At 11:25 AM 27-02-08 +0000, you wrote:   >  This is a news which appeared recently. Any comments ? >   >  P. K . Saha >   >   >  Goddard says he is the great grandson of the Maharaja >  LONDON: Maharaja Duleep Singh seems to have acquired a new great grandson. A retired debt recovery officer in London has just discovered that the blue bloodline of the last king of the Sikhs runs through his veins. >  Bob Goddard stumbled across his royal past during a routine blood test. The 64-year-old is a regular blood donor and has the most common type of blood, O positive. But tests by the National Blood Service revealed that Goddard has an unusual combination of minor blood groups found only in people of Asian or African origins. “I’ve always been a regular blood donor,” said Goddard. “A doctor telephoned me and told me my blood group was very unusual with factors not seen in white northern Europeans,” he added. >  Goddard told a cousin who was researching their family tree about the discovery. He said said there was a mystery about who their grandfather’s parents had been. Goddard found that his grandfather Charlie Goddard was born in 1888 and was the illegitimate son of an unmarried serving maid at the aristocratic Breckles Hall in Norfolk. “She would never say who the father of her child was but it was rumoured that he was an Indian prince who stayed at Breckles Hall,” said Goddard. >  Maharaja Duleep Singh was born in 1838 and lost his kingdom to the British when he was only 11. He later set up residence in Elveden Hall in Suffolk in the UK and in 1864 married Bamba Muller, the daughter of a German missionary. She bore him three sons and three daughters ­ none of whom officially had children. >  Although Goddard said it was not impossible for Duleep Singh to be his great grandfather, it is more likely to be his second son Frederick. Prince Freddy, born in 1868 was a renowned ladies man like his father and lived at Breckles Hall when Charlie Goddard was born. Bob Goddard was born in Harrow in 1944 to Charlie’s son Stanley and his wife Olwen. Modest about his possible links to Indian royalty Goddard said “it’s interesting, but it doesn’t have any real effect on me.” > Pabitra, an interesting article which seems to have caused bit of a splash as its been covered in a number of online English and Indian papers. It certainly sounds plausible. Another article mentioned (possibly tongue in cheek) that in Tetford today it is possible to detect the Duleep Singh nose. He apparently paid for the education of a number of children. Cheers, Henry

At 04:47 AM 03-03-08 +0000, you wrote: >Unknown ruler script translates to "Raja Ratlam". Otherwise no idea. >   >  PKS > >Henry Soszynski <h.soszynski@uqconnect.net> wrote: >  Greetings, >A couple of individuals to be identified. >1. ><http://www.uq.net.au/~>http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/unknown_ruler.jpg >.. any ideas who he might be. What does the writing translate as? > >2. ><http://www.uq.net.au/~zzh>http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/Mysteryman.jpg >.. any clues as to the identity of this man? IMHO he may not be a royal at >all. The rather plain turban and the lack of medals or jewellry of any sort >seems to indicate a lower social status. > >Cheers, >Henry > Thanks for that Pabitra. It could be Raja Ranjit Singhji of Ratlam as a younger man. Cheers, Henry

Karan Singh has been the Maharaja of J&K since 1949.Perhaps we should stop calling him 'Yuvraj' now.:-) Mandeep On 03/03/2008, Allen Bahn <abahn@amcosvcs.com> wrote: > > You can write or call Youraj Karan singh.Member parliment .His wife is > from > Rana Family of Nepal.I attended his wedding cermony. > > Allen Bahn > President > American Consulting Services, Inc. > phone: 301-424-0090 > fax: 301-424-0378 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "akshay chavan" <akshaychavan@yahoo.com> > To: <india-royalty-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:50 PM > Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Rani Jagadamba Kumari Rana > > > > Hi > > > > I am looking for information on Rani Jagadamba Kumari, > > the widow of Madan Shamsher Rana of Nepal. Is there > > someone who can provide me with info? Or refer a good > > book? > > > > Regards > > Akshay > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 01:12 PM 26-02-08 -0800, you wrote: >Hi > >Regarding the hyderabad jagirdars, at this link is the >official list of all hyderabadi jagirs at the time of >its abolition in 1947. > ><http://apland.ap.nic.in/cclaweb/scan%20acts/jagirs%20regulation.htm>http: //apland.ap.nic.in/cclaweb/scan%20acts/jagirs%20regulation.htm > >The list is as follows: > >[Section 2(a)] > >List of Jamiyiat Jagirs > >1.             Paigah Asmanjahi. > >2.             Paigah Khurshid Jahi. > >3.             Paigah Vicar-ul-Umra. > >4.             Jagir of late Nawab Salar Jung Bahadur. > > > >5.             Samasthan of Wanaparthy. > >6.             Samasthan of Gadwal. > >7.             Jagir of Rajah Sham Raj Bahadur. > >8.             Jagir of Nawab Ghazi Jung Bahadur. > >9.      Jagir of late Nawab Kamal Yar Jung Bahadur. > >10.        Jagir of late Nawab Shaukat Jung Bahadur. > >11.         Jagir of late Nawab Mehdi Jung Bahadur. > >12.        Jagir of Nawab Ali Yavar Jung Bahadur. > >13.               Jagir of Nawab Dost Mohd. Khan. > >14.               Jagir of Khaja Behbud All Khan. > >15.               Jagir of Shujaat Ali Khan. > >16.               Jagir of Rabat Ali Khan. > >17.               Jagir of Mir Imdad Ali Khan, S/o. >Azad Ali Khan. > >18.     Jagir Mirza Sardar Ali Khan, Qiledar of >Malkhed. > >19.      Jagir of Lt. Col. Umar Daraz Khan, Qiledar of >Golconda. > >20.      Estate of Nawab Asker Jung Bahadur. > >21.      Estate of Nawab Suraiya Jung Bahadur. > >22.      Estate of Raja Krishna Rao. > >23.      Estate of Bhatambra. > > > An interesting list, though I can't figure out why only two samasthans are mentioned, when there were something like 16 in Hyderabad which are said to have survived till independence. The more important ones mentioned were... Wanaparthi, Gadwal, Jetprole, Amarchinta, Palvancha, Gopalpet, Gurugunta, Kollapur and Anagundi. Cheers, Henry

Greetings, A couple of individuals to be identified. 1. <http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/unknown_ruler.jpg>http://www.uq.net.au/~ zzhsoszy/ips/unknown_ruler.jpg .. any ideas who he might be. What does the writing translate as? 2. <http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/Mysteryman.jpg>http://www.uq.net.au/~zzh soszy/ips/Mysteryman.jpg .. any clues as to the identity of this man? IMHO he may not be a royal at all. The rather plain turban and the lack of medals or jewellry of any sort seems to indicate a lower social status. Cheers, Henry

Unknown ruler script translates to "Raja Ratlam". Otherwise no idea. PKS Henry Soszynski <h.soszynski@uqconnect.net> wrote: Greetings, A couple of individuals to be identified. 1. http://www.uq.net.au/~ zzhsoszy/ips/unknown_ruler.jpg .. any ideas who he might be. What does the writing translate as? 2. http://www.uq.net.au/~zzh soszy/ips/Mysteryman.jpg .. any clues as to the identity of this man? IMHO he may not be a royal at all. The rather plain turban and the lack of medals or jewellry of any sort seems to indicate a lower social status. Cheers, Henry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox.

You can write or call Youraj Karan singh.Member parliment .His wife is from Rana Family of Nepal.I attended his wedding cermony. Allen Bahn President American Consulting Services, Inc. phone: 301-424-0090 fax: 301-424-0378 ----- Original Message ----- From: "akshay chavan" <akshaychavan@yahoo.com> To: <india-royalty-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Rani Jagadamba Kumari Rana > Hi > > I am looking for information on Rani Jagadamba Kumari, > the widow of Madan Shamsher Rana of Nepal. Is there > someone who can provide me with info? Or refer a good > book? > > Regards > Akshay > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hello, I really dont know how to begin this email. I am searching for information regarding one of the ladies belonging to the royal family of Alwar. This lady is believed to have delivered a baby girl in New Delhi on September 14, 1983 @ a small clinic in New Delhi in Lajpat Nagar. The name of the clinic is Dr. Manchanda's clinic. I need this information as it is very important for me to speak to this lady. Note: I am certain of the fact that this is indeed true. I would truly appreciate it if I could get help in finding out details about the lady in reference. I know that you must be considering this to be a big joke however, I assure you that this is indeed true and not a joke becuase I do understand the consequences of all of this. Awaiting a response at the earliest. Regards, Bashuri

Hi Yes, majority of Jagirdars were Muslims. There are some prominent hindu families as well. For example Gadwal and Wanapurthy were old telagu rajas. Raja Shamraj Bahadur also called Rai-i-Rayan was a Marathi Deshastha Brahmin. Raja Rao Rambha - They were descendants of Rambhaji Nimbalkar , a maratha commander who defected to nizam. They had big jagirs in Beed and Osmanabad. Estate of Bhatambra - This is my most interesting discovery!!! I discovered that this belonged to the Jadhav family. They were descendants of famous Dhanaji Jadhav of the Santaji-Dhanaji fame. Dhanaji Jadhav's son Chandrasen Jadhav defected to the Nizam and was given an estate of Bhatambra. Strangely, Nizam was a Sunni muslim but most of the big jagirdars were either Shia or Hindus. There were no Sunni jagirdars. --- hirojirao patankar <hrpp2000@yahoo.co.in> wrote: --------------------------------- Are all jagirdars Muslims or the list includes Hindu jagirdars but Muslim titles?Thanks Patankar 27th Feb 2008 --- On Wed, 27/2/08, akshay chavan <akshaychavan@yahoo.com> wrote: From: akshay chavan <akshaychavan@yahoo.com> Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Hyderabad Jagirdars2 To: india-royalty-l@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 27 February, 2008, 2:42 AM HiRegarding the hyderabad jagirdars, at this link is theofficial list of all hyderabadi jagirs at the time ofits abolition in 1947.http://apland.ap.nic.in/cclaweb/scan%20acts/jagirs%20regulation.htmThe list is as follows:[Section 2(a)] List of Jamiyiat Jagirs1. Paigah Asmanjahi.2. Paigah Khurshid Jahi.3. Paigah Vicar-ul-Umra.4. Jagir of late Nawab Salar Jung Bahadur.5. Samasthan of Wanaparthy.6. Samasthan of Gadwal.7. Jagir of Rajah Sham Raj Bahadur.8. Jagir of Nawab Ghazi Jung Bahadur.9. Jagir of late Nawab Kamal Yar Jung Bahadur.10. Jagir of late Nawab Shaukat Jung Bahadur.11. Jagir of late Nawab Mehdi Jung Bahadur.12. Jagir of Nawab Ali Yavar Jung Bahadur.13. Jagir of Nawab Dost Mohd. Khan.14. Jagir of Khaja Behbud All Khan.15. Jagir of Shujaat Ali Khan.16. Jagir of Rabat Ali Khan.17. Jagir of Mir Imdad Ali Khan, S/o.Azad Ali Khan.18. Jagir Mirza Sardar Ali Khan, Qiledar ofMalkhed.19. Jagir of Lt. Col. Umar Daraz Khan, Qiledar ofGolconda.20. Estate of Nawab Asker Jung Bahadur.21. Estate of Nawab Suraiya Jung Bahadur.22. Estate of Raja Krishna Rao.23. Estate of Bhatambra. ____________________________________________________________________________________Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toINDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' withoutthe quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Click here. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

.tool_op img{border:0px;filter:Alpha(Opacity=60);-moz-opacity: 0.6;} .tool_op:hover img{border:0px;filter:Alpha(Opacity=100);-moz-opacity: 1;} function change_text_size1(c) { if(c==1){ this_size=GetCookie("ts"); oldClass="content11"; } else{ oldClass="content"+this_size+this_size if(this_size This is a news which appeared recently. Any comments ? P. K . Saha Goddard says he is the great grandson of the Maharaja LONDON: Maharaja Duleep Singh seems to have acquired a new great grandson. A retired debt recovery officer in London has just discovered that the blue bloodline of the last king of the Sikhs runs through his veins. Bob Goddard stumbled across his royal past during a routine blood test. The 64-year-old is a regular blood donor and has the most common type of blood, O positive. But tests by the National Blood Service revealed that Goddard has an unusual combination of minor blood groups found only in people of Asian or African origins. “I’ve always been a regular blood donor,” said Goddard. “A doctor telephoned me and told me my blood group was very unusual with factors not seen in white northern Europeans,” he added. Goddard told a cousin who was researching their family tree about the discovery. He said said there was a mystery about who their grandfather’s parents had been. Goddard found that his grandfather Charlie Goddard was born in 1888 and was the illegitimate son of an unmarried serving maid at the aristocratic Breckles Hall in Norfolk. “She would never say who the father of her child was but it was rumoured that he was an Indian prince who stayed at Breckles Hall,” said Goddard. Maharaja Duleep Singh was born in 1838 and lost his kingdom to the British when he was only 11. He later set up residence in Elveden Hall in Suffolk in the UK and in 1864 married Bamba Muller, the daughter of a German missionary. She bore him three sons and three daughters – none of whom officially had children. Although Goddard said it was not impossible for Duleep Singh to be his great grandfather, it is more likely to be his second son Frederick. Prince Freddy, born in 1968 was a renowned ladies man like his father and lived at Breckles Hall when Charlie Goddard was born. Bob Goddard was born in Harrow in 1944 to Charlie’s son Stanley and his wife Olwen. Modest about his possible links to Indian royalty Goddard said “it’s interesting, but it doesn’t have any real effect on me.” --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox.

Hi Regarding the hyderabad jagirdars, at this link is the official list of all hyderabadi jagirs at the time of its abolition in 1947. http://apland.ap.nic.in/cclaweb/scan%20acts/jagirs%20regulation.htm The list is as follows: [Section 2(a)] List of Jamiyiat Jagirs 1. Paigah Asmanjahi. 2. Paigah Khurshid Jahi. 3. Paigah Vicar-ul-Umra. 4. Jagir of late Nawab Salar Jung Bahadur. 5. Samasthan of Wanaparthy. 6. Samasthan of Gadwal. 7. Jagir of Rajah Sham Raj Bahadur. 8. Jagir of Nawab Ghazi Jung Bahadur. 9. Jagir of late Nawab Kamal Yar Jung Bahadur. 10. Jagir of late Nawab Shaukat Jung Bahadur. 11. Jagir of late Nawab Mehdi Jung Bahadur. 12. Jagir of Nawab Ali Yavar Jung Bahadur. 13. Jagir of Nawab Dost Mohd. Khan. 14. Jagir of Khaja Behbud All Khan. 15. Jagir of Shujaat Ali Khan. 16. Jagir of Rabat Ali Khan. 17. Jagir of Mir Imdad Ali Khan, S/o. Azad Ali Khan. 18. Jagir Mirza Sardar Ali Khan, Qiledar of Malkhed. 19. Jagir of Lt. Col. Umar Daraz Khan, Qiledar of Golconda. 20. Estate of Nawab Asker Jung Bahadur. 21. Estate of Nawab Suraiya Jung Bahadur. 22. Estate of Raja Krishna Rao. 23. Estate of Bhatambra. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

Can anyone provide information about folowing Thakur Uday Chand Katoch of Alelal, married Ruhi Vig. The Alelal page is not very well written. Who is Uday Chand Katoch Who is Ruhi Vig Some information in what era where they from. Born & Died ??? Source: http://www.uq.net.au/%7Ezzhsoszy/ips/a/alelal.html ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

Dear Kuldeep, You may be interested to know that a new short story by Salman Rushdie was just printed in the latest issue of "New Yorker" magazine: "The Shelter of the World." In Rushdie's story Jodha is Akbar's favorite wife, but she is a creation of his mind -- completely imaginary, therefore perfect! Kathie B.

As we learned in the history that Jodhabai was a hindu wife of Akbar and she was a sister of raja mansingh of ajmer or amer.Thats why Mharana Pratap never sat for lunch with raja manshingh. How much is this truth? Vilas pabitra saha <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Badshah Jalaludin Akbar had atleast 9 ( upto 14) Rajput wives. Whom he called Jodha affectionately is matter of conjecture? The movie ( as was Mughal-e- Azam, the story of Anar Kali) are pure figment of imagination and mainly produced for entertainment. He, according to some sources, had more wives than he could count. Any enterprising producer can weave interesting screen play from such data. PKS yagyapal singh wrote: I watched Jodha Akbar Movie its found to be totally fake , for the same I visited Delhi emperor and Jaipur page on website and found that there is some other named Rajkumari Heera Kunwar [Mariam Zamani], married to Akbar and no such Jodha . Any view which one is correct. Thanks Yagyapal Singh ----- Original Message ---- From: Henry Soszynski To: india-royalty@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:50:11 PM Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Some Election results for various Royals Greetings, The subject line says it all, if anyone has other results concerning Royals, please respond. On the Himachal Pradesh political front, Raja Virbhadra Singh of Bashar won from his constituency Rani Chandresh Kumari of Kangra-Lambagaon lost Kanwar Rani Asha Kumari of Chamba. Raj Kumar Karan Singh of Kullu also lost. Cheers, Henry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! - a smarter inbox. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The dispute on Akbar's Jodha has been there because of lack of detail knowledge of histroy. There had been a wife of Akbar, named JodhBibi, but she was not from Jaipur, instead she was from Jodhpur and real name was Rukmavati and she was a daughter of Rao Maldeo from his concubine Tipu. Jodhabai was daughter of Udai singh, and was married to AKbar's son Jahangir. For further details visit:- http://kssolanki.blogspot.com/. Kuldeep Singh samarjit.mukherjea@in.pwc.com wrote: I have read somewhere that Jodha was Akbar's daughter in law.the subject is really ambiguous Samarjit Mukherjea Assistant Manager, ABAS pwc | *connectedthinking Plot No. Y-14, Block EP, Sector-V Salt Lake, Kolkata-700091 INDIA Office : +91(33) 2357 9100 EXTN : 1139 Facsimile : +91(33) 2357 7456/3394/7207 Mobile : +91-9830513932 www.pwc.com --------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Click here.

In India, the protests by farmers and the poor against the corrupt govt is very common. You hardly expect India's grandest royal to do so. I was really amused when I read this story, How the times have changed!!! - http://www.hindu.com/2008/02/21/stories/2008022155721400.htm ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

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