Dear Mr. David Phllips, and all other readers, Indians use to speak/write/say state-forward; not diplomatic like US. Sorry, but it's fact ! Mr. Syam's concerned to show his anger ness against "Pande" as he had un-knowledgably support to Aurangzeb whereas he (Aurangzeb) was a true Anti-Hindus. I think, we should close this topic by now. SS Nathawat ----- Original Message ----- From: <DPhillips@fbm.com> To: <india-royalty@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Aurangzeb of Delhi > As an American and an outsider to Indian politics (although I have > studied Indian history and been to India many times), I am puzzled by > Shyam's statement that "Mr. Pande is a known leftist, which makes him > pro-Muslim (or anti-Hindu) by default." Leaving aside Mr. Pande's > actual views, why would it appear that a leftist orientation (and does > that mean Communist or what?) would be pro-Muslim or anti-Hindu? Islam > seems like a pretty conservative ideology to me as an outsider, and in > former times India was aligned with the USSR against a pro-US Pakistan. > So I don't understand why leftist is considered equivalent to > pro-Muslim. Can someone explain this to me? Thanks in advance. > > David Phillips > San Francisco > > -----Original Message----- > From: india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Epicure > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:54 AM > To: india-royalty@rootsweb.com > Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Aurangzeb of Delhi > > > Dear Mr Pabitra Saha, > There is a constant atempt to whitewash the 'sins' of the Mughals, and > this > is one of those numerous attempts. The possibility of tampering with > Hindu > beliefs is all the more because they have never appeared in a > collective > manner against any statement or aggression against them. > The said Mr. Pande is a known leftist, which makes him pro-Muslim (or > anti-Hindu) by default. Would anyone ask Mr. Pandey to provide any > substantial, tangible evidence to support his hypothesis? And > justification > has he coined for Mathura? > Best wishes! > SHYAM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pabitra saha" <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk> > To: "royalty" <INDIA-ROYALTY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:37 AM > Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Aurangzeb of Delhi > > > I was recently given this detail. Can anyone confirm this? > > "One of the greatest charges against Aurangzeb is of the demolition of > > Vishwanath Temple in Banaras (Varanasi). That was a fact, but Dr. Pande > unravelled the reason for it. "While Aurangzeb was passing near Varanasi > on > his way to Bengal, the Hindu Rajas in his retinue requested that if the > halt > was made for a day, their Ranis may go to Varanasi, have a dip in the > Ganges > and pay their homage to Lord Vishwanath. Aurangzeb readily agreed. > "Army pickets were posted on the five mile route to Varanasi. The > Ranis > made journey on the palkis (palanquins). They took their dip in the > Ganges > and went to the Vishwanath Temple to pay their homage. After offering > puja > (worship) all the Ranis returned except one, the Maharani of Kutch. A > thorough search was made of the temple precincts but the Rani was to be > found nowhere. "When Aurangzeb came to know of this, he was very much > enraged. He sent his senior officers to search for the Rani. Ultimately > they > found that statue of Ganesh which was fixed in the wall was a moveable > one. > When the statue was moved, they saw a flight of stairs that led to the > basement. To their horror they found the missing Rani dishonoured and > crying > deprived of all her ornaments. The basement was just beneath Lord > Vishwanath's seat." > The Rajas demanded salutary action, and "Aurangzeb ordered that as the > > sacred precincts have been despoiled, Lord Vishwanath may be moved to > some > other place, the temple be razed to the ground and the Mahant (head > priest) > be arrested and punished." ( Pande, Bishma Narain, Islam and Indian > Culture, > Khuda Bakhsh Oriental Public Library, Patna, 1987)." > > > > > with best wishes, > pks > > > --------------------------------- > Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! for Good > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ___________________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) > and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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I don't know how many among you belong to a royal family like me.But I absolutely agree that we should try to stop the blame game.We should try to stop bringing religion intoa picture.I strictly condemn the fact that our ancient monuments have been damaged,historical relics have been demolished. But no one would gain anything by infusing their anger in this form.History is a beautiful subject,it is a narration of past events ,under the auspices of which we should not lurk into the past but build our paltform for a strong future.I would request everybody to forget this topic. We all know Aurangzeb was a tyrrant ruler.We all know that Akbar was secular.Same dynasty had given us two opposite rulers.Opinions may differ, but as a whole we should keep in mind that Mughal era had been a combination of brutality,anarchy,demolition as well as benevolence,unity,secularism. Samarjit Mukherjea Assistant Manager, ABAS pwc | *connectedthinking Plot No. Y-14, Block EP, Sector-V Salt Lake, Kolkata-700091 INDIA Office : +91(33) 2357 9100 EXTN : 1139 Facsimile : +91(33) 2357 7456/3394/7207 Mobile : +91-9830513932 www.pwc.com --------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.

Hey Samarjt, to which royal family do you belong? samarjit.mukherjea@in.pwc.com wrote: I don't know how many among you belong to a royal family like me.But I absolutely agree that we should try to stop the blame game.We should try to stop bringing religion intoa picture.I strictly condemn the fact that our ancient monuments have been damaged,historical relics have been demolished. But no one would gain anything by infusing their anger in this form.History is a beautiful subject,it is a narration of past events ,under the auspices of which we should not lurk into the past but build our paltform for a strong future.I would request everybody to forget this topic. We all know Aurangzeb was a tyrrant ruler.We all know that Akbar was secular.Same dynasty had given us two opposite rulers.Opinions may differ, but as a whole we should keep in mind that Mughal era had been a combination of brutality,anarchy,demolition as well as benevolence,unity,secularism. Samarjit Mukherjea Assistant Manager, ABAS pwc | *connectedthinking Plot No. Y-14, Block EP, Sector-V Salt Lake, Kolkata-700091 INDIA Office : +91(33) 2357 9100 EXTN : 1139 Facsimile : +91(33) 2357 7456/3394/7207 Mobile : +91-9830513932 www.pwc.com --------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know how.

Hey, reshmi. I was going through your article on royalty in bollywood. I did not know that Amrita Singh was from a royal ( zamindar) family. One piece of information for you. Actually my great grandfather was a friend of Maharaja R.N. Singh Deo of Bolangir ( Orissa). I think Chandrachud Singh ( in Bollywood) is a grandson of R.N.Singh Deo.But I am not sure. Did not get reply from you.There were two more families of East Bengal that I missed out. Natore and Bhagyokul. IIf you can throw some light on Sanjoy Narayan, I would be delighted.Previously, I had thought there is no male descendant left of the Coochbehar family and the only two indirect descendants are Prodyut Deb Burman of Tripura ( Her mom is from Coochbehar) and Maharani Gayatri Devi's son. Thanks Samarjit Mukherjea Assistant Manager, ABAS pwc | *connectedthinking Plot No. Y-14, Block EP, Sector-V Salt Lake, Kolkata-700091 INDIA Office : +91(33) 2357 9100 EXTN : 1139 Facsimile : +91(33) 2357 7456/3394/7207 Mobile : +91-9830513932 www.pwc.com --------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.