I like Samarjeet's views. Its pointless to play the blame game because the people are no longer alive from the era. However, we should expand our knowledge beyond the text books from school (which unfortunately have to align with the populist thought of the time). It is always better to know all perspectives. There is also volumes of information available on the net from "respected Mulsim historians" of medieval period and its free. I believe, if someone cares to give opinion then one should care to educate oneself a little bit beyond the textbooks. Here are some free books available online for those who are willing to educaten themselves to any other opinion (other than our text book knowledge). The links below is just for reference. One can dig lot more information on the internet. http://www.bharatvani.org/books/ http://www.bharatvani.org/books/tfst/chii6.htm Rai Kunwar Ajay Srivastava ----- Original Message ----- From: <samarjit.mukherjea@in.pwc.com> To: <india-royalty@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Aurangzeb of Delhi > I don't know how many among you belong to a royal family like me.But I > absolutely agree that we should try to stop the blame game.We should try > to stop bringing religion intoa picture.I strictly condemn the fact that > our ancient monuments have been damaged,historical relics have been > demolished. But no one would gain anything by infusing their anger in > this form.History is a beautiful subject,it is a narration of past events > ,under the auspices of which we should not lurk into the past but build > our paltform for a strong future.I would request everybody to forget this > topic. We all know Aurangzeb was a tyrrant ruler.We all know that Akbar > was secular.Same dynasty had given us two opposite rulers.Opinions may > differ, but as a whole we should keep in mind that Mughal era had been > a combination of brutality,anarchy,demolition as well as > benevolence,unity,secularism. > > > > > > Samarjit Mukherjea > Assistant Manager, ABAS > pwc | *connectedthinking > Plot No. Y-14, Block EP, Sector-V > Salt Lake, Kolkata-700091 > INDIA > Office : +91(33) 2357 9100 EXTN : 1139 > Facsimile : +91(33) 2357 7456/3394/7207 > Mobile : +91-9830513932 > www.pwc.com > --------------------------------------------- > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material > from any computer. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi A lot has been commented on this issue. This is not a black and white issue. I would like to clarify my position. There are two issues getting mixed up over here. First is the Hindu- Muslim issue and second is the negation of history. Regarding the first issue, we in India usualy get very emotional about history. I see no reason why muslims today should be blamed for something which happened 500 years ago. It is very similar to the Vasundhara raje scindia being asked to apologise for 1857!!!! I will not accept blame for something done by my great great grandfather. So I agree that this should not be turned into a Hindu-Muslim issue. Muslims today have nothing to do with what happened 500 years ago or what Aurangzeb did. Regarding the second issue, negation of history. I apologise for calling it a "leftist" attempt. Negation of history is very common in India and both "leftists" and "rightists" indulge in it. And it is not limited to the muslim rulers of India. A closer example - "Maratha invasion of Rajasthan and Bengal" . It was very destructive but dare say that in Maharashtra (I could be lynched for saying this) . In Maharashta, it is simply glossed over as it never happened. What I strongly feel is that history should not be negated. If Aurangzeb destroyed temples, say so. If Marathas destroyed Rajasthan and bengal say so...... As a Maratha, I dont accept any blame for what Maratha armies did and nor should muslims today. Hopefully good sense will prevail. That is my wishfull thinking. --- ajay <srivastava@vacoxmail.com> wrote: > I like Samarjeet's views. Its pointless to play the > blame game because the > people are no longer alive from the era. However, we > should expand our > knowledge beyond the text books from school (which > unfortunately have to > align with the populist thought of the time). > > It is always better to know all perspectives. There > is also volumes of > information available on the net from "respected > Mulsim historians" of > medieval period and its free. I believe, if someone > cares to give opinion > then one should care to educate oneself a little bit > beyond the textbooks. > > Here are some free books available online for those > who are willing to > educaten themselves to any other opinion (other than > our text book > knowledge). The links below is just for reference. > One can dig lot more > information on the internet. > > http://www.bharatvani.org/books/ > http://www.bharatvani.org/books/tfst/chii6.htm > > Rai Kunwar Ajay Srivastava > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <samarjit.mukherjea@in.pwc.com> > To: <india-royalty@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:10 AM > Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Aurangzeb of Delhi > > > > I don't know how many among you belong to a royal > family like me.But I > > absolutely agree that we should try to stop the > blame game.We should try > > to stop bringing religion intoa picture.I > strictly condemn the fact that > > our ancient monuments have been damaged,historical > relics have been > > demolished. But no one would gain anything by > infusing their anger in > > this form.History is a beautiful subject,it is a > narration of past events > > ,under the auspices of which we should not lurk > into the past but build > > our paltform for a strong future.I would request > everybody to forget this > > topic. We all know Aurangzeb was a tyrrant > ruler.We all know that Akbar > > was secular.Same dynasty had given us two opposite > rulers.Opinions may > > differ, but as a whole we should keep in mind > that Mughal era had been > > a combination of brutality,anarchy,demolition as > well as > > benevolence,unity,secularism. > > > > > > > > > > > > Samarjit Mukherjea > > Assistant Manager, ABAS > > pwc | *connectedthinking > > Plot No. Y-14, Block EP, Sector-V > > Salt Lake, Kolkata-700091 > > INDIA > > Office : +91(33) 2357 9100 EXTN : 1139 > > Facsimile : +91(33) 2357 7456/3394/7207 > > Mobile : +91-9830513932 > > www.pwc.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The information transmitted is intended only for > the person or entity to > > which it is addressed and may contain confidential > and/or privileged > > material. 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Dear All, I would indeed like to confine my views to matters concerning Royality, but I am also unable to resist any attempts that are touted by anyone to distort facts that are clearly visible to anyone who tries to indulge in a bit of lateral thinking. I'd like to close this topic and leave it to the wise judgement of all of you to as all of you are quite aware. But before I do that, I shall comment onthe views expressed by Learned Ashok Tyagi and Learned David Phillips on the leftists or communists. Commenting on my contention that leftists are pro-Muslim or Anti Hindu, Sh. Tyagi states inter alia that Leftists are anti-establishment. Were that true, communists may not have alligned with the church in the whole of South America, leave aside opposing it. Were that true, the communists would have made more inroads in East Bengal or Bangladesh of today, other than focussing on Nepal, and especially their suo motu declaring it a 'secular' state, where as no one demanded the Hindu Nepal to be declared so. Any observing mind would have observed that all 'progressive' Muslims who demanded and migrated to Pakistan were Leftists/Communists(Mr. David Phillips may observe this). Leftists have broken hell over the riots in Gujarat, but never did a word emerge from them when Hindus were the target of constant loot, rape and arson? I could go on with specific example, but my intent is just to support my observation about the left oriented 'historians', and nothing else. Anyone wishing to discuss anything further this is welcome to mail me individually. Best Wishes! SHYAM