas Oscar Mill Creek, OK NEWSOME, William Jhue El Reno, OK NEWTON, Emma Washington, OK NEWTON, Ida Muskogee, OK TO BE CONTINUED...........

Becky, I don't really have any information for you about the Vian Area, but when I was in High School, I worked for the LeFlore County School Superintendents office. They had school census records beginning in 1930 or 1932. Because the records were in a small paper books for each school they were beginning to fall apart and I spent my time putting these records on the computer. These records were accepted by the Social Security office as proof of age, so we copied lots of records for people who didn't have birth certificates. You might check to see if the County has a County Superintendents office and if they might be able to access those records for you. Some counties no longer have any "dependent" school districts, so not many County Superintendents offices left, but someone should know where there records are kept now. Good Luck to you. Shelley

Looking for any information on William James WELTON. William James Welton b. Approx. 1870 in Indian territory d. 1916 in Atoka. m. 1894 in Atoka, It., to Ann CARR said to be Cherokee, after his death believed she married unknown CRABTREE. William James WELTON and Ann CARR had the following children: Emma Elizabeth WELTON b.Jan. 02, 1900 in Naxville, Indian Territory John Thomas WELTON b. Oct. 17, 1902 in the Coalgate/Atoka area of IT. Any information would be helpful. Thank you, Thomas Welton

Hi List! I belong on another list also and have found out there were school census' done in some other states. I was wondering if there were school census conducted in IT in the 1890's? I realize OK was not a state at that time, this is just a shot in the dark. I am aware of the Dwight Mission and will be checking records of theirs this month when I get to OKC. Does anyone know of any others in the Vian, Sequoyah Co. area? Thanks for any info. Becky (from FL)

I hope that this isn't considered an inappropriate post. Sometime in early 98, I was sent a couple of pages from The History of Adair County. The pages contained some information on to of my GGparents. I wrote to the Adair Gen. Society to see if I could purchase a copy of the booklet. I never received a reply. Two days ago, I recognized my label that I had put on an envelope with a .32 stamp. A .1 had been added and I received a letter saying that by popular demand, there was going to be a reprinting of the History. However, the cost and mailing is to be $50.. If someone has a copy of this History, I would like to e-mail some names of other ancestors to see if they are in this History. I don't want to spend $50 and get a history that only has information on the two GGparents that I already know about. I think there might be other ancestors that lived or past through Adair but I hate to shell out that kind of money to find that they are not mentioned. TIA Keith Lowrey

Barbara wrote: > Hi fellowlist members, > Does anyone know where this was or if it changed names what it might be > called today? I have lots of ancestors who were there and would like to > place it geographically. Thanks in advance for any help. ~~~~~~~~ Barbara- Click on: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/cn_natn.html jc

Hi fellowlist members, Does anyone know where this was or if it changed names what it might be called today? I have lots of ancestors who were there and would like to place it geographically. Thanks in advance for any help. Happy Hunting May 99 Bring you many new Ancestors Barbara Campbell ladyt@bigfoot.com Researching : Campbell,Holt,Hicks,Waggoner,Whiteneck

Can anyone help me locate information on Frank Johnson. He was listed as Cherokee. Dawes roll # 16467, Field No. 6894, District-Going Snake Brother: Oscar, Sister: Myrtie, Father: Jesse. Frank Johnson was my grandfather and any information would be appreciated. Thank you. Best Wishes, Tom