Thank you very much Akshay ! You are right and the tale as well ! I just wanted to give a finishing touch to your very intersting article. Now your article can be historically correct as well. Thanks Khalid Bin Umar khalidkoraivi@yahoo.com / khalid.umar@in.ey.com akshay chavan <akshaychavan@yahoo.com> Sent by: india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com 01/11/2010 05:20 PM Thanks for sharing this important research. The source of my tale is the book " Days of the Beloved" which has tales and legends of old Hyderabad. Different books state the different tale. I have only stated the popular folklore based on the sources which I found. Your contributions is thoroughly appreciated. Regards Akshay --- On Mon, 1/11/10, Khalid.Umar@in.ey.com <Khalid.Umar@in.ey.com> wrote: > From: Khalid.Umar@in.ey.com <Khalid.Umar@in.ey.com> > Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Kulcha: The Official Emblem of the Nizams of Hyderabad > To: india-royalty@rootsweb.com > Cc: india-royalty-l@rootsweb.com, india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 12:12 PM > Dear Mr.Akshay > Though you have quoted the popular legend of Kulcha offered > to Mir > Qamar-ud-din Asaf Jah I but there are certain blunders that > need your > attention with subsequent correction. > 1- Hazrat Nizamuddin Aulia was not alive during Mir > Qamar-ud-din?s period. > Meer Qamar-ud-din was born in 1671 and died in 1748 as the > first Asaf Jah > or Nizam of Subah Dakkan. While you would know that > Nizamuddin Aulia died > in 1325 AD, some 400 years before Asaf Jah. Therefore this > attribution to > him is certainly wrong. > 2-Regarding the legend, as I would relate it later, there > are several > versions > · Once, during the Deccan > campaign, Mir Qamar-ud-din had lost his > way in the wilderness. As night was gathering, he saw a > faint, flickering > light in the distance. It turned out to be a fakir's hut. > The holy man, > who was about to sit down to his evening meal, asked the > young general to > join him. Qamar-ud-din, being hungry, did so, and during > the course of the > meal ate seven kulchas-- soft, flat discs of unleavened > bread. The fakir > urged him to eat some more. But Qamar-ud-din thanked him: > he had eaten his > fill, he said. Again the fakir urged him to eat some more. > Again > Qamar-ud-din declined politely. Then the fakir prophesied > that he would > soon become a king -- and as he had eaten seven kulchas, so > would his > dynasty rule for seven generations. > · The next oft-related tale > is that in 1724, while leaving Delhi for > the Deccan, Asaf Jah sought the blessings of a holy man. > The saint, about > to start his meal, offered the food to Asaf Jah who took a > few pieces of > the bread. The holy man kept asking him to take more. After > accepting > seven kulchas, Asaf Jah said he could take no more. The > saint then gave > his blessings and told him that he would be the first of > seven of his > dynasty to rule the Deccan. And so it came to be, for Mir > Osman Ali Khan > was the seventh and last Nizam who ruled the dominions of > Hyderabad. > · Third version ??.In one > of his journeys to the Deccan, Mir > Qamar-ud-din is said to have lost his way in a jungle. > Thirsty, hungry and > woe-bygone, he approached a saint for succor. All that the > saint could > offer him was dry baked bread (called kulcha) and plain > water. The > exhausted noble had his fill and inspite of the saint's > insistence, could > eat no more than seven loaves. Thereupon the hermit > remarked : "My son you > have eaten seven kulchas. Your dynasty will rule for seven > generations. > God bless you." > 3-Now come to my research ???I had read this tale / legend > somewhere few > years back which seemed to me quite correct not only > historically but > factually also. The fact is the Mir Qamar-ud-din Chin > Qulich Khan Asaf > Jah I was the disciple of Hazrat Nizam-ud-din Aurangabadi , > Qutub-e-Deccan > , a saint who passed away in 1729 and whose tomb still > exits at Nizamuddin > Road, Shahganj in Aurangabad. When Mir Qamar-ud-din was > sent as the Nizam > ul Mulk of Deccan, he approached his mentor and asked for > his blessings, > the saint offered him cooked meat (with bones) along with > Rotis or Qulchas > which he took 7 qulcahs to his fill?? after that the > saint foretold his > rule over the dominion for 7 generations. It came true as > all of us know. > 4 -The legend that the Asaf Jahi flag carried the symbol of > the Kulcha in > memory of the incident of his having eaten seven Kulchas. > However, the > first Nizam did not accept this theory and in his diary as > recorded by his > chief secretary, Lala Mansa Ram, the Nizam stated that > actually the flag > carried a symbol of the moon which was derived from his own > name - > Qamar-ud-din (Qamar means moon). However the tradition > still stood firm > and when a new design of the flag submitted to Nizam VI > ,itwas approved by > him in 1899 with observation that the symbol was that of a > kulcha. Such > was the force of tradition that even a specific denial by > the subject > could not withstand it??and the kulcha became the > centerpiece of the > Hyderabad coat-of-arms. It would appear everywhere, from > the golden-yellow > state flag and the velvet ministerial insignias??. down to > the rank > markings on a policeman's epaulettes. > 5-Another fact is that there were 10 Nizams in real but > only seven are > considered the accepted and recognized as the proper Asaf > Jahs or Nizams.( > 3 were not granted the titles of Asaf Jah by the then > Mughal Emperors ) > I hope my submissions would be accepted and granted the > status of > acceptance. > With regards, > Khalid Bin Umar > > > > akshay chavan <akshaychavan@yahoo.com> > > Sent by: india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com > 01/08/2010 11:39 PM > > > > > My new blog article: > > Did you know that Nizams of Hyderabad were the only royal > dynasty in the > world to have a food product on their flag and the coat of > arms! Kulcha, > the north Indian delicacy, usually eaten with chole was > their proud > emblem. But why did the mighty Nizams of Hyderabad make the > humble kulcha > as their symbol insted of more exotic hyderabadi biryani? > Check out the > folklore behind it: > > http://akshay-chavan.blogspot.com/2010/01/kulcha-official-emblem-of-nizams-of.html > > > Follow on Facebook: > > http://www.facebook.com/Theakshaychavan?ref=name#/pages/Indian-Royalty-Maharajas-and-more/128834262589 > > > Regards > Akshay Chavan The information contained in this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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