Kristine, I appreciate your doing the lookup for us! You probably saw my post about James Jordan. Well, he had a son, some say named Freddy, some say named James, but he would have been born around 1897 to 1902 because their next oldest son was born in 1903. Freddy James (or James Freddy) only lived to be 4 or 5 years old. Because of his health, James and Frances told the family that they enrolled James Freddy so he could get health care (evidently he had health problems all his life). Now, are you willing to look up James Freddy or do we need more information. James and Frances were married in Cherryville Camp, IT, and as far as we know, lived in IT/OK all their lives. Thanks for any help! Or any ideas! Tsa na ----- Original Message ----- From: michael lipartito <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: [IT ROOTS] RE-LOOK UPS > Hello List, > To all of those who have requested look ups, I have recieved your request > and am happy to help you all. It takes time however, so I ask for your > patience. I enjoy doing these look ups and I hope they can help. I have done > look ups on this list before but since there are new folks, I wanted to > explain again what is contained in the Dawes Roll "Plus". I think it will > help you if you understand what is contained in this document. I will quote > what is written in the book because if I try to explain it I'll only end up > confusing everyone. *S* > > Dawes Roll "Plus" by Bob Blankenship > "1898 Dawes Roll "Plus" - The 1898 Dawes Roll plus Guion Miller Roll > information for those that were on both rolls. One can look forward in time > from 1898 to the 1906 Guion Miller Roll and see such things as a 1906 > surname change brought about by marriage, divorce, or adoption. Also ages, > addresses, relationships, Miller Roll number, Miller application number, > etc. This, in addition to all information provided in the original 1898 > Dawes Roll. All 36,714 Cherokee Nation Citizens of Cherokee Blood are > included." > > When I give you information on a certain individual listed on this roll, > there will be certain abbreviations I will translate them now for you. > Dawes# = enrollment number on the Dawes Roll, mill. apl.= miller roll > application number, BQ = blood quantum, milsurn= surname as it is listed on > the Guion Miller Roll. > > I will get to all of these look ups as soon as I can and will look them up > again once I can wrestle the Cherokee Roots vol1 back from my dad. Thank you > also to those of you offering to help me with my searches. I will probably > take you up on it and thank you. > > Take care and goodnight, > Kristine > > > ==== Indian-Territory-Roots Mailing List ==== > For full instructions to subscribe, unsubscribe and list rules, click on > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/welcome.html > To send an e-mail to the list owner: [email protected] _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Kristine, I appreciate your doing the lookup for us! You probably saw my post about James Jordan. Well, he had a son, some say named Freddy, some say named James, but he would have been born around 1897 to 1902 because their next oldest son was born in 1903. Freddy James (or James Freddy) only lived to be 4 or 5 years old. Because of his health, James and Frances told the family that they enrolled James Freddy so he could get health care (evidently he had health problems all his life). Now, are you willing to look up James Freddy or do we need more information. James and Frances were married in Cherryville Camp, IT, and as far as we know, lived in IT/OK all their lives. Thanks for any help! Or any ideas! Tsa na ----- Original Message ----- From: michael lipartito <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: [IT ROOTS] RE-LOOK UPS > Hello List, > To all of those who have requested look ups, I have recieved your request > and am happy to help you all. It takes time however, so I ask for your > patience. I enjoy doing these look ups and I hope they can help. I have done > look ups on this list before but since there are new folks, I wanted to > explain again what is contained in the Dawes Roll "Plus". I think it will > help you if you understand what is contained in this document. I will quote > what is written in the book because if I try to explain it I'll only end up > confusing everyone. *S* > > Dawes Roll "Plus" by Bob Blankenship > "1898 Dawes Roll "Plus" - The 1898 Dawes Roll plus Guion Miller Roll > information for those that were on both rolls. One can look forward in time > from 1898 to the 1906 Guion Miller Roll and see such things as a 1906 > surname change brought about by marriage, divorce, or adoption. Also ages, > addresses, relationships, Miller Roll number, Miller application number, > etc. This, in addition to all information provided in the original 1898 > Dawes Roll. All 36,714 Cherokee Nation Citizens of Cherokee Blood are > included." > > When I give you information on a certain individual listed on this roll, > there will be certain abbreviations I will translate them now for you. > Dawes# = enrollment number on the Dawes Roll, mill. apl.= miller roll > application number, BQ = blood quantum, milsurn= surname as it is listed on > the Guion Miller Roll. > > I will get to all of these look ups as soon as I can and will look them up > again once I can wrestle the Cherokee Roots vol1 back from my dad. Thank you > also to those of you offering to help me with my searches. I will probably > take you up on it and thank you. > > Take care and goodnight, > Kristine > > > ==== Indian-Territory-Roots Mailing List ==== > For full instructions to subscribe, unsubscribe and list rules, click on > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/welcome.html > To send an e-mail to the list owner: [email protected] _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, ya'll! I'm looking for information on my great grandparents, James J. Jordan and Frances Nichols Jordan who married at Cherryville Camp, IT in 1896. They lived in Featherston and Quinton also, then moved to a place just outside of Kiowa, OK. I would love to find James Jordan's parents names. I understand that he had at least one brother, but no one can remember his name. Some seem to remember that his parents were Jack and Sarah. James was born in Sallisaw IT in mid to late 1860s (can't find an exact date). James told very few except his own kids that they were Cherokee because he couldn't read and write and didn't want anyone to find out. At one time, the family says, James worked for the Cherokee Nation as a lawman/sherriff or something in law enforcement. James and Frances had 6 kids: Freddie or James was the oldest and he died very young; Claude was next oldest, then I don't know the order on the rest - Opal and Orfice were twins, Gladys, Jess(ie) W.. If anyone knows anything about them, please, please let me know. I've hit a brick wall on James and I'm hoping someone else knows something! Or even if you have any ideas on where to look! I'm running out of "maybes"! Thanks! Tsa na ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:54 PM Subject: [IT ROOTS] Re: Indian-Territory-Roots-D Digest V00 #349 > Hi, > I am fairly new to this list and usually just read the messages because I > really do not have anything to contribute yet. There are some very > knowledgeable people on this list and I thought they may be able to help. The > surnames I am researching are WALLER, SQUIRES, BEARD, PLETCHER & SMITH. All > in Oklahoma/IT. My question is does anyone know anything about the Sac & Fox > Nation? I cannot find anything! > > Also, > > Yellow, thank you for your explanation on the Bowen & Ward families, my > cousins are Bowens and still live in OKC. I am sorry I do not have any > information for you, I will look. > > JC, thank you for the information about the Chickasaw & Choctaws. My Waller > family lived in the Choctaw Nation, I will need to keep this in mind. > > Kristine, I did run into the NORWOOD name in Williamson County, TX. The next > time I go to the website I will look at the information more closely. > > Thank you all for everything, > > Donna > > > ==== Indian-Territory-Roots Mailing List ==== > For full instructions to subscribe, unsubscribe and list rules, click on > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/welcome.html > To send an e-mail to the list owner: [email protected] _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, ya'll! I'm looking for information on my great grandparents, James J. Jordan and Frances Nichols Jordan who married at Cherryville Camp, IT in 1896. They lived in Featherston and Quinton also, then moved to a place just outside of Kiowa, OK. I would love to find James Jordan's parents names. I understand that he had at least one brother, but no one can remember his name. Some seem to remember that his parents were Jack and Sarah. James was born in Sallisaw IT in mid to late 1860s (can't find an exact date). James told very few except his own kids that they were Cherokee because he couldn't read and write and didn't want anyone to find out. At one time, the family says, James worked for the Cherokee Nation as a lawman/sherriff or something in law enforcement. James and Frances had 6 kids: Freddie or James was the oldest and he died very young; Claude was next oldest, then I don't know the order on the rest - Opal and Orfice were twins, Gladys, Jess(ie) W.. If anyone knows anything about them, please, please let me know. I've hit a brick wall on James and I'm hoping someone else knows something! Or even if you have any ideas on where to look! I'm running out of "maybes"! Thanks! Tsa na ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:54 PM Subject: [IT ROOTS] Re: Indian-Territory-Roots-D Digest V00 #349 > Hi, > I am fairly new to this list and usually just read the messages because I > really do not have anything to contribute yet. There are some very > knowledgeable people on this list and I thought they may be able to help. The > surnames I am researching are WALLER, SQUIRES, BEARD, PLETCHER & SMITH. All > in Oklahoma/IT. My question is does anyone know anything about the Sac & Fox > Nation? I cannot find anything! > > Also, > > Yellow, thank you for your explanation on the Bowen & Ward families, my > cousins are Bowens and still live in OKC. I am sorry I do not have any > information for you, I will look. > > JC, thank you for the information about the Chickasaw & Choctaws. My Waller > family lived in the Choctaw Nation, I will need to keep this in mind. > > Kristine, I did run into the NORWOOD name in Williamson County, TX. The next > time I go to the website I will look at the information more closely. > > Thank you all for everything, > > Donna > > > ==== Indian-Territory-Roots Mailing List ==== > For full instructions to subscribe, unsubscribe and list rules, click on > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/welcome.html > To send an e-mail to the list owner: [email protected] _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

If there is an answer to the Divorce Question I would love to hear it. I have family who moved from Missouri and my have filed for divorce in IT - Haskell County. Marge Brown

Everyone has been so good to help me that I was hoping someone would do it again. I am searching for records for a couple that were divorced sometime between 1890 and 1903 before statehood. They were in the area of Sallisaw. Since the court house has no records before statehood, where might they have gotten the divorce? Does anyone have any ideas? I'm wondering if they would have had to go to Ft. Smith. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The court house in Sallisaw was not much help at all. Thanks, Gloria

Hello! I recently found the cemetery record of my (one-half) great aunt, Emma (Davis) Potes, who is buried at Sulphur, OK. Emma's mother was the sister of my great-grandmother, both of the sisters being married at different times to Tandy Walker Davis. Would like to ask a favor of some kind soul in the Sulphur area who might look up Emma's obituary. Hopefully it would list her mother's name and possibly even her maiden name. Emma died June 3, 1952 and probably would have been buried by the Dunn Mortuary. Thanks in advance to anyone that might help! --- James Davis --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

I have the Dawes CD , that was put out by the "Oklahoma Historical Society". It lists all of the Dawes rolls, including the different tribes. (Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek, Seminole, and Cherokee). It has each person's.... name, age,(at the time of the roll was taken), blood degree, gender, tribe, Census Card number, Dawes enrollment number, page number the enrollment number is located on. I would be glad to do look up's. You need to send the first and last name of the person, who was living around 1900, that you want me to look up for you. Sharon [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Would like to get a look up on Sallie Shedd who was married to Daniel Trapp. She was born about 1822 in Georgia. They moved to around Denton, Tx, then into Ark-OK Terr. Daniel died in McLain Co. OK before Sallie moved to Curry, NM. She was Choctaw according to my grandfather.

Marcelle wrote: "<snip> my ancestors.. they all appear on the Dawes Roll.. their names are "LANGLEY" Marcelle, There was more than one Langley family listed on the Dawes Roll, and it does not appear that all of them were related. You can order the Dawes applications of your known ancestors from the Muskogee OK Library, The Oklahoma Historical Society or Tahlequah, but I would suggest that you also try to see a copy of "History of Adair County" (OK) where most of the largest of the Langley families settled. There are two page length rows of Langleys listed. Also check "History of the Cherokee Indians" by Emmet Starr. Good luck jc

Hello List, Recently, I did a look up for a member of this list. When I offered to do look ups, I posted a description of what the Dawes Roll "plus" is and what it contains. That description came from the book itself. This particular look up caused a bit of confusion as this persons ancestor is on the Dawes Roll, but not in the document that I have. The reason for this is because this persons ancestors were not of Cherokee Blood. The Dawes Roll "plus" addresses only the Cherokee Citizens and only those that were of Cherokee Blood. The other four civilized tribes, the Choctaw, Creek, Chickasaw, and Seminole were not included. My husband, upon my request, read the description I initially gave all of you and agreed that it was not clear that only those of Cherokee Blood were included in the Dawes "plus" I apologize to the person with whom this point became apparent and hope this misunderstanding did not cause too much trouble. I apologize also if the description of the Dawes "plus" was unclear to anyone else. I am still happy to do any look ups for anyone wanting one. Kristine

Jim Brown wrote: " <snip> information about a Pearl Caroline Wilson, age 2, Chickasaw newborn. Census card #154 Dawes Enrollment # 134 -- <snip> (my) Caroline married Columbus Coleman Brown at Sandy Grove School, Grady County in 1911." Jim- According to page 201 of the official "Final Rolls of the Five Civilized Tribes" (published by the U.S. government and not a copy or transcribed version), the Chickasaw Newborn's ages were calculated "As at March 4, 1905" and since this person was shown as two years old, she would have been born in 1903/04. If your ancestor married in 1911, then I think we would be safe to presume that this is not your ancestor. In 1911 she would have been only 8 years old. Have you tried the 1900 U.S. census of Indian Territory? jc

Hi..What if any can you tell me of my ancestors..they all appear on the Dawes Roll..their names are "LANGLEY" anything else you can tell me would be so greatly appreciated.. Thank you...Marcelle Langley Duffel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Embrace changes, but do not repudiate your own values. ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael lipartito" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:34 PM Subject: [IT ROOTS] Clarification about the Dawes Roll "plus" > Hello List, > Recently, I did a look up for a member of this list. When I offered to do > look ups, I posted a description of what the Dawes Roll "plus" is and what > it contains. That description came from the book itself. This particular > look up caused a bit of confusion as this persons ancestor is on the Dawes > Roll, but not in the document that I have. The reason for this is because > this persons ancestors were not of Cherokee Blood. The Dawes Roll "plus" > addresses only the Cherokee Citizens and only those that were of Cherokee > Blood. The other four civilized tribes, the Choctaw, Creek, Chickasaw, and > Seminole were not included. My husband, upon my request, read the > description I initially gave all of you and agreed that it was not clear > that only those of Cherokee Blood were included in the Dawes "plus" I > apologize to the person with whom this point became apparent and hope this > misunderstanding did not cause too much trouble. I apologize also if the > description of the Dawes "plus" was unclear to anyone else. I am still happy > to do any look ups for anyone wanting one. > Kristine > > > ==== Indian-Territory-Roots Mailing List ==== > For full instructions to subscribe, unsubscribe and list rules, click on > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/welcome.html > To send an e-mail to the list owner: [email protected] >

P W Parker wrote: "Where is or was Yahola Indian Territory?" Yahola was in the old Creek Nation, and was in what is now northwest Muskogee county- 3 miles west of Taft, OK. jc

Dear List Where is or was Yahola Indian Territory? What county would it be in now? What news papers covered that area in 1897, also in 1907? Any information would be helpful. Thank you in advance. [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Am looking for information on the following family: Edward N. SHEPPARD b abt 1815 in AL. married 25 Apr 1848 to Sara Jane Johnston b abt 1830 in IL. They had the following children: Jeramiah ( Jerry Miah) b 9 Feb 1851 Sevier County, AR. d 21 Mar 1921 Yell County, AR. Mary b 1856 Sevier County, AR. Henry (Harry) Edward b 22 Mar 1857 Sevier County, AR. d 17 Jan 1931 Johnston County, OK. James William b 1859 Sevier County, AR. This family left Sevier County, AR. after the 1860 census and moved to IT just south of Tishomingo. Jeramiah or Jerry Miah spelled both ways on different documents married on 17 Oct 1877 in IT to Mary (Mollie) McVey b 1866 headstone date census date 1861 d 21 Dec 1917 Yell County, AR. Henry or Harry Edward married 7 Oct 1876 in IT to Mary Ann Gardner b 15 Nov 1852 Cuyahoga County, OH. d 28 Apr 1898 Johnston County, IT. Second marriage maybe to an Indian Lady. It is unknown if they was married or just a common law relationship. They Lady bore Henry/Harry a son born May 1905 she died May, Jun, or Jul 1906 in Tishomingo. The son name was Hester B. Sheppard. Any information on any of these people would be greatly appreciated or if someone knows where I might locate some information on them my email address is in my signature block. Many thanks. Samuel Weldon 9344 Lait Dr. El Paso, TX. 79925-6639 915-592-6935 Email [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~weldonfamily

Paula, <the book you mentioned. Is it about the CURREYs?> No, it is funeral records in Southwest City, MO. <Let me know where your Currey bunch may have originated> My G-grandfather was Samuel, b. 1843. My family have been searching for something on this line and have kept hitting a brick wall. His name had been listed as GW Currey or George Washington. I just recently got his confederate pension papers and his name is listed as Samuel. His father and mother first show up in Missouri in the early. According to an older family member they had a large family of which Samuel was the youngest. We haven't been able to find them on any census for that area. A cousin has paperwork that shows their names were George Washington Curry b. TN m. Elizabeth Jennings. b. GA. I saw a marriage record somewhere yesterday for a William Currey & Elizabeth Ivey. I have been backtracking trying to find it again, think it must have been yours. I'll keep looking :) Our Currey's are the same, spelled Curry/Currey. Any of this connect with yours? Else

While attending the GenTech Show in Mesquite, TX I picked up some CD's that were on close-out special - called "Ultimate Family Data Library", volumes PAL-00001 through 00019. I had no idea if they were any good (just "cheap"; $5.00), and have since found that they contained some records on "missing links" to some of my families in VA and PA. The problem is-- I didn't get volume PAL-00011, and according to the Master Index-- I need it! Request--: if anyone has this volume that they would be willing to part with, I'll be happy to purchase it or if anyone sees these disks being offered for sale, I would appreciate it if you would let me know. The company that produced these (Palladium Interactive) is now out of business. Thanks Jerri Chasteen

The address for the office to order copies of the Civil War pensions. Office of Archives & Records Oklahoma Dept. of Libraries 200 N. E. 18th ST. Oklahoma City, Ok. 73105-3298 Hope this helps you. O. R. Alexander ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [IT ROOTS] re:confederate pensions > I want to thank everyone for their help with my question on confederate > pensions. The national archives do not have the confederate pensions for that > time. I have already tried. I did check the link that was sent for the OK > historical society index online, but the name was not listed. I do know that > he received one, and I have found him on the ancestry,com pension index. So > next I will call the historical society. Thank you all again. I really > appreciate the help. > Gloria > > > ==== Indian-Territory-Roots Mailing List ==== > For full instructions to subscribe, unsubscribe and list rules, click on > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/welcome.html > To send an e-mail to the list owner: [email protected] >

I want to thank everyone for their help with my question on confederate pensions. The national archives do not have the confederate pensions for that time. I have already tried. I did check the link that was sent for the OK historical society index online, but the name was not listed. I do know that he received one, and I have found him on the ancestry,com pension index. So next I will call the historical society. Thank you all again. I really appreciate the help. Gloria