Jerri (Rogers) Chasteen wrote: > > It's just been very quiet this past week, Charlene. Perhaps your message will > stir some of the "lurkers" into submitting their information! ============== Jerri, Maybe this is the time to ask a question that has been on my mind for a long time. Maybe it will "stir" something up. Why in the world do some people want to be kin to an Indian? Over the years I've seen people want to get into the DAR or the Mayflower bunch or some other "status" group and it has turned me off. Same for folks who seem to think there is some kind of status in being kin to an Indian. How often do we hear something like, "My grandmother was supposed to be full/half/quarter (take your pick) Indian. I even heard one lady "brag" about some supposed kin of her's that she said was a "three-feather Cherokee princess", whatever that's supposed to be. My grandmother used to tell us kids that our grandfather's, grandfather was some famous Indian chief in Alabama in the early 1800's. Because of this story, this was the LAST line I did when I began doing research. I figured it was just another one of those "Indian stories". As it turned out my grandmother was right, but does it make me any different because some guy 180 years ago was an "Indian"? He was no different from any other of my ancestors. Was he more "noble" or "braver" than my other ancestors. Not in my opinion. So what's the big deal with having an Indian in your "closet". Jim

It looks like I am back on the I.T. list. I hope I didn't miss much. WADO, Keith

Looking for information on Isaac and Sophie (Sophia) RILEY. I know nothing of them other than they had a daughter "Frances", b 1858 in Eufala, IT who married an Elijah BROWN and lived in IT(OK). Apparently Sophie was 1/2 Creek as their children are on the Dawes Roll. The town listed for their enrollment is Hickory Ground. Children of Elijah BROWN and Frances RILEY are: Pete b abt 1875 Joe b abt 1877 Lucinda b abt 1877 Charlie Bud b Aprpil 6, 1897 in Krebs, IT Daryl Brown tbrown@ionet.net

Want to thank everyone for their help. Now I have something to go on in my search.

In my notes I have a Harmon who married a Winton woman in Texas...Hunt or Fannin or Hopkins or Delta County. If this sounds familiar I will dig out my notes. Peggy in Texas

I know I am not very smart so need to have someone explain the following to me. I know that Isaac and Sophie are man and wife but don't know what the other two are. Pllease give this ignorant man a hand. Daryl Brown tbrown@ionet.net - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Another URL (Whites LIving in the Indian Territory - At the end of the Yell County AR Census): Cherokee Nation Chikasaw Nation Choctaw Nation Part 1 A-C Choctaw Nation D-G Choctaw Nation H-L Choctaw Nation M-Y Creek Nation Pt 1 A-H Creek Nation Part 2 I-Y Seminole Nation 1861 _OK1149 Riley, Abraham OK1149 Riley, Americus OK1149 Riley, Isaac OK1149 Riley, Sophia

Can anyone tell me if there is a 1900 census for Indian Territory? Does anyone have access to it, if it exists, or can you tell me how I can get a copy? I'm looking for GAYLOR, GUNTER, JENNINGS, REAVES AND LOWERY. I'm pretty new at this and I could really use some help. Thank you, Brenda S.

Hello Harmon researchers!! Do any of you have any connections to a Martha Jane Harmon m. Isaiah Matney, believe her mother's name was Elizabeth. Don't know her dad's name or siblings. Understand per family history this Martha Jane and her mother are on the rolls somewhere, but where I cannot find, supposedly Cherokee, although they could be from another tribe altogether. Hope we can match up here!! Linda

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Jerri, I printed your message to me that I was already on the list.The print out was six full pages plus one line on a seventh sheet. I did not have an enlarged line. I couldn't tell if one was highlighted or not. The message that you sent does show that I attempted to subscribe on Sat, 5 Jun 1999 at 20:57:49. I just sat down at my puter and had 59 messages. Most all of them were from another list. I finally received one posted by Charlene at 8:23 today in which she indicated that she had not been getting any mail. As I wrote to you directly, I have not received any I.T. mail for over a week. I did send a message to subscribe after you acknowledged that I was on the list. I did not receive an acknowledgement, and still did not receive any I.T. mail, so that is why I made another effort. I was going to write back to you directly but am putting this on the list, 1, so there will be mail to look for on the list and 2, to see if anyone else has had a problem. Frankly, the mail on the I.T. list is a lot more interesting that the other list that I subscribed to about ten days ago. WADO, Keith

Jim-- ONE slight correction! "Greer County" was in Oklahoma Territory-- not Indian Territory. If you haven't already done so, you might want to check the 1900 census of Oklahoma Territory for more information. It does have a Soundex, by the way. jc James Milton wrote: > jc, > Seeing that it is a little slow on this sight, I will quit being a > "lurker" and see if I can get or give a little information on people I > have listed in my family tree. > William Johnson MELTON, b. March 27, 1856, Vassand, Yorkshire, > England, m. Mary Melcina WILLIAMS, b. May 10, 1868. Her parents were > Levi Williams, b. ?, and Alice WILSON, b.?. I have a birthplace for > Mary Melcina listed as Burlington, Texas and as Illinois. > Son of William Johnson MELTON and Mary Melcina WILLIAMS is George > Leonard Melton is George Leonard MILTON, b. Feb 8, 1892, Navajo, > Greer, Indian Territory. There is possibly a daughter Florence who > died at birth or shortly thereafter. > William Johnson MELTON died April 25, 1893. Mary Melcina married > William's brother, John Henry MILTON in January of 1894. > They in turn had a son, James H. MILTON, b. 1896. in Indian > Territory, William and Mary were divorced. > Later Mary married Lee ALLEN, b. ?. They had twins, Columbus > Roswell ALLEN and Weber L. ALLEN, b. May 27, 1898, White Cloud > Territory, OK. > This is the information I have. The primary information I am > looking for is on William Johnson MELTON and Mary Melcina WILLIAMS. I > do have copies of letters written to Mary from William evidently while > William was on a cattle drive. One of the towns mentioned is Warren > in Greer County. Another letter written from William to Mrs. Mollie > Milton dtd July the 9, 1890 was from Murray, Young Co, Texas. > I know this sounds sort of confusing but hopefully someone can > give some more information. > Thanks, Jim

jc, Seeing that it is a little slow on this sight, I will quit being a "lurker" and see if I can get or give a little information on people I have listed in my family tree. William Johnson MELTON, b. March 27, 1856, Vassand, Yorkshire, England, m. Mary Melcina WILLIAMS, b. May 10, 1868. Her parents were Levi Williams, b. ?, and Alice WILSON, b.?. I have a birthplace for Mary Melcina listed as Burlington, Texas and as Illinois. Son of William Johnson MELTON and Mary Melcina WILLIAMS is George Leonard Melton is George Leonard MILTON, b. Feb 8, 1892, Navajo, Greer, Indian Territory. There is possibly a daughter Florence who died at birth or shortly thereafter. William Johnson MELTON died April 25, 1893. Mary Melcina married William's brother, John Henry MILTON in January of 1894. They in turn had a son, James H. MILTON, b. 1896. in Indian Territory, William and Mary were divorced. Later Mary married Lee ALLEN, b. ?. They had twins, Columbus Roswell ALLEN and Weber L. ALLEN, b. May 27, 1898, White Cloud Territory, OK. This is the information I have. The primary information I am looking for is on William Johnson MELTON and Mary Melcina WILLIAMS. I do have copies of letters written to Mary from William evidently while William was on a cattle drive. One of the towns mentioned is Warren in Greer County. Another letter written from William to Mrs. Mollie Milton dtd July the 9, 1890 was from Murray, Young Co, Texas. I know this sounds sort of confusing but hopefully someone can give some more information. Thanks, Jim

I don't think anyone is really very active at this time, most all the mailing lists have slowed down. I am looking for a family of Rhoden's who were supposedly American Indian, we think Cherokee. Here is an outline of the family I am looking at...any help would be appreciated.... Descendants of Bill Rhoden 1 Bill Rhoden b: June 02, 1844 in Roaring River area of Berryville, Ark (Carroll Co) d: March 24, 1936 in Berryville, Arkansas .. Carroll Co. . +Rebecca Ann Snow b: December 14, 1840 in Roaring River area of Berryville, Ark .... 2 James Rhoden ....... +Lucretta Butler .... 2 Andrew Jackson Rhoden b: in Berryville, Carroll Co., AR ....... +Mary Francis Baker b: September 21, 1859 d: 1955 .... 2 Faud Rhoden .... 2 Sis Rhoden .... 2 Allie Rhoden .... 2 Dollie Rhoden b: in Carroll Co., Berryville, AR ....... +W.A. Ledbetter .... 2 Al Rhoden .... 2 Dora Dove Rhoden b: February 28, 1871 in Berryville, Arkansas d: 1904 in Ada, OK Chickasaw Indian Reservation, buried: Hanging Rock Cemetery (no longer existant) ....... +John T. (Bingaman) Bingham b: September 22, 1846 in Union Township., Pennsylvania d: June 13, 1926 in Eureka Springs, Arkansas bob bobette@foxinternet.net

Looking for information on Mabry/Mabery's who lived in Stigler/McCurtain in Haskell Co. 1890-19?? and, Ely's who lived in and around Muldrow, Sequoyah (Dist.) Co. 1890-1910. Sharolyn McCoy 60599 E. 100th Road Miami, OK 74354

It's just been very quiet this past week, Charlene. Perhaps your message will stir some of the "lurkers" into submitting their information! jc ACharlieBe@aol.com wrote: > I don't know what happened but I have not been receiving the list. And have > missed all of you. I just re-subscribed. I hope that was the right thing to > do. If not someone please let me know. I am Looking for Wicketts or > Wicked's and Harmon's, at the present time. > Wado > Charlene

I don't know what happened but I have not been receiving the list. And have missed all of you. I just re-subscribed. I hope that was the right thing to do. If not someone please let me know. I am Looking for Wicketts or Wicked's and Harmon's, at the present time. Wado Charlene

Jeffery Snell wrote: > > The following is an index of surnames (abridged version) that could > be found in or related to a Hobbs in IT on the 1900 census (as stated in > Helen Handley's "Hobbs Connections in IT & TX, 1900). ============ After my grandfather died in 1920, my grandmother, Martha Elizabeth (Ward) Guest married one R.L. Hobbs in Stephens County Oklahoma about 1921-22. Does this Hobbs show on any of the lists? Jim

I promised to do this a while back, but family problems caught me for a while. The following is an index of surnames (abridged version) that could be found in or related to a Hobbs in IT on the 1900 census (as stated in Helen Handley's "Hobbs Connections in IT & TX, 1900). If you have any questions or would like the entry, drop me a line. Allison Bain Blackmon Briscoe Brown Cross Davis Dixon Driskell Edwards Forman Fults Gibbs Goodall Hammond Hightower Jones Kirkpatrick Lynn Moody New Nichols Nunley Richards Rogers Sears Simpson Thompson Vestal White Wilson Winston

I have a grgrgrandmother who was the first 'lady' minister to be ordained in the OK territory. Her married name was Anna Shaw, (first married name was Baker, and unfortunately I don't have her maiden name). Is there anyway I can verify this info? Thanks for the help! Barbara Shock

Searching for information on THOMAS P. and Elizabeth JONES DAVIS (DAVIES). They were enumerated at the Post Office, Cheek Agency in the Creek Nation Census, 30 Oct 1860. Post Office records indicate that she was Postmistress at the Council House, Choctaw Nation, 6 Feb 1872. This Council House was located in the Mosholatubbe District at Latham, on the Old Military Road near Trahern Station. Their daughters: SUSAN married JOSEPH H. WILLARD, US Dep. Marshal; MARTHA married WILLIAM V. ALEXANDER, Rancher, Chickasaw Nation; ELLEN married Dr. SILAS BURCH, Norman OT and "PINK" married RUPERT HAMILTON. Would like to find the burial locations of Thomas and Elizabeth.