Most of the 1885 Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory census is on line at : > http://www.choctaw-web.com/index.htm I think Red River Co., is missing Tammy Dice Jones [email protected] THE JONES FAMILY OF THE CHOCTAW NATION http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~treetop/jones.html > > > BFC5336 wrote: "I would like to find the 1890 Choctaw Census and I don't > know > > where to look. Or what to look for. Can this be found on the Internet? > Would I > > look for Oklahoma Territory Census? Any help would be appreciated." > > > > I understand that the Choctaw Nation was not included in the 1890 census > of > > Indian Territory, but there was an 1885 census done by the Choctaw Nation. > I do > > not have that film. > > > > You would not look in "Oklahoma Territory", because the Choctaw Nation was > not > > IN Oklahoma Territory. Alway check the maps shown on the OK USGenWeb site > if you > > have any questions about locations in what is now the state of Oklahoma. > Their > > net address for the maps is > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/maps/maps.htm > > > > jc > > > > > > > > > > ==== Indian-Territory-Roots Mailing List ==== > > For full instructions to subscribe, unsubscribe and list rules, click on > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/welcome.html > > To send an e-mail to the list owner: [email protected] > > > > >

<A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jgregory/richison/census.htm"> Click here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jgregory/richison/census.htm</A> [email protected] wrote: "I understand that the Choctaw Nation was not included in the 1890 census of Indian Territory, but there was an 1885 census done by the Choctaw Nation. I do not have that film." Jerri, I was wrong on the year of the Choctaw Nation Census. It should have been 1900 not 1890. I have attached the site where I found this partial census, FYI, but I would like to see more of it. Do you know where I could find this? Or if I go to the library, how would I ask them for help in this matter? I'm sorry I have so many questions, I know you are very busy. Thanks for your help. BFC

BFC- There was also an 1885 Choctaw census! The 1900 census is for all of Indian Territory and another of Oklahoma (see maps). The I.T. census is on series #T623-1843 through 1854. Oklahoma 1900 census is on series #T623-1335 through 1353. There are Soundex available for each of those areas- Indian Territory is #T1082-1 through 42 and Oklahoma is on #T1066-1 through 43. The film may be ordered (purchase or rental) through AGLL (American Genealogical Lending Library) at the Heritage Quest site: http://www.heritagequest.com/ jc

BFC5336 wrote: "I would like to find the 1890 Choctaw Census and I don't know where to look. Or what to look for. Can this be found on the Internet? Would I look for Oklahoma Territory Census? Any help would be appreciated." I understand that the Choctaw Nation was not included in the 1890 census of Indian Territory, but there was an 1885 census done by the Choctaw Nation. I do not have that film. You would not look in "Oklahoma Territory", because the Choctaw Nation was not IN Oklahoma Territory. Alway check the maps shown on the OK USGenWeb site if you have any questions about locations in what is now the state of Oklahoma. Their net address for the maps is http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/maps/maps.htm jc

I would like to find the 1890 Choctaw Census and I don't know where to look. Or what to look for. Can this be found on the Internet? Would I look for Oklahoma Territory Census? Any help would be appreciated bfc

Indexes to the Cherokee Nation 1890 census has been published for several districts. Of course the original is available on microfilm. > The Chickasaw Nation 1890 census has been published in > several volumes, and I am sure that more of the nations will be published in > the future. > > jc

Alison wrote: "<snip> lately I've seen a FEW 1890 county census reconstructions. If you are very, very, very fortunate, there might be one for your county. Are there any for Indian Territory?" ~~~ Alison, we have discussed the 1890 Territorial census that is available for both Indian and Oklahoma Territories several times on this mail list, but I forget that we have new subscribers! Thank you for reminding me. These territorial census are not as complete as the U.S. census- but they are "better than nothing". The Chickasaw Nation 1890 census has been published in several volumes, and I am sure that more of the nations will be published in the future. jc

Don't overlook checking the 1890 Veterans census which lists not only surviving Civil War vets but also their widows. Not all states, however, have the census. Perhaps someone can tell you if the state you're interested in has the census. ja

That fire sure hurt alot of us. I'm sure everyone I am looking for was on there. LOL. anita in Tn.

clumbsy3017 wrote: "do you happen to know if there was a census of the 1890?" In the 1930's a warehouse fire destroyed the 1890 census before it was microfilmed. Of the entire U.S., only about five counties in a couple of states survived the fire and the water damage. jc

Hello, I'm looking for additional information on the following family. Thanks for your help. Daryl Bruner ELI BRUNER. Son of BRUNER & MARIAH (MOLIA) FISHER. Born 3 May 1858 in INDIAN TERRITORY, OKLAHOMA. Died 17 Feb 1897 in OKLAHOMA. Buried in POSTOAK CEMETERY, SAND SPRINGS, OKLAHOMA. He married SALINA POSTOAK, daughter of TAYLOR POSTOAK & SALLIE, 1880 in INDIAN TERRITORY, OKLAHOMA. Born 1855 in INDIAN TERRITORY, OKLAHOMA. Died 12 Feb 1892 in OKLAHOMA. Buried in POSTOAK CEMETERY, SAND SPRINGS, OKLAHOMA. They had the following children: i. MECULLA (MEGUALLY) BRUNER ii. ARLINGER BRUNER iii. PATTY BRUNER

This address is a site: Choctaw Nation Census 1900. The Census if very hard to read but it does have a hand written number on it and Indian Territory. Can someone give me a site that would be more clear than this on is? My Richison Ancestors are on it. I would appreciate any help, very much. Thanks, Billie <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jgregory/richison/census.htm"> Click here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jgregory/richison/census.htm</A>

Here is an excellant, easy to use link that has several Indian Rolls. This is sure a lot easier to use than NARA. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/ Victoria Brittain Allen

Betty Jones wrote: "Hi Every one I am new at this so forgive any Boo Boo Can some one tell me how to look for ancestor on the 1835 Henderson Roll I found 1 on the Miller roll also how do you find what degree of indian blood they are? Another Question There are 2 Lucy Harris (my Grandmother name) How do I find out which one if any is her"? Betty- Everyone was new at one time, and you are doing fine. To answer your questions, to find out if one of the Lucy Harris' is your grandmother- first you must research your own ancestor to firmly establish where your grandmother was living in 1906/09 (find her on the 1910 U.S. census) and what her age and name would have been at that time (example- was she married?). I looked into the records, and in 1909 both of these Lucy Harris were living in northeastern Oklahoma, so if your Lucy was living elsewhere- then there is little doubt that neither of these two were "yours". You can read the instructions to start tracing your grandmother at http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/page_1.htm. Since we work backward in time (1920, 1910, 1900, etc), you will need to establish your family's location in 1830 & 1840 before the 1835 roll will do you much good. Good luck Jerri

Hi Every one I am new at this so forgive any Boo Boo Can some one tell me how to look for ancestor on the 1835 Henderson Roll I found 1 on the Miller roll also how do you find what degree of indian blood they are? Another Question There are 2 Lucy Harris (my Grandmother name) How do I find out which one if any is her? Thanks All Betty B.J

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Can someone assist in locating records on any of the following? Hickman Johnson Mandy Johnson Amanda Angeline Johnson Sylvester Johnson Joseph Johnson Robert King Amanda King Lary or Larrie King Essie King Leslie King Thanks, Laurel

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I found an enrollment for a Creek Census card for a family memeber ca.1898-ca.1914 the City of Residence listed Ketchopataka. Came from Bureau of Indian Affairs. Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes. Does anyone know of this <grin>city? Thanks I have looked eveywhere in Ok. town names old and new . Thanks Anita in Tn