OMG!!!! I was very curious and intrigued to know that the indian olympic ace, Abhinav Bindra is the 5th descendant of Sardar Hari singh Nalwa, the famous Sikh Warrior who appears to be descendant of Sadashivrao Bhau, the Maratha commander. This means that Abhinav Bindra is descendant of Sadashivrao Bhau, the Maratha commander in chief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Check this article about Abhinav Bindra's Nalwa connection: http://specials.rediff.com/sports/2008/aug/13sd4.htm Info about Hari singh Nalwa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hari_Singh_Nalwa Info about Kashibai, Hari singh's grandmoth and daughter of Sadashivrao Bhau= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashibai

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At 03:30 PM 06-08-08 -0700, you wrote: >I would greatly appreciate anybody out there who can give me or direct me to >information about the Bhangalia family/dynasty, the erstwhile rulers of >Chota and Burra Bhangal (princely family of Himachal Pradesh). Thanks >plenty. > > > >Dr. Prema Seshadri > Hello Dr. and welcome to the list. Is this family (Bhangalia) the same as the Pal (Chandrabansi) rulers of Bangahal, whose last ruler was Raja Man Pal (1749/1770) and who was the ancestor of the families of Lanodh, Paprola and Rajjer? A more complete list of these rulers is as follows.... * Raja PRITHI PAL 1719/1720, he married (amongst others), a daughter of Raja SIDH SINGH of Mandi and had issue. He died c1720. o Raja RAGHUNATH PAL (qv) o Kumari (name unknown), married Raja MAN SINGH of Kullu. o Kumari (name unknown), married the Raja of Mandi * Raja RAGHUNATH PAL 1720/1735, married and had issue. He died 1735. o Raja DALEL PAL (qv) o Mian Bhim Pal * Raja DALEL PAL 1735/1749, married and had issue. He died 1749. o Raja MAN PAL (qv) * Raja MAN PAL 1749/1770, last ruling Chief of Bangahal, Taluqdar of Lanodh, Paprola and Rajjer, married and had issue. He died 1770. o Mian Nihal Pal, died young. o Raja UCHAL PAL (qv) o Kumari (name unknown), married 1785, Raja SANSAR CHAND II of Kangra. * Raja UCHAL PAL 1770/1800, married and had issue. He died 1800. o Raja RAM PAL (qv) o Raja BAHADUR PAL (qv) o Kumari (name unknown), married the Raja of Siba. o Mian Jit Pal * Raja RAM PAL 1800/1843. died sp 1843. * Raja BAHADUR PAL 1843/1854, died sp 1854. Cheers, Henry Soszynski (List Administrator)

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I would greatly appreciate anybody out there who can give me or direct me to information about the Bhangalia family/dynasty, the erstwhile rulers of Chota and Burra Bhangal (princely family of Himachal Pradesh). Thanks plenty. Dr. Prema Seshadri dr_prema_jgd@yahoo.com drpremajgd@gmail.com tel: +968-99 22 8950

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Hello again....I just managed to get a few more names which might help trace the family of Col. Jotinder Pal Singh. Father: Rajendra Pal Singh        Mother: Sharmishta Pal (from the Pathania family) Grandfather: Prithvi Pal Singh Great Grandfather: Barad Pal   Thanks plenty.. Best regards, Prema Dr. Prema Seshadri dr_prema_jgd@yahoo.com drpremajgd@gmail.com Oman Mobile:+968 99 22 8950 Indian Mobile:+91 990 150 5572

This is absolutely fascinating...thank you! I must share with you my interest in this topic. I have a friend, Colonel Jotinder Pal Singh, retired from the Indian Army, who runs adventure camps from his beautiful resort called The Colonels Resort in Bir, Himachal Pradesh. He is the direct descendant of the Bhangalia line, whose family ruled Chota and Burra Bhangal; if you stood atop Bir Billing and look down ahead and behind, the land that you see is Chota and Burra Bhangal. I am extremely curious to trace his family, compile information and photographs and write a book. I would so appreciate your help in this.   Best regards PremaDr. Prema Seshadri dr_prema_jgd@yahoo.comdrpremajgd@gmail.comOman Mobile:+968 99 22 8950Indian Mobile:+91 990 150 5572 ----- Original Message ---- From: Henry Soszynski <h.soszynski@uqconnect.net> To: india-royalty@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2008 1:20:19 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Bhangalia... At 03:30 PM 06-08-08 -0700, you wrote: >I would greatly appreciate anybody out there who can give me or direct me to >information about the Bhangalia family/dynasty, the erstwhile rulers of >Chota and Burra Bhangal (princely family of Himachal Pradesh). Thanks >plenty. > > > >Dr. Prema Seshadri > Hello Dr. and welcome to the list. Is this family (Bhangalia) the same as the Pal (Chandrabansi) rulers of Bangahal, whose last ruler was Raja Man Pal (1749/1770) and who was the ancestor of the families of Lanodh, Paprola and Rajjer? A more complete list of these rulers is as follows....     *  Raja PRITHI PAL 1719/1720, he married (amongst others), a daughter of Raja SIDH SINGH of Mandi and had issue. He died c1720.           o Raja RAGHUNATH PAL (qv)           o Kumari (name unknown), married Raja MAN SINGH of Kullu.           o Kumari (name unknown), married the Raja of Mandi     * Raja RAGHUNATH PAL 1720/1735, married and had issue. He died 1735.           o Raja DALEL PAL (qv)           o Mian Bhim Pal     * Raja DALEL PAL 1735/1749, married and had issue. He died 1749.           o Raja MAN PAL (qv)     * Raja MAN PAL 1749/1770, last ruling Chief of Bangahal, Taluqdar of Lanodh, Paprola and Rajjer, married and had issue. He died 1770.           o Mian Nihal Pal, died young.           o Raja UCHAL PAL (qv)           o Kumari (name unknown), married 1785, Raja SANSAR CHAND II of Kangra.     * Raja UCHAL PAL 1770/1800, married and had issue. He died 1800.           o Raja RAM PAL (qv)           o Raja BAHADUR PAL (qv)           o Kumari (name unknown), married the Raja of Siba.           o Mian Jit Pal     * Raja RAM PAL 1800/1843. died sp 1843.     * Raja BAHADUR PAL 1843/1854, died sp 1854. Cheers, Henry Soszynski (List Administrator) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 11:08 AM 01-08-08 +0530, you wrote: >Hello All, > >Can anyone explain why the princely state of Baoni, MP with a small area of >313 sq kms area, no special pedigree in ancestry that we know of and no >particular affiliation to the brits, (absence of telltale signs such as >knighthoods or titles) should enjoy a privy purse of 520,000 with 11 guns? > >TO put this in perspective, this is the same privy purse accorded to Alwar, >with a far more ancient lineage, supposedly a descendant of Lord Ram, with >17 guns and an area almost 20 times that of Baoni. > >Clearly there has to be something to it. I can understand that the ruler may >have enjoyed a special relationship with the brits which was what got him >his 11 guns in the first place. But why would the Indian govt. give him such >a large privy purse? Which as I understand is calculated on 2-3 counts such >as size of state, revenue, lineage etc. > >Would be very grateful if anyone can throw some light on this. > >regards > >Arjun Nayar > Greetings, The privy Purse was solely related to the income of the Princely State, and was usually around 10% IIRC. The gun salute was determined by a number of factors which you have mentioned. The Nawabs of Baoni were agnatic relatives of the Nizam of Hyderabad, they seem to have been wealthy, (which for the British counted more than anything), and quite possibly the personal qualities of the rulers may also have been a factor. It does appear that none of them were granted a knighthood, so it does seem a trifle odd that they were so highly placed. It could also be that I have an extra nought or two in the Privy Purse :( Cheers, Henry

Henry, I think he means that he has changed his ISP and would like to receive his Indian royalty mails at his new email id bodyut28@orange.fr thanks Arjun Nayar Coordinator – Resource Mobilisation The SETU Foundation Ph & Fax: + 91 11 22711928 Mobile: +91 98734 45354 www.thesetufoundation.com -----Original Message----- From: india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of FLICHER André Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:48 AM To: INDIA-ROYALTY-L@rootsweb.com Cc: bodyul28@orange.fr Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] subscription Sorry I ne write bade in english. J'avais souscrit à vos listes, très intéressantes, j'ai été obligé de changer de fournisseur d'accès à Internet, veuillez, s'il vous plaît bien vouloir continuer à m'envoyer ce qui été destiné à l'adresse bodyul28@aol.com qui est devenue bodyut28@orange.fr Par avance, merci beaucoup Sincerely yours, FLICHER André ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM

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Hello All, Can anyone explain why the princely state of Baoni, MP with a small area of 313 sq kms area, no special pedigree in ancestry that we know of and no particular affiliation to the brits, (absence of telltale signs such as knighthoods or titles) should enjoy a privy purse of 520,000 with 11 guns? TO put this in perspective, this is the same privy purse accorded to Alwar, with a far more ancient lineage, supposedly a descendant of Lord Ram, with 17 guns and an area almost 20 times that of Baoni. Clearly there has to be something to it. I can understand that the ruler may have enjoyed a special relationship with the brits which was what got him his 11 guns in the first place. But why would the Indian govt. give him such a large privy purse? Which as I understand is calculated on 2-3 counts such as size of state, revenue, lineage etc. Would be very grateful if anyone can throw some light on this. regards Arjun Nayar Coordinator - Resource Mobilisation The SETU Foundation Ph & Fax: + 91 11 22711928 Mobile: +91 98734 45354 www.thesetufoundation.com

see http://touteroyale.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/gay-prince-visits-sweden/ Gay prince visits Sweden July 25, 2008 by Sofia Rainbow flags are flying around the Swedish capital of Stockholm as the country hosts the annual Stockholm Pride and EuroPride 2008, and in the centre of attention stands a prince from India! Prince Manvendra Singh Gohil of Rajpipla was one of three speakers at the opening ceremony that took place this evening as the ten-day long festival focusing on homo, bi- and transsexual issues kicked off. This morning the Prince, who is on his first visit to Sweden, participated in a press conference that gave the Swedish media a chance to get to know him. After seeing the EuroPride program upon his arrival, the Prince who was initially not planning on staying on, decided to remain in Stockholm for the whole ten days of events. - I’m looking forward to interesting exchanges. Many people in Sweden seem interested in India and I want to find out how you made things happen in Sweden. How did it start to move? How did the acceptance grow? The Prince, son of the current Maharaja of Rajpipla and heir to the centuries old throne, was brought up in a world of privilege and protection far away from the reality of the people. Although India is today a developing republican democracy, the former ruling families are still treated as if they were rulers of their thrones and the Gohil family is now different but lives in palaces surrounded by servants and honoured by their subjects. Following in the family’s tradition, the Prince received a conservative and very traditional upbringing followed by a thorough higher education, but all this time he never really knew who he was. Unsure about his sexual orientation and what homosexuality really was in a country where such acts are forbidden, the Prince entered an arranged marriage with Rajkumari Chandrika Kumari, daughter of Raja Dilip Singh of the Jhabua princely state in hope of getting over his phase and pleasing his surroundings. The marriage was a disaster and ended with divorce after fifteen months, still unconsummated. But still hoping for his son to have a family of his own and heirs of his own, the Maharaja and his wife set out to find their son a new wife shortly after. This proved to be too much for the Prince who was hospitalised for a nervous breakdown in 2002. In an interview, the Prince explained what happened: - Then I was getting treatment in the hospital by this psychiatrist and while he was treating me, I came out to him through one of the counselling sessions and he was very, very understanding and he said, ‘There’s nothing wrong with you. You should be proud of your sexuality.’ And it was he who actually volunteered to tell my parents about myself. It was through him I came out. It took a few years before the Prince went public with his new-found sexuality, tired of hiding his real identity to everyone, but when he did in a local newspaper in 2006 - it made headlines not only in India but around the world. Although people in his hometown burnt his portraits and his parents initially cut all ties with their son, accusing him of dishonouring the dynasty and being involved with “activities unacceptable to society”, the Maharadja has with time reconciled and accepted his son and heir. The Prince’s mother though, the Maharani, has had a much harder time accepting that her son was born with another sexual orientation and tries to avoid him as much as she can. As something of a royal celebrity and probably being the only open gay prince in India, Manvendra Singh Gohil today works actively in education and prevention around HIV/AIDS via his own organisation, the Lakshya Trust. In 2006 he was also honoured with a prize from the United Nations for his work, and in October 2007 he was a guest at the Oprah Winfrey Show. The Prince does not regret his coming out and feels that he has earned himself respect from his people for the work he has done both for education, health hand jobs in the Rajpipla state - and for his work with HIV/AIDS and gay issues in India. __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

Hi Shantanu, Thanks for correcting me. I did my own history research yesterday (meaning that I googled for it) and noted that as you said Nagaur changed hands several times during history. Starting initially as a Muslim state. But on checking for Kalvi, I see that there is no mention of it on the site. Maybe Ill just pick up the phone and ask him. regards Arjun Nayar Coordinator - Resource Mobilisation The SETU Foundation Ph & Fax: + 91 11 22711928 Mobile: +91 98734 45354 www.thesetufoundation.com -----Original Message----- From: india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shantanu Shekhawat Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:59 AM To: india-royalty@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Nagaur Hi, Correction, they are not Thakurs of Nagaur thikana but of Kalvi thikana which i believe happens to be in Nagaur district. Nagaur was under many people from time to time including Marwar, Kasli etc On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Arjun <arjun@thesetufoundation.com> wrote:

Hi, Correction, they are not Thakurs of Nagaur thikana but of Kalvi thikana which i believe happens to be in Nagaur district. Nagaur was under many people from time to time including Marwar, Kasli etc On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Arjun <arjun@thesetufoundation.com> wrote: > Dear Everyone, > > Last evening, I had the pleasure of meeting Shri Lokendra Singh Kalvi, son > of late Shri Kalyan Singh Kalvi, Thakurs of Nagaur thikana. > Today a prominent Rajput leader, Kalvi sahib kept us spellbound with his > erudition and perspective in fields as diverse as wildlife, > non-conventional > energy forms and politics of today. > Interesting were his reminisces of shooting trips with Digvijay Singh > (Diggi > Raja) of Raghogarh. Apparently he used to get regular invitations to shoot > over Diggi Raja's preserves. He also mentioned that he is uncle to Lt Col > Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore, Olympic gold medalist in double trap shooting. > The Nagaur page does not open, perhaps now may be the time to open it, eh > Henry? > > Regards all > > Arjun Nayar > > Coordinator - Resource Mobilisation > > The SETU Foundation > > > > Ph & Fax: + 91 11 22711928 > > Mobile: +91 98734 45354 > > www.thesetufoundation.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Everyone, Last evening, I had the pleasure of meeting Shri Lokendra Singh Kalvi, son of late Shri Kalyan Singh Kalvi, Thakurs of Nagaur thikana. Today a prominent Rajput leader, Kalvi sahib kept us spellbound with his erudition and perspective in fields as diverse as wildlife, non-conventional energy forms and politics of today. Interesting were his reminisces of shooting trips with Digvijay Singh (Diggi Raja) of Raghogarh. Apparently he used to get regular invitations to shoot over Diggi Raja's preserves. He also mentioned that he is uncle to Lt Col Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore, Olympic gold medalist in double trap shooting. The Nagaur page does not open, perhaps now may be the time to open it, eh Henry? Regards all Arjun Nayar Coordinator - Resource Mobilisation The SETU Foundation Ph & Fax: + 91 11 22711928 Mobile: +91 98734 45354 www.thesetufoundation.com

Dear All, I am putting my observations on the topic, which has been circulation for some days. 1. Rajamata Gayatri Devi was elected to the third Lok Sabha from Jaipur constituency on Swantra Party ticket. 2. It was not only Rajmata Gayatri Devi that Mrs. Indira Gandhi was envious of, she was also envious of Rajmata Vijaya Raje Scindia, a lady of enormous dignity an grace. 3. It was just to enjoy that sadistic pleasure, which all despotic rulers as Mrs Indira Gandhi get too find of, that she had both the Rajmata's incarcerated. But that did not satisfy her enough, so she saw to it that both of them had the company of most uncouth, flimsy and women of worst behavior in Tihar Jail. 4. The respite to Rajmata Scindia came when she was shifted to Pachmarhi (M.P). She was taken there and taken care by a M.P. Police cadre officer, who incidentally, was related to another Royal family of M.P. He out of this affiliation created a comfort zone for her there. Rajmata Gayatri Devi has to suffer more before a similar zone got created for her, that too out of adoration, and nothing else. 5. Amethi was NEWER he constituency of Mrs. Indira Gandhi. It was always Rai Bareli and Chikmangloor after she got defeated in 1977. 6. It is indeed an insult to the grace & dignity of the two Rajmata's to compare them with Mrs. I Gandhi, who institutionalised corruption in India society and polity; who deceived the Constitution, creators of our constitution, the Princes and the people, all by abolishing the privy purses and titles. It was a constitutional pledge from which Mrs I. Gandhi made the country back out, thus opening the realm of morality and pledges to debates and interpretations! If the politicians, that are elected by people, can back out of a constitutional promise is a set standard, then what compunctions do the people have from not doing so in their day to day life? No wonder we now have a population that tell lies on oath, miniscule aberrations can be overlooked! Best Wishes! SHYAM Malick -------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjun" <arjun@thesetufoundation.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:20 AM To: <consultantandy@yahoo.com>; <india-royalty@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] (no subject) > Hello all, > > Not wishing to ruffle any feathers, but calling the late Indira Gandhi a > lady, is stretching the definition a bit far. Its true that the two were > contemporaries and as Andy pointed out they did not contest from the same > constituency, but there is little doubt about their fierce rivalry, or to > do > the Rajmata justice, the fierce competitiveness in Mrs Gandhi which made > her > see (then) Maharani Gayatri Devi as a rival. > I think there is little doubt that Mrs Gandhi was behind Gayatri Devi's 5? > Month long incarceration in Tihar Jail on some absurd trumped up charges > following her win by record margin at the elections (don't know which). > Seeing how Mrs Gandhi extracted her pound of flesh for the 'slight' the > Rajmata must consider herself fortunate that she didn't have the temerity > to > challenge Mrs Gandhi on her home turf. Amethi if I'm not mistaken. > > Regards > > > Arjun Nayar > > Coordinator - Resource Mobilisation > > The SETU Foundation > > > > Ph & Fax: + 91 11 22711928 > > Mobile: +91 98734 45354 > > www.thesetufoundation.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andy Bose > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:50 AM > To: india-royalty@rootsweb.com; Rahul Biswas > Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] (no subject) > > Hi Rahul > > Thanks for the line sorry couldn't get back 2 u yesterday. > > Current Rajmata sahib of Jaipur - Gayatri Devi or Aiysha as was her > original > name of the Cooch Bihar family was married to the late Swai Maharaja Man > Singh II of Jaipur. > > Swai Maharaja Man Singh II is an adopted son he was orginally born a > shepherd Morpat Singh. > > Gayatri Devi was in Parliament as one of the founder members of the > Swatanra > Party and she and Mrs. Indira Gandhi - two well breed ladies from big > families used to oppose each other. > > But Mrs. Gandhi had - to the best of my knowledge - never stood for > elections - Parliamentary - from where Gayatri Devi was contesting and the > two ladies - with many things in common and similarities in their up > bringing and childhood have been pitched against each other on various > other > occasions but never contested an election / Parliamentary seat against > each > other. > > Regards > > Andy > > ( MKr. Partha Dhiraj Singha Bose ) > 09752091105 > > --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Rahul Biswas <rahul4640@dataone.in> wrote: > > From: Rahul Biswas <rahul4640@dataone.in> > Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] (no subject) > To: consultantandy@yahoo.com, india-royalty@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 12:25 AM > > Andy Bose wrote: >> Dear Rahul >> >> Pl pardon my ignorance but in u r mail below - which Jaypore did u mean >> ie > in which modern day state - in W. Bengal or in Rajasthan? >> >> Also when u mention Gayatri Devi r u refering to the current Rajmata >> Sahib > of Jaipur? >> >> Regards >> >> Andy >> ( Mkr. Partha Dhiraj Singha Bose ) >> > Yes Sir, the daughter of Maharaja Bhoop Bahadoor of Coach Behar. > Rahul > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1576 - Release Date: 7/27/2008 > 4:16 PM > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello all, Not wishing to ruffle any feathers, but calling the late Indira Gandhi a lady, is stretching the definition a bit far. Its true that the two were contemporaries and as Andy pointed out they did not contest from the same constituency, but there is little doubt about their fierce rivalry, or to do the Rajmata justice, the fierce competitiveness in Mrs Gandhi which made her see (then) Maharani Gayatri Devi as a rival. I think there is little doubt that Mrs Gandhi was behind Gayatri Devi's 5? Month long incarceration in Tihar Jail on some absurd trumped up charges following her win by record margin at the elections (don’t know which). Seeing how Mrs Gandhi extracted her pound of flesh for the 'slight' the Rajmata must consider herself fortunate that she didn’t have the temerity to challenge Mrs Gandhi on her home turf. Amethi if I'm not mistaken. Regards Arjun Nayar Coordinator – Resource Mobilisation The SETU Foundation Ph & Fax: + 91 11 22711928 Mobile: +91 98734 45354 www.thesetufoundation.com -----Original Message----- From: india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-royalty-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andy Bose Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:50 AM To: india-royalty@rootsweb.com; Rahul Biswas Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] (no subject) Hi Rahul   Thanks for the line sorry couldn't get back 2 u yesterday.   Current Rajmata sahib of Jaipur - Gayatri Devi or Aiysha as was her original name of the Cooch Bihar family was married to the late Swai Maharaja Man Singh II of Jaipur.   Swai Maharaja Man Singh II is an adopted son he was orginally born a shepherd Morpat Singh.   Gayatri Devi was in Parliament as one of the founder members of the Swatanra Party and she and Mrs. Indira Gandhi - two well breed ladies from big families used to oppose each other.   But Mrs. Gandhi had - to the best of my knowledge - never stood for elections - Parliamentary - from where Gayatri Devi was contesting and the two ladies - with many things in common and similarities in their up bringing and childhood have been pitched against each other on various other occasions but never contested an election / Parliamentary seat against each other.   Regards   Andy   ( MKr. Partha Dhiraj Singha Bose ) 09752091105 --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Rahul Biswas <rahul4640@dataone.in> wrote: From: Rahul Biswas <rahul4640@dataone.in> Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] (no subject) To: consultantandy@yahoo.com, india-royalty@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 12:25 AM Andy Bose wrote: > Dear Rahul > > Pl pardon my ignorance but in u r mail below - which Jaypore did u mean ie in which modern day state - in W. Bengal or in Rajasthan? > > Also when u mention Gayatri Devi r u refering to the current Rajmata Sahib of Jaipur? > > Regards > > Andy > ( Mkr. Partha Dhiraj Singha Bose ) > Yes Sir, the daughter of Maharaja Bhoop Bahadoor of Coach Behar. Rahul ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1576 - Release Date: 7/27/2008 4:16 PM

If I am not mistaken, Rajmata Gayatri Devi had won by the highest margin in the country for a Lok Sabha Poll. This record was broken later by Shri Ram Vilsa Paswan in Bihar in 1977. Regards, B.K. Singh Deo On 7/29/08, Andy Bose <consultantandy@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi Rahul > > Thanks for the line sorry couldn't get back 2 u yesterday. > > Current Rajmata sahib of Jaipur - Gayatri Devi or Aiysha as was her > original name of the Cooch Bihar family was married to the late Swai > Maharaja Man Singh II of Jaipur. > > Swai Maharaja Man Singh II is an adopted son he was orginally born a > shepherd Morpat Singh. > > Gayatri Devi was in Parliament as one of the founder members of the > Swatanra Party and she and Mrs. Indira Gandhi - two well breed ladies from > big families used to oppose each other. > > But Mrs. Gandhi had - to the best of my knowledge - never stood for > elections - Parliamentary - from where Gayatri Devi was contesting and the > two ladies - with many things in common and similarities in their up > bringing and childhood have been pitched against each other on various other > occasions but never contested an election / Parliamentary seat against each > other. > > Regards > > Andy > > ( MKr. Partha Dhiraj Singha Bose ) > 09752091105 > > --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Rahul Biswas <rahul4640@dataone.in> wrote: > > From: Rahul Biswas <rahul4640@dataone.in> > Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] (no subject) > To: consultantandy@yahoo.com, india-royalty@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 12:25 AM > > Andy Bose wrote: > > Dear Rahul > > > > Pl pardon my ignorance but in u r mail below - which Jaypore did u mean > ie > in which modern day state - in W. Bengal or in Rajasthan? > > > > Also when u mention Gayatri Devi r u refering to the current Rajmata > Sahib > of Jaipur? > > > > Regards > > > > Andy > > ( Mkr. Partha Dhiraj Singha Bose ) > > > Yes Sir, the daughter of Maharaja Bhoop Bahadoor of Coach Behar. > Rahul > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-ROYALTY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >