This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9DA33F0F071619F9A115A9BF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forgive cross-postings. This just arrived and I verified it on www.cnn.com Shelly Kelly Galveston TX --------------9DA33F0F071619F9A115A9BF Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from listserv.muohio.edu (listserv.muohio.edu [134.53.7.7]) by net.rosenberg-library.org (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.aduf) with ESMTP id shelly for <shelly@ROSENBERG-LIBRARY.ORG>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:23:58 +0100 Received: from cwisserver1 (134.53.7.7) by listserv.muohio.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.A19A5EC0@listserv.muohio.edu>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:45:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU by LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3846849 for ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:45:37 -0400 Received: from exchange2.sospublicmail.state.mo.us (168.166.2.52) by listserv.muohio.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.9FF6C0E0@listserv.muohio.edu>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:45:37 -0400 Received: from sosmail.state.mo.us by exchange2.sospublicmail.state.mo.us with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1460.8) id HK4YT5AD; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:25:45 -0500 Received: by sosmail.state.mo.us with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <26PF7KAW>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:44:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-ID: <26CB56E4C5D9D211A0A0002035687B8E079873@sosmail.state.mo.us> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:44:12 -0500 Reply-To: Archives & Archivists <ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU> Sender: Archives & Archivists <ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU> From: "Chubb, Jelain" <chubbj@SOSMAIL.STATE.MO.US> Subject: Shooting at LDS Family History Center To: ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU For those who may not have heard yet, a gunman opened fire in the library of the LDS Family History Center in Salt Lake about 10:30 MT. The report I saw on CNN a little while ago said six people were injured and that they had a gunman in custody, and were searching for a second suspect. Jelain Chubb Administrative Archivist Missouri Local Records Program Secretary of State's Office PO Box 778 Jefferson City, MO 65102 Phone: 573-751-1819 Fax: 573-526-3867 Email: jchubb@mail.sos.state.mo.us A posting from the Archives & Archivists LISTSERV List! To subscribe or unsubscribe, send e-mail to listserv@listserv.muohio.edu In body of message: SUB ARCHIVES firstname lastname *or*: UNSUB ARCHIVES To post a message, send e-mail to archives@listserv.muohio.edu Or to do *anything* (and enjoy doing it!), use the web interface at http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/archives.html Problems? Send e-mail to Robert F Schmidt <rschmidt@lib.muohio.edu> --------------9DA33F0F071619F9A115A9BF--

<Carol wrote: <Jerri, where can I find some maps showing where the tribes were located? Thank you <Carol C. Carol- here are some locations that I use: 1840 map of Indian Reservations: http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/FreeImages.asp?ImageID=478 General map list- GSA: http://www.doi.gov/bia/mapslst.html Five Civilized Tribes pre-removal: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/cn-east.html Hope this helps jc

Last night while trying to catch up on reading...lol, I came across this query in the Kentucky Explore February 1999 Issue: ========================= Wants Sizemore Information Dear Editor, I am looking for infomration on Chief Red Bird Sizemore. Also, I would like to find a copy of a newspaper article on the Sizemores. The title reads: "In Clay County, Kentucky, It's Hard to Avoid Sizemores; Appalachian Clan Is Prolific, Accustomed to Violence." Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Debi Sizemore 4479 E. Shore Drive Apt. 5 1/2 Bremen, IN 46506 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Today on Studio Tulsa, KWGS 89.5 FM, there is to be a broadcast and interview, discussion, whatever concerning the Osage Murders... Also check out the book "The Deaths of Sybil Boulton" ktshahan@juno.com

Hello Everyone, Would you have knowledge of Jesse Newton Northington, my natural grandfather? Most of the following information was contained in his death notice. I have no idea who his parents were. Jesse Newton NORTHINGTON b: 09 Nov 1903 Afton, OK d: 03 Jun 1987 Wed, 83y, Bethany Medical Ctr, KC, Kan Burial: 05 Jun 1987 Fri, Chapel Hill Cem Membership(s): Brotherhood of Painters & Allied Trades Union; Wyandotte Post of Am. Legion; Wyandotte Masonic Lodge. His first wife was Frances Marie DODD b: 10 Jul 1905 #631b# [Francis] Iowa m: 19 May 1923 d: 1967 Father: James Edward DODD Mother: Ms. Laura Bell NEWMAN. His second wife was Grace b: 10 Jul 1905 or 1906 AKA-Grandma Grace. Thanks for reading this. A Newbie Flo. Day Winchester, Virginia USA -- <raime@visuallink.com>

Here is the continuing...index of the Indian Pioneer Papers--Western History Collection---University of Oklahoma. The Indian Pioneer History Papers is a collection of interviews done in 1937 & 1938, which includes biographical data on both living and deceased persons of Indian and pioneer heritage whose lives have been important in the history of Oklahoma. There is also a collection of information on family customs, tribal histories, social organizations, folklore, legends, cemeteries, old trails, ferries, forts, trading centers and other unrecorded facts known only to oral tradition. VOLUME 19------MICROFICHE #6016884-----8 FICHE----- NAME ADDRESS COFER, W.S. Anadarko, OK COFFEE, H.R. Sulphur, OK COFFEE, Jimmy Weleetka, OK COFFEE, Jimmy Henryetta, OK COFFELT, Samuel W. Morrison, OK COFFEY, Pete Indiahoma, OK COGGINS, William M. Blanchard, OK COGILL, Elizabeth King Oklahoma City, OK COKE, Edd Kingfisher, OK COKER, Monie Bristow, OK COKER, Nancy Jane Dobbs Altus, OK COLBAUGH, Kate Hominy, OK COLBERT, Charles Atoka, OK COLBERT, Anna " " COLBERT, Dixie H. Sulphur, OK COLBERT, J.E.(Mrs) Purcell, OK COLBERT, Joe " " COLBERT, Oad Oklahoma City, OK COLBERT, Polly Ann Colbert, OK COLBERT, Rachel Williams Atoka, OK COLBERT, Richard F. Ada, OK COLBERT, Rosabel Kenefic, OK COLBERT, Sallie Antlers, OK COLBERT, Susan Poteau, OK COLE, Alice Bond Atoka, OK COLE, Cora Lee Pryor, OK COLE, James N. Tahlequah, OK COLE, Jefferson L. Hartshorne, OK COLE, Mary " " COLE, Noble Frederick, OK COLE, Sam Anadarko, OK COLE, W.C. Altus, OK COLEGRAVE, Edith Arapaho, OK COLEMAN, Elizabeth Ellen Geary, OK COLEMAN, Frank Andrew El Reno, OK COLEMAN, George Geary, OK COLEMAN, George M. Dover, OK COLEMAN, Harry Geary, OK COLEMAN, J.T. Chickasha, OK COLEMAN, W.H.(Mrs) Clinton, OK COLLIER, W.R. Mangum, OK COLLIN, Annie Quinton, OK COLLIN, Sampson Wilburton, OK COLLINS, Adeline Wynnewood, OK COLLINS, Ben F. Ninnekah, OK COLLINS, Clark L. Tahlequah, OK COLLINS, Emma Geary, OK COLLINS, J.B. Lexington, OK COLLINS, Joe Poteau, OK COLLINS, Joseph Atoka, OK COLLINS, Linda Henryetta, OK COLLINS, Wilkie Hugo, OK COLVILLE, Ida Elmer, OK COLYER, L.H. Frederick, OK COMBS, Ida Duke, OK COMBS, Sarah Hugo, OK COMINGDEER, Nick Watts, OK COMPTON, John T. Atoka, OK TO BE CONTINUED.........

In a message dated 4/12/99 5:04:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, missbev@theshop.net writes: << They have copies of the Dawes Rolls on microfilm, and copies of the Indians and Pioneers interviews done by the WPA. They've got a lot of other stuff in there I've never used but probably would if I knew to ask for it. There are both paid employees and volunteers who work in the Archives, and they are all very nice and helpful. >> There is a 150 page catalog online of the microfilm items available. It may be accessed at: (if you use hyperlinks--just click on the following) <A HREF="http://www.ok-history.mus.ok.us/archives/indianrc/catpdfmf.html">Oklahom a Historical Society-CATALOG OF MICROFILM PUBLICATIONS </A> or use the following URL http://www.ok-history.mus.ok.us/archives/indianrc/catpdfmf.html The catalog requires the use of ACROBAT READER. If you do not have AR, there is a free download at the same site, so you can download it before you click on the catalog. AR allows you to select a specific page, scale the page for easier viewing, select continuous page viewing, etc.

>Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:23:52 -0700 >From: "Robbie Kilgore" <kilgore@ionet.net> >To: Indian-Territory-Roots-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Indian Territory Records Division of Archives > >Can someone tell me about the Indian Territory Records Division of Archives, >Department of Libraries, located at 200 NE 18th Street, Oklahoma City, OK, >73105. What records are housed there? Are they open to researchers? Can >copies of records be ordered for a fee? Thank you. > >Robbie Kilgore >kilgore@ionet.net > The Oklahoma Historical Society charges $15 + $.50 a page for copies for non-Oklahoma residents or just the copy fee for Oklahoma residents. Their address is Oklahoma Historical Society, Indian Archives, 2100 N. Lincoln Blvd, Oklahoma City, OK 73105-4997. They will also let you do research yourself for free. Copies are still $.50 a page, or $5 for a Dawes Roll census card package. They're open weekdays and on Saturday (but they close for lunch on Saturdays--I don't know if they also close for lunch on weekdays.) You must bring a picture ID. They have copies of the Dawes Rolls on microfilm, and copies of the Indians and Pioneers interviews done by the WPA. They've got a lot of other stuff in there I've never used but probably would if I knew to ask for it. There are both paid employees and volunteers who work in the Archives, and they are all very nice and helpful. Beverly missbev@theshop.net

"Does anyone know of the names of the Indian reservations that were located in Clarksville Arkansas on or around 1916? " > Thanks Sanna There were NONE. All of the Cherokee tribal land holdings in Arkansas were abolished in the 1825 treaty- and all of the Cherokee citizens were removed into Indian Territory by 1830, as evidenced by their claims for improvements abandoned when they removed. See map and explanation: http://www.cherokee.net "Map of the 1817-1828 Cherokee Nation West (AR Territory)" jc

Spadra, Arkansas near Clarksville was a place where many early settler Cherokees came about 100 years before your date (c1817) Doug Barkley Sanna wrote: > Does anyone know of the names of the Indian reservations that were located > in Clarksville Arkansas on or around 1916? > \/ > Thanks /\ Sanna > //\\ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Indian-Territory-Roots-D-request@rootsweb.com > <Indian-Territory-Roots-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: Indian-Territory-Roots-D@rootsweb.com > <Indian-Territory-Roots-D@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 11:23 AM > Subject: Indian-Territory-Roots-D Digest V99 #135

Does anyone know of the names of the Indian reservations that were located in Clarksville Arkansas on or around 1916? \/ Thanks /\ Sanna //\\ -----Original Message----- From: Indian-Territory-Roots-D-request@rootsweb.com <Indian-Territory-Roots-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: Indian-Territory-Roots-D@rootsweb.com <Indian-Territory-Roots-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 11:23 AM Subject: Indian-Territory-Roots-D Digest V99 #135

Can someone tell me about the Indian Territory Records Division of Archives, Department of Libraries, located at 200 NE 18th Street, Oklahoma City, OK, 73105. What records are housed there? Are they open to researchers? Can copies of records be ordered for a fee? Thank you. Robbie Kilgore kilgore@ionet.net

OKGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/ main page gets new makeover thanks to the efforts of our own, Sharon Crawford, OKGenWeb Assistant Coordinator Enjoy!! -- ____________________________________________ mailto:marti@rootsweb.com Marti Graham, OKGenWeb State Coordinator & Creek, LeFlore, Oklahoma Co. Coordinator http://www.usgenweb.org/ok OKGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/heartland/flats/6878/ R U an Angel Proud RootsWeb Donor+ "Dedicated to user supported access to genealogical records on the internet"

Last I knew, Mrs Kay Black was Query Secretary of the Pushmataha Co. Hist. Soc., PO Box 285, Antlers, OK 74523, as she sent us a letter telling us of data in the records there on my husbands maternal lines of HASTINGS, ROBERTSON, BURRIS, ABLES. My husband's mother and sisters grew up in Antlers, Pushmataha Co., OK. - Happy Trails, J - Hope this helps you. Also, visit my 4 personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/3718/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Kunkel <akunkel@tds.net> To: <Indian-Territory-Roots-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 4:34 PM Subject: Bilbreys early 1900's near Pushmataha OK > My ggUncles were Andrew Bilbrey and Isaac Jasper Bilbrey 1866-1921, from > Overton Co. TN who went to the Indian Lands of Oklahoma in the early 1900's. > > The story goes that Jasper was killed by an Indian and years ago a gal from > the Pushmataha Historical Society was going to send me a newspaper article > on the killing. I lost her address and was unable to reach her again > (Ms.Kay Black, I think). Could someone find that for me - I will gladly > send whatever it costs to get a copy of this newspaper article. Hope it > answers some questions for our family. We never knew the details of this > killing. > > I have these cousins as listed in Cloudy Cemetery at Antlers: Bilbrey, > Isaac Jasper, 1866-1921. His wife Phoebia Isbel 1884-1919m children: ??? > > Jasper's brother Andrew Bilbrey reported the death to our family in Tennessee. > Andrew J. Bilbrey was on the 1910 and 1920 Pushmataha OK census as: > Bilbrey, Andrew J. age 39 m. 16 years to Sarah E. age 40 (6 children, 3 > living) William M. Bilbrey 13 son, Tina A. 11 yr. old dau. and James E. > Bilbrey 5 years old. > > The 1920 Hanratty Twp. Coal Co. OK lists Bilbrey, Andrew 49, Sarah age 50 > with Jim age 16, Norma 19 dau.-in-law from OK and Dortha age 1 9/12 grand > dau. She may have been William's wife or widow??? > > Would so appreciate it anyone could locate this newspaper article about > Jasper's murder in apparently 1921. Thank you very much! > Ann in Wisconsin > >

Here is the continuing...index of the Indian Pioneer Papers--Western History Collection---University of Oklahoma. The Indian Pioneer History Papers is a collection of interviews done in 1937 & 1938, which includes biographical data on both living and deceased persons of Indian and pioneer heritage whose lives have been important in the history of Oklahoma. There is also a collection of information on family customs, tribal histories, social organizations, folklore, legends, cemeteries, old trails, ferries, forts, trading centers and other unrecorded facts known only to oral tradition. VOLUME 79------MICROFICHE #6016944-----6 FICHE-- NAME ADDRESS ROSS, Tom Sulphur, OK ROSS, William W. Proctor, OK ROSTON, Henry T. Elk City, OK ROTHHAMMER, Stella Feeback Tulsa, OK ROUNDS, J.B.(Dr.) Oklahoma City, OK ROUNDS, Joe Anadarko, OK ROUNDTREE, Ross Texanna, OK ROUTH, John Perry, OK ROWE, R.C.(Mrs) Mill Creek, OK ROWE, Robert C. " " " ROWLAN, Joseph Cherokee, OK ROWLAND, John C. Cordell, OK RUDE, Sam D. Mangum, OK RUDE, Sam (Mrs) " " RUFF, C.W. Perry, OK RUKES, Frances Mary (Ridenhour) El Reno, OK RUMSEY, Jim Eufaula, OK RUNYON, John Medford, OK RUSH, A.F. Altus, OK RUSH, Frank, Sr.(Mrs) Cache, OK RUSH, Frank, Sr.(Mrs) Lawton, OK RUSHING, Doc H. Madill, OK RUSHING, G.M.(Dr.) Durant, OK RUSSELL, Edith Barrows Oklahoma City, OK RUSSELL, Frank Davis, OK RUSSELL, James B. Westville, OK RUSSELL, Margaret Davis, OK RUSSELL, Wiley Altus, OK RUTHERFORD, C.N. Tishomingo, OK RUTHERFORD, Grover Holdenville, OK RUTHERFORD, Margaret Ellen Sayre, OK RUTHERFORD, W.M. Antlers, OK RUTLEDGE, Ace Altus, OK RUTLEDGE, Maud " " RYAL, L. Bun Henryetta, OK RYALS, A.M. Okemah, OK RYAN, Daniel Frederick, OK RYAN, J.A. Oklahoma City, OK RYAN, Lenora Soullyville, OK RYAN, S.W. Ryan, OK RYBURN, Charles E. Boswell, OK RYLES, Salena LeFlore, OK VOLUME 107-----MICROFICHE #6016972----10 FICHE--- NAME TITLE MCDOWELL, Alene D.---------Bartlesville Smelters Last Osage Scalp First Oil Well Bartlesville MASON, Etta D.-------------Atoka Baptist Church Judge William Harrison Jackson Biography of Reverend J.S. Murrow The McKinney Ranch Jack Fork County Court Ground MAXWELL, Charles (Mrs)----- Elizabeth Hosmer-Norwood Papers Norwood Papers MAYFIELD, Carl H.----------Anchor Dee Ranch Cattle Brands MAYTUBBY, Peter, Jr.-------Letters MEAGHER, Thomas F.---------Euchee-Creek Indian Bands Map Origin of the Name Luchabega Muskogee Creek Indians MORGAN, Nellie B.----------New Hope Seminary Muskogee Booster Booklet NELSON, Merrill A.---------Garfield County Elections Oklahoma Review OSBORNE, John R.-----------Account Book Account Book of Black Beaver PETTER, Rodolphe-----------Articles from The Mennonite PHELPS, G.Lee--------------True Story of Indian Missions POLK, H.A.(Mrs)------------Reverend W.R.Baker POPE, O.C.-----------------Bacone-Crosby Letters Presbyterian Church Documents RHODES, Joe D.(Mrs)--------Lockwood Letters RANOK, Linnaeus B.---------Personal Reminiscences Temple Houston Early Day Indian Battle Site Day County Well Digging The Old Beaver County Trail Personal Recollections Early Indian Burial Ground ROBERTS, Mary Riley--------Nowata Settlers Further Facts about Nowata County When the Cherokees Moved West Alluwe TO BE CONTINUED........

My ggUncles were Andrew Bilbrey and Isaac Jasper Bilbrey 1866-1921, from Overton Co. TN who went to the Indian Lands of Oklahoma in the early 1900's. The story goes that Jasper was killed by an Indian and years ago a gal from the Pushmataha Historical Society was going to send me a newspaper article on the killing. I lost her address and was unable to reach her again (Ms.Kay Black, I think). Could someone find that for me - I will gladly send whatever it costs to get a copy of this newspaper article. Hope it answers some questions for our family. We never knew the details of this killing. I have these cousins as listed in Cloudy Cemetery at Antlers: Bilbrey, Isaac Jasper, 1866-1921. His wife Phoebia Isbel 1884-1919m children: ??? Jasper's brother Andrew Bilbrey reported the death to our family in Tennessee. Andrew J. Bilbrey was on the 1910 and 1920 Pushmataha OK census as: Bilbrey, Andrew J. age 39 m. 16 years to Sarah E. age 40 (6 children, 3 living) William M. Bilbrey 13 son, Tina A. 11 yr. old dau. and James E. Bilbrey 5 years old. The 1920 Hanratty Twp. Coal Co. OK lists Bilbrey, Andrew 49, Sarah age 50 with Jim age 16, Norma 19 dau.-in-law from OK and Dortha age 1 9/12 grand dau. She may have been William's wife or widow??? Would so appreciate it anyone could locate this newspaper article about Jasper's murder in apparently 1921. Thank you very much! Ann in Wisconsin

A Reunion for descendants of William C Sanders and Annie Riley will be held in Pavilion #3 at Lake Texhoma on Sunday, 20 June 1999. We will have a covered dish lunch and the pavilion is enclosed with evaporated coolers. If you play a musical instrument, please bring it, along with old family pictures and of course, family stories and information. For more information please contact: Pat Henderson (817)441-8052 or Tami Sanders (817) 498-3454.

TruBess@aol.com said: . "Not neccesarly <listed by their married names>. Some keep their maiden, or so says the Native Americans I worked with." -- Bessie ~~ Bessie- Different tribes have had different traditions at various times in history. But this person was speaking specifically about the Guion Miller Roll and 1907/09 era That roll was exclusively Cherokee, and at that time in history the women were listed by their married names. In the many years that I have worked in these records, I have never seen them shown by anything other than their married name. Can you give me a specific example (roll and application number) of one being shown otherwise? Jerri Chasteen ~~~

Linda- A woman would have been listed by her married name as at the time of her G/M application (1906/09), so she would have been listed as "Rebecca Dailey", wouldn't she? jc Linda Menikos wrote: > Hi jc, or others who may know, > > I have started searching for information on the parents of my g-grandmother, > Rebecca Hatcher, who I believe may be Indian. I have the name Maude and > Margaret for the mother, (maybe Maude Margaret or Margaret Maude) and > William for the father. I looked at a Hatcher web page that indicated a > Maudie Hatcher on the Guion Miller Roll of the Eastern Cherokee, with a > number 20723, and there were 4 Williams, one of whom was a guardian and one > who was probably his son. These two had numbers 21076 and 20727, and the > other two Williams were 21080 and 20692. > > Is there an easy way to use these numbers to find out more about these > people so I can learn if any of them are my relatives? > > Rebecca Hatcher married William Jasper Dailey b 1841 in IN. Rebecca was b > 1844 in MO or OH. They are the parents of my grandmother, Hester Ellen > Dailey b 1884 in KS and m Bookard Elias Dooley in OK in 1898. > > Thanks for your time. > Linda

Hi jc, or others who may know, I have started searching for information on the parents of my g-grandmother, Rebecca Hatcher, who I believe may be Indian. I have the name Maude and Margaret for the mother, (maybe Maude Margaret or Margaret Maude) and William for the father. I looked at a Hatcher web page that indicated a Maudie Hatcher on the Guion Miller Roll of the Eastern Cherokee, with a number 20723, and there were 4 Williams, one of whom was a guardian and one who was probably his son. These two had numbers 21076 and 20727, and the other two Williams were 21080 and 20692. Is there an easy way to use these numbers to find out more about these people so I can learn if any of them are my relatives? Rebecca Hatcher married William Jasper Dailey b 1841 in IN. Rebecca was b 1844 in MO or OH. They are the parents of my grandmother, Hester Ellen Dailey b 1884 in KS and m Bookard Elias Dooley in OK in 1898. Thanks for your time. Linda