I feel badly when I hear people insulting others on their opinions as to what may be helpful information from another perspective. Case in point would be the exchange below re. building and providing access to DNA databases for PEOPLE access ... I would urge people NOT to let their fears of the misuse of a technology such as DNA "proofs" to rule their behavior so they abuse their own integrity and dignity AND that of those they insult. Knives, for instance, (lower tech admittedly) can both kill and serve humankind's needs. Same with the sun ... even lower tech. Hi tech no difference ... its the USE of KNOWLEDGE which determines whether it will be abusive or "good" for humankind. I would like to "crack open a seed of food for thought" (my husband's words), re use of DNA databases and geneology. As an Indian law attorney and concerned human, I have been involved in tribal enrollments and some "roots" type research. I can see where many "disputes" and disenfranchisement as members of a tribal community could simply be solved by the use of DNA to prove/disprove whether someone is/is not of a given tribal heritage. WHAT a neat, energy-saving, time-saving, emotion-saving, TRUTH-FINDER that it could provide. So it can be used to protect civil-rights as well as what the "nazi" politically-based fears expressed below. Let us instead think of the BETTER WAY of applying knowledge ... for humankind ... instead of using knowledge to INSULT one another ... lets be UP WITH PEOPLE!! (AND other species) ... lets exercise our dignity for our common welfare. I > --------------7B07DF35834DC41E96C4F3EC > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 23:14:13 -0600 > From: skm <[email protected]> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: humphri <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: DNA-Pedigree > References: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > humphri----You are the perfect nut case. This has the markings of a NAZI. > I have nothing in my family TREE or brickwall that could possibly warrant > that. > You need to take a pencil and paper, go to your nearest library and lock > yourself in. Unless you are already locked up? > If BYU is doing this then it is time to STOP them also. > I will notify and start asking questions. > This is illegal. It is called "Roe vs. Wade". An invasion > of privacy. > > humphri wrote: > > > Wouldn't this be a perfect solution for all of us with insurmountable > > Brickwalls? > > Cheers Georgene > > ======================================================== > > BYU Assembles Database To Help Track Bloodlines > > > > REXBURG (AP) - A drop of blood may help people finally fill out their > > family tree. > > > > Many groan at the idea of poring over ancestral charts and searching > > through endless databases, but Brigham Young University's molecular > > genealogy researchers may have found a way to simplify some of that > > work. > > > > The scientists say people are linked in “family trees” based on genetic > > markers. > > Ancestors can be traced in pedigrees based on DNA that reveal > > relationships that are not detectable in genealogies based on names, > > written records or oral traditions, said Scott Woodward of the > > university. > > > > What we are able to do is take the genetic information and assign it an > > ancestral home,” he > > said. Last March, BYU's molecular genealogists began collecting samples > > in Utah. As of Jan. 31, they had 8,085 samples in the United States and > > 6,990 around the world in countries such as Oman, Egypt, England, Peru, > > Bolivia and Chile. They intend to take 100,000 blood samples in the next > > four years. The researchers are in eastern Idaho this week. > > To participate in the genetic testing, people will be asked to donate > > blood and bring a four generation pedigree chart com plete with dates > > and places of birth. > > > > -- > > "Welding Links Lineages" [email protected], Copyright (C)1986-2001 > > Memoirs<http://aitchcrests.tripod.com/MyChildhood/> > > Alaska Cruise 2000<http://aitchcrests.tripod.com/Alaska00trip/> > > H.A.Breshears:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irhpmuh/index.htm> > > > > 1997 Breshears Index: <http://www.angelfire.com/id/deeproots> > > > > ==============================

Having recently subscribed to this list in hopes of finding a clue to a female "brick wall", but with the first few posts I received, I find the comments from the list moderator just too much to bother with!! My GENEALOGICAL pursuit started as a hobby many, many years ago as did my medical problems. My brick wall has sat a branch apart, a dead end on all the usual means of locating her heritage. Having only a single given name to work with, but she was described by one of her children (who was born in IT) as the color of leather with eyes as black as night unlike her very German husband. Through the years, I have explored a few different angles on her with no success. According to oral history their family moved many times between Indian Territory, Missouri and Arkansas. They had a strong distrust of the US government, to the point I have had trouble locating 20th century records on their descendants. Many of their descendants still reside in these areas. She never much bothered me until recently when I found information on a disease with a GENETIC marker that may explain my doctors lack of ability to give long term relief to my symptoms as it mimics many other diseases. This disease strikes primarily people of Middle Eastern descent, but is also found in one indigenous people of the US. (Melungeons, but where better to raise a mixed family than with people who "look" like you? You know, since racial prejudices were unheard of in the 1800's...) So next time you "talk" to "the people" at BYU you might ask about the disease FMF since the Mayo Clinic apparently doesn't know what it's talking about & you "know" that DNA plays no part in GENEALOGY! BE REAL, YOU ARE PIECES OF WHO THEY WERE!!!! Don't bother to unsub me, I'll do it myself. I know how to use the mailing list archives & live close enough to do "hands on" research if I do happen across her. I want no part of your tyrannical little list!!! > This is a G-E-N-E-A-L-O-G-I-C-A-L mail list. > > It is NOT a DNA, high cheekbones, and > "my-grandmother-was-an-Indian-because-she-had-long-pointy-toes" mail > list. If you want to discuss those things, then I'm sure there is a mail > list for them- but THIS ISN'T IT! > > I attended annual GenTech Seminar in Mesquite TX last weekend. I talked > to the people at the BYU booth--- and you are ALL wrong!!!! > > > Jerri Chasteen > List Owner

ENOUGH! Susan<><

Dear List, Sorry forgot the DNA URL here it is. http://molecular-genealogy.byu.edu/ With Best Regards Victoria Brittain Allen

Dear List and Chasteen, Doing genealogy in an area that was the hub of the Native American is one of the reason I am on this list. I don't understand why it would be called "Indian Territory Roots" if it did not include those of us with HIGH cheekbones. Here is the URL for the DNA issue. You can make your own decisions as to what is wrong. It is called the USA way to do things. And concerning the insulting remarks made by the list Mother. I vote that she should unsub herself. With Best Regards Victoria Brittain Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerri Chasteen <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:04 AM Subject: [IT ROOTS] ENOUGH ON THE DNA!! > This is a G-E-N-E-A-L-O-G-I-C-A-L mail list. > > It is NOT a DNA, high cheekbones, and > "my-grandmother-was-an-Indian-because-she-had-long-pointy-toes" mail > list. If you want to discuss those things, then I'm sure there is a mail > list for them- but THIS ISN'T IT! > > I attended annual GenTech Seminar in Mesquite TX last weekend. I talked > to the people at the BYU booth--- and you are ALL wrong!!!! > > > Jerri Chasteen > List Owner

Jerri,I have seen all the mail on the list about DNA. Frankly, it didn't concern me. Most of this type of mail eventually fades away, especially when people learn the true facts. Of all the mail about it, yours was the rudest. All that was necessary to write was the up date info you received at the seminar, which would have put everyone's mind to rest. Then, point everyone to go on to other genealogy information. You went over the edge. Personally, I found it offensive. Julia Berdecia

Here it is, the year is 2001. What a shame to see such terrible prejudice on this sight. I have enjoyed this sight off and on. The ignorance and prejudice though have finally made me so sick that I will be unsubscribing. We were all made with a brain, so lets start using it. Every where in the US that I have had the oppurtunity to live, the most honest, friendly and genuine people have been Mormons. Never once have they forced their religion or beliefs onto me. If I was interested sure, if not, no big deal. They were still genuine friends. You seem to be sitting here in ignorant judgement about a subject and people you know nothing about. True, they baptize their dead. It is a religious belief. What harm has been done. Such religious intolerance from a group of people who claim to have injustices done to them over the years. What a two faced attitude. Revenge is mine saith the Lord. We must forgive 70 x 7. One side of my family has white and black, the other side is Cherokeee/Choctaw and white. We look white until you pay attention to the features. The cheek bones, forehead, nose, and the patient and quiet demeanor. True Indian characteristics. How I would love to know by DNA which line to research next, instead of spending hundreds of dollars with dead end research resulting from prideful Americanized Indians. If you would do some research instead of being so judgemental you would find out that this is a privately funded research project with no government ties, and all information will remain private unless illegally obtained by the government. And the most important aspect, it is totally voluntary. No force. If you would notice, they are collecting samples from people in countries where there is very little if any Christianity. Sure doesn't sound like a religious or government plot to me. Sounds like people trying to find another way to link with family. Where would we be without ideas, ingenuity and progress (Most of it)? By the way, what group of people, free of charge, have donated the largest amount of information that we all benefit from in the genealogy world? The Mormons. What group of people have distorted the facts, taken the genealogy that is free and put it on their own web sites and charge a fee to use? Not the Mormons. So take your ignorance and hatred and rechannel that energy into something more positive and good. What have these people done to have ever hurt you. I certainly hope you are never judged for your religion or lack of it, race or skin color. May we all quit worrying about such non-important issues and start worrying about what is truly important. Our countries freedom. This country is falling from within, and it starts with each one of us not wanting to get along, being judgmental without thinking and getting the facts first, and plain old hatred and revenge. Try being kind, remember who you are, make the best of your life and leave a positive and good impression on those you come in contact with. Nobody needs to be remembered as a negative, complaining, and paranoid person. You cause your own grief and pain. Nobody inflicts it upon you but yourself, and you certainly are not giving a very good example of yourself in your correspondence to this sight. Try to remember what you have learned in all of your research. Remember the history throughout the world. Remember who has caused the pain and who has been kind. Most of all--Say and do kind things and don't rush to judgement when you have no facts other than a partial statement. As a genealogist you should know better!!! Thanks for letting me speak my mind. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: Nila O. Tyrrel <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [IT ROOTS] [Fwd: DNA-Pedigree] > Some people in Europe are having enough trouble because some scientist said > they were Jews and are treated badly for that although they have no idea > where the Jewish blood comes in. I have corresponded with two who have the > same last name as mine from Scotland. Is BYU doing this so they can blanket > baptize persons into their church? They want your genealogy chart to have > more names to baptize that way if they find a connection? I'll stick to my > old fashioned way. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "skm" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:18 PM > Subject: [IT ROOTS] [Fwd: DNA-Pedigree] > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --------------7B07DF35834DC41E96C4F3EC > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > > --------------7B07DF35834DC41E96C4F3EC > > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Content-Disposition: inline > > > > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 23:14:13 -0600 > > From: skm <[email protected]> > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) > > X-Accept-Language: en > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > To: humphri <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: DNA-Pedigree > > References: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > humphri----You are the perfect nut case. This has the markings of a NAZI. > > I have nothing in my family TREE or brickwall that could possibly warrant > > that. > > You need to take a pencil and paper, go to your nearest library and lock > > yourself in. Unless you are already locked up? > > If BYU is doing this then it is time to STOP them also. > > I will notify and start asking questions. > > This is illegal. It is called "Roe vs. Wade". An invasion > > of privacy. > > > > > > humphri wrote: > > > > > Wouldn't this be a perfect solution for all of us with insurmountable > > > Brickwalls? > > > Cheers Georgene > > > ======================================================== > > > BYU Assembles Database To Help Track Bloodlines > > > > > > REXBURG (AP) - A drop of blood may help people finally fill out their > > > family tree. > > > > > > Many groan at the idea of poring over ancestral charts and searching > > > through endless databases, but Brigham Young University's molecular > > > genealogy researchers may have found a way to simplify some of that > > > work. > > > > > > The scientists say people are linked in "family trees" based on genetic > > > markers. > > > Ancestors can be traced in pedigrees based on DNA that reveal > > > relationships that are not detectable in genealogies based on names, > > > written records or oral traditions, said Scott Woodward of the > > > university. > > > > > > What we are able to do is take the genetic information and assign it an > > > ancestral home," he > > > said. Last March, BYU's molecular genealogists began collecting samples > > > in Utah. As of Jan. 31, they had 8,085 samples in the United States and > > > 6,990 around the world in countries such as Oman, Egypt, England, Peru, > > > Bolivia and Chile. They intend to take 100,000 blood samples in the next > > > four years. The researchers are in eastern Idaho this week. > > > To participate in the genetic testing, people will be asked to donate > > > blood and bring a four generation pedigree chart com plete with dates > > > and places of birth. > > > > > > -- > > > "Welding Links Lineages" [email protected], Copyright (C)1986-2001 > > > Memoirs<http://aitchcrests.tripod.com/MyChildhood/> > > > Alaska Cruise 2000<http://aitchcrests.tripod.com/Alaska00trip/> > > > > H.A.Breshears:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irhpmuh/index.htm> > > > > > > 1997 Breshears Index: <http://www.angelfire.com/id/deeproots> > > > > > > ============================== > > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > > --------------7B07DF35834DC41E96C4F3EC-- > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== Indian-Territory-Roots Mailing List ==== > For full instructions to subscribe, unsubscribe and list rules, click on > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/welcome.html > To send an e-mail to the list owner: [email protected] > >

This is a G-E-N-E-A-L-O-G-I-C-A-L mail list. It is NOT a DNA, high cheekbones, and "my-grandmother-was-an-Indian-because-she-had-long-pointy-toes" mail list. If you want to discuss those things, then I'm sure there is a mail list for them- but THIS ISN'T IT! I attended annual GenTech Seminar in Mesquite TX last weekend. I talked to the people at the BYU booth--- and you are ALL wrong!!!! Jerri Chasteen List Owner

Rodney said: "Johnathan Marion Dunn. Died in Bald Hill OK IT, 9/17/36. Who was he living with? <snip>" Have you ordered his death certificate and checked the local newspapers for obituaries which might list "died at the home of---"? Also, check the funeral home (shown on the death certificate) for a file of the burial and the local monument companies to see who paid for any marker. jc

Johnathan Marion Dunn. Died in Bald Hill OK IT, 9/17/36.Who was he living with? Possibly his sister Susan Dunn. Her house burned, all family records lost? Any info. anyone may run into will be greatly appreciated!!! Rodney Dunn. [email protected]

There is also a web site about the LDS church and the DNA testing, I found it again yesterday, I have personally run across this web several times, But it is nothing to get upset about, just keep your DNA to yourself, I personally feel that this is another way that Big Brother is coming, if the insurance companies had this infomation no telling what they would do with it. I do not know if you can access the web site through the www.familysearch.org or not I will try to locate the web address for the DNA site and send it in another email.\ Susan

Dear List, I was at the doctors office and read a report about this very issue in a Time magizine. It is not "rumor" , the person that summitted this to the list was just trying to help. No need to slay the messenger. With Best Regards Victoria Brittain Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayland Ashmore <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [IT ROOTS] [Fwd: DNA-Pedigree] > The jerk that started this rumor was guessing at the purpose of BYU > efforts. Any thinking person would realize you cannot do DNA testing > unless you have material to test. DNA testing may be useful for > archeological purposes but certainly not for genealogical research. > Lets stick to our purpose in IT ROOTS and not get carried away spreading > unfounded rumors. > > WAA > > > ==== Indian-Territory-Roots Mailing List ==== > For full instructions to subscribe, unsubscribe and list rules, click on > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/welcome.html > To send an e-mail to the list owner: [email protected] > >

Bill and all Most permits were handled through the Indian court systems. Those records which survived are at OHS Archives in OKC. One would need to know the Indian county and then do a lot of reading. We at Bryan County Heritage Ass'n. have abstracted Blue County court records in 5 volumes. We have also abstracted Panola County and part of Pickens Counties as well. Monty Olsen Secretary BCHA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: Indian-Territory-Roots-D Digest V01 #18

The jerk that started this rumor was guessing at the purpose of BYU efforts. Any thinking person would realize you cannot do DNA testing unless you have material to test. DNA testing may be useful for archeological purposes but certainly not for genealogical research. Lets stick to our purpose in IT ROOTS and not get carried away spreading unfounded rumors. WAA

Some people in Europe are having enough trouble because some scientist said they were Jews and are treated badly for that although they have no idea where the Jewish blood comes in. I have corresponded with two who have the same last name as mine from Scotland. Is BYU doing this so they can blanket baptize persons into their church? They want your genealogy chart to have more names to baptize that way if they find a connection? I'll stick to my old fashioned way. ----- Original Message ----- From: "skm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:18 PM Subject: [IT ROOTS] [Fwd: DNA-Pedigree] > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------7B07DF35834DC41E96C4F3EC > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > --------------7B07DF35834DC41E96C4F3EC > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 23:14:13 -0600 > From: skm <[email protected]> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: humphri <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: DNA-Pedigree > References: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > humphri----You are the perfect nut case. This has the markings of a NAZI. > I have nothing in my family TREE or brickwall that could possibly warrant > that. > You need to take a pencil and paper, go to your nearest library and lock > yourself in. Unless you are already locked up? > If BYU is doing this then it is time to STOP them also. > I will notify and start asking questions. > This is illegal. It is called "Roe vs. Wade". An invasion > of privacy. > > > humphri wrote: > > > Wouldn't this be a perfect solution for all of us with insurmountable > > Brickwalls? > > Cheers Georgene > > ======================================================== > > BYU Assembles Database To Help Track Bloodlines > > > > REXBURG (AP) - A drop of blood may help people finally fill out their > > family tree. > > > > Many groan at the idea of poring over ancestral charts and searching > > through endless databases, but Brigham Young University's molecular > > genealogy researchers may have found a way to simplify some of that > > work. > > > > The scientists say people are linked in "family trees" based on genetic > > markers. > > Ancestors can be traced in pedigrees based on DNA that reveal > > relationships that are not detectable in genealogies based on names, > > written records or oral traditions, said Scott Woodward of the > > university. > > > > What we are able to do is take the genetic information and assign it an > > ancestral home," he > > said. Last March, BYU's molecular genealogists began collecting samples > > in Utah. As of Jan. 31, they had 8,085 samples in the United States and > > 6,990 around the world in countries such as Oman, Egypt, England, Peru, > > Bolivia and Chile. They intend to take 100,000 blood samples in the next > > four years. The researchers are in eastern Idaho this week. > > To participate in the genetic testing, people will be asked to donate > > blood and bring a four generation pedigree chart com plete with dates > > and places of birth. > > > > -- > > "Welding Links Lineages" [email protected], Copyright (C)1986-2001 > > Memoirs<http://aitchcrests.tripod.com/MyChildhood/> > > Alaska Cruise 2000<http://aitchcrests.tripod.com/Alaska00trip/> > > H.A.Breshears:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irhpmuh/index.htm> > > > > 1997 Breshears Index: <http://www.angelfire.com/id/deeproots> > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > --------------7B07DF35834DC41E96C4F3EC-- > > ______________________________

Those whites that were given permission to live in Indian Territory were officially (and genealogically) called "Intruders". In fact, at our Tulsa Library they have certain files set up with the designation "Intruders." Hope this helps. Susan<><

Hi Bill, I am in OK , and while I don't know anything about where to find the permits, I do have an early OK History Book and in it is stated, that white men, in order to live in IT had to obtain permission from the government to reside, move cattle across, or farm on IT land. Now it is my thought that if there are any records to be had on that they may be in the national Archives. Have you tried searching in NARA for that information? While it was a law, that they were supposed to have this permission, it is also a fact, that many people ignored this fact, and there was little law at that time and my understanding the goverment did very little in the way of keeping these people out. Sorry I don't have more, if you need the address for NARA I can supply that.or just go to a search engine and type it in. Lorene In OK

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7B07DF35834DC41E96C4F3EC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------7B07DF35834DC41E96C4F3EC Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 23:14:13 -0600 From: skm <[email protected]> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: humphri <[email protected]> Subject: Re: DNA-Pedigree References: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit humphri----You are the perfect nut case. This has the markings of a NAZI. I have nothing in my family TREE or brickwall that could possibly warrant that. You need to take a pencil and paper, go to your nearest library and lock yourself in. Unless you are already locked up? If BYU is doing this then it is time to STOP them also. I will notify and start asking questions. This is illegal. It is called "Roe vs. Wade". An invasion of privacy. humphri wrote: > Wouldn't this be a perfect solution for all of us with insurmountable > Brickwalls? > Cheers Georgene > ======================================================== > BYU Assembles Database To Help Track Bloodlines > > REXBURG (AP) - A drop of blood may help people finally fill out their > family tree. > > Many groan at the idea of poring over ancestral charts and searching > through endless databases, but Brigham Young University's molecular > genealogy researchers may have found a way to simplify some of that > work. > > The scientists say people are linked in “family trees” based on genetic > markers. > Ancestors can be traced in pedigrees based on DNA that reveal > relationships that are not detectable in genealogies based on names, > written records or oral traditions, said Scott Woodward of the > university. > > What we are able to do is take the genetic information and assign it an > ancestral home,” he > said. Last March, BYU's molecular genealogists began collecting samples > in Utah. As of Jan. 31, they had 8,085 samples in the United States and > 6,990 around the world in countries such as Oman, Egypt, England, Peru, > Bolivia and Chile. They intend to take 100,000 blood samples in the next > four years. The researchers are in eastern Idaho this week. > To participate in the genetic testing, people will be asked to donate > blood and bring a four generation pedigree chart com plete with dates > and places of birth. > > -- > "Welding Links Lineages" [email protected], Copyright (C)1986-2001 > Memoirs<http://aitchcrests.tripod.com/MyChildhood/> > Alaska Cruise 2000<http://aitchcrests.tripod.com/Alaska00trip/> > H.A.Breshears:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irhpmuh/index.htm> > > 1997 Breshears Index: <http://www.angelfire.com/id/deeproots> > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library --------------7B07DF35834DC41E96C4F3EC--

I am looking for the grave of my ggg grandmother Sarah Katharine McKee, she died in the town of Dewar, McIntosh County back in 1914. It's been said she's full blooded Cherokee but I have found nothing to back it up. I have looked in all the cemetery in McIntosh County and have not found her. From the death Certificate I had gotten it said she was buried near the numb 5 mine there in Dewar. Does anyone know anything about that. While surfing the net I came across some maps for 1915 and it shows that a small part of McIntosh was Cherokee Nation and the rest was Creek Nation. If anyone can help me I would be most grateful. J. Marsh [email protected]

The Odom Genealogical Library in Moultrie, GA has over 50 links for different tribes and data bases Nila ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: [IT ROOTS] Nebraska Pawnee Scouts, 1861-69 > --part1_4e.113f204d.27b56259_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The following is another source for researching Indians in Indian Territory. > It is found at Ancestry.com > > Nebraska Pawnee Scouts, 1861-69 > [Subscribers Only] > Description: > As former "Indian Territory" Nebraska still had many Native American > residents during the American Civil War. A number of these Indians > volunteered to aid Union forces operating from the territory. This database > is a list of these men and was compiled from records kept by the Adjutant > General of the state. In addition to providing such information as residence > and assigned unit, researchers will find both the scout's English and Indian > name. To those seeking information about Native Americans from Nebraska > between 1861 and 1869, this can be a helpful collection. > > Source Information: > Debra Graden. Pawnee Scouts of Nebraska. Orem, UT: Ancestry, Inc., 1999. > > > > --part1_4e.113f204d.27b56259_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <[email protected]> > Received: from rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (rly-zb02.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.2]) by air-zb02.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 12:57:37 -0500 > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (v77.27) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 12:56:58 -0500 > Received: (from [email protected]) > by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f18Htn024996; > Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:55:49 -0800 > Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:55:49 -0800 > X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu Feb 8 09:55:49 2001 > From: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:55:35 EST > Old-To: :[email protected] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Disposition: Inline > X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 > Subject: [IT ROOTS] Burns, Haney,Murphy > Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Resent-From: [email protected] > X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/6529 > X-Loop: [email protected] > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: [email protected] > > im looking for a Mattie Alice Burns > her mothers last name is Haney > Mattie m Wiley E Murphy in 1891 in lauderdale alabama > thank you Lori Ann > [email protected] > > > ==== Indian-Territory-Roots Mailing List ==== > For full instructions to subscribe, unsubscribe and list rules, click on > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/welcome.html > To send an e-mail to the list owner: [email protected] > > > --part1_4e.113f204d.27b56259_boundary-- > > ______________________________