At 11:27  27/02/04 -0800, you wrote: >Seeking royal roots > > >The Cochin Royal Family Historical Society attempts to >track down the 13 generations of royal family members >who had a common ancestor and a rich cultural heritage > > Interesting article snipped. They have a website at <http://royalfamily.hypermart.net/>http://royalfamily.hypermart.net/ Unfortunately some of it is for members only. I didn't realise the family is as large as the article states. It would be a nightmare to try and sort it all out. I can't think of too many larger Royal Families. Cheers, Henry

At 10:20 AM 28/02/04 -0800, you wrote: >I am feeling sad to write this reply but i have come >to know that both akkalkot sisters sumitraraje and >sanyogitaraje are unmarried . I don't think they will >adopt an heir . The family will be extinct soon. > This is indeed sad news. Its always a shame when any dynasty becomes extinct. Any idea how old the sisters are? I'm guessing they would be in their late 50's/early 60's. Cheers, Henry

I am feeling sad to write this reply but i have come to know that both akkalkot sisters sumitraraje and sanyogitaraje are unmarried . I don't think they will adopt an heir . The family will be extinct soon. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

This Article is quiet chilling. _______________________________________________________ Aaj Ka Minister: Goonda King Of Kunda History-sheeter Raghuraj Pratap Singh, a minister under Kalyan, runs his own fiefdom _______________________________________________________ HE is the archetypal Chhote Thakur, straight out of a Mumbaiya Hindi potboiler. He holds court in his courtyard and delivers instant justice�slaps jurmaana (fine) on 'erring subjects' or orders a 'sound' thrashing. His subjects, poor men, women and children, touch his feet with their foreheads, pleading for mercy. Outside his fortressed Bainti Estate, people queue up every morning to offer salutations, their bodies bent at 90 degrees, hands raised in a namaste above their heads. The 'raja' in question is Kunwar Raghuraj Pratap Singh alias Raghubir Singh alias Toofan Singh alias Raja Bhaiya. He also happens to be the minister of programme implementation in Kalyan Singh's criminal-studded jumbo Cabinet. Add to this the fact that he is the most dreaded name in Pratapgarh and Allahabad districts. With 25 cases against him, ranging from cheating to murder, the honourable mantri is a prime example of criminals making it good in politics. In hometown Kunda, he is the awesome symbol of feudalism. Clad in a Rajput-style dhoti-kurta, the 28-year-old Raja Bhaiya rides majestic horses, keeps elephants, zips around in his Gypsy with armed supporters in tow. And police records say that he kills his opponents, organises kidnappings for ransom, commits dacoities and robberies. But this has never prevented Raja Bhaiya's career graph from soaring. He was barely 24 when he fought and won his first election in 1993 as an independent, against the wishes of his father, Uday Pratap Singh. Three years later, he once again jumped into the fray and barring the BJP, no party dared oppose him. Kalyan Singh himself visited Kunda to campaign for the BJP's Shyam Prasad Mishra. In a public meeting, he vowed to uproot Raja Bhaiya from Kunda: "Goonda viheen Kunda karoon, dhwaja uthai dou haath (I declare that I have taken the vow to uproot the goondas from Kunda)". But eventually, the BJP's candidate lost, and is now lodged in Pratapgarh jail in connection with a murder. Ironically, Kalyan accommodated the same "goonda from Kunda" in his cabinet. Raja Bhaiya did his bit though to extend more than a friendly hand to Kalyan. After the September 1996 elections, Raja Bhaiya took the pragmatic step of supporting Kalyan when governor Romesh Bhandari refused to ask the BJP to form a government. This time round, after Mayawati ambushed the government, Raja Bhaiya worked overtime to muster support for Kalyan. He kept in touch with a large number of MLAs who eventually helped the BJP sail through. A feat for which he was suitably rewarded with a berth in the Cabinet, and the programme implementation portfolio. Raja Bhaiya has already chalked out his plan of action. He has to implement two programmes: fulfil the aspirations of his ministry, and his riyasat (fiefdom): "I am not a politician in the traditional sense of the term. People come to me because they have faith in me. Earlier, they had to pay the cops for getting an FIR filed. Now nobody demands money from them." After the history-sheeter joined politics in 1993, he took care to build up a rapport with the people He revived the durbar, practised by his ancestors, and established his feudal supremacy. A Kunda businessman, requesting anonymity, says Raja Bhaiya often catches hold of opponents and beats them up mercilessly in public, in the marketplace or near a chauraha, just to teach others a lesson. People are so terrified that nobody dares to speak against him. Instead, they flock to his court for instant justice rather than go to the local administration. Points out Rajendra Kumar, a local: "Yehan sher aur bakri ek ghaat par paani peete hein (in the raja's court, both the lion and the goat get equal treatment)". At his Bainti Estate, the name of each visitor is noted in a register. At 9 am, the raja comes to the "court" and takes his Seat of Justice. Others squat on the ground around him. Three aides stand by the raja to help him conduct the proceedings. And then the names of the complainants are called out. The grievances could be anything between land disputes to police harassment to matrimonial discord. Usually, both parties are summoned; the raja listens to both and gives a verdict which nobody dares question. The proceedings are conducted in the Avadhi dialect. Adarsh Shukla, a student, says his uncle faced the raja's wrath: "My uncle had usurped six bighas belonging to us but when the raja asked him to return it to us, he refused. The raja ordered that my uncle be caned in public." The raja and his father follow their own unwritten law which is implemented ruthlessly. For example, in Bhadari�his father's estate�and Bainti, no one is allowed to break even a branch, let alone fell a tree. If someone is caught, say, plucking a mango, he is caned and fined or both, depending on the seriousness of the offence. The fine can range from Rs 500 to Rs 2,000or more. But Raghuraj Pratap Singh denies that he either terrorises or collects fines from them. "I may have fined my own employees, but not the people." HIS father Uday Pratap Singh, also a history-sheeter, is a staunch environmentalist. And people who defy his code have to face the maharaja's ire. He has a distaste for "English" education, despite studying at Doon School. He was averse to the idea of sending his son to school. His fear: "padh likh kar yeh bujdil ho jayega (education will make him a coward)". Raja Bha-iya, however, was given primary education, clandestinely, by his mother and graduated from Lucknow University. One of his teachers, Hausala Pandey, is his Man Friday. "My father was educated in Doon School and the environment has always been an obsession," says Raja Bhaiya. Stories of Uday Pratap's whims abound�he is so sensitive to noise pollution that he does not allow anyone to turn the ignition key of a vehicle on his premises. On a visit to the maharaja's estate, Bhadari, the Outlook team saw his son's Gypsy being lugged out to the main gate before the engine was switched on. In his own comfortable world, the maharaja has a private wireless system to keep in touch with his armed henchmen at the gates. He rarely comes out to give a darshan to his people. "As talukdars we have seen enough of forests and wild life. Now it pains me when I see that forests are disappearing. So, I've employed a retired forest ranger to look after the forest of this area," says Uday Pratap Singh. Originally, the Bhadari Estate, not too far from Bainti, belonged to Uday Pratap's uncle, Rai Bajrang Bahadur Singh, former Himachal Pradesh governor. But he didn't have a son and nephew Uday always had an eye on the estate.After his death, Uday fell out with his aunt Girija Devi and for 17 years, he was not allowed to enter the estate. Once Girija Devi passed away, Uday Pratap captured the estate. Notes his history-sheet: "He is fond of decorating himself with deadly weapons.... Wants to establish a separate state based on his illegal and anti-social ideas in this age of freedom." Uday Pratap pleads innocence and says Girija Devi was very close to Indira Gandhi and that she used this connection to "implicate me". According to police records, Uday Pratap Singh has a 20-member gang and has faced 41 criminal cases of murder, kidnapping, attempt to murder and so forth. He was once arrested under the National Security Act (NSA) too. Raja Bhaiya shares several traits with his father�the history-sheet says he began emulating his father from childhood itself. Like his father, Raja Bhaiya also runs a registered mafia gang (No D-3) with nine active members. Interestingly, one gang member, Kailash Nath Ojha, claims to be a sympathiser of the CPI-ML (Liberation), an anti-feudal party. Ojha justifies Raja Bhaiya's I-am-the-state stature and says he metes out justice to the downtrodden. "The country is celebrating the 50th year of Independence but people of Kunda haven't yet attained freedom; they are still slaves of Raja Bhaiya," said Madan Singh, in charge of Kunda police station. Singh had been in the forefront of the efforts of the former superintendent of police of Pratapgarh, Jasbir Singh, to book Raja Bhaiya and his father. The SP was transferred five days after Kalyan took over as chief minister. In Kunda, the raja is the boss. And with his elevation to minister status he will be able to crack the whip a lot harder in his hometown as well as in Lucknow __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

Seeking royal roots The Cochin Royal Family Historical Society attempts to track down the 13 generations of royal family members who had a common ancestor and a rich cultural heritage WHAT BEGAN as a desire to study the history of the Cochin royal family, which dates back to 1715, has become a lifetime passion for urologist Dr. Kocha Varma, a royal family member residing in the U.S. He has taken the initiative to set up the Cochin Royal Family Historical Society, which attempts to track down 13 generations of royal family members. Today, the Cochin royal family, whose motto is `honour is our family treasure', comprises more than a thousand members - each one independent and totally dissimilar. The Cochin royal family, which rose from humble beginnings, has its roots in Chazhoor. Attempts have been made to trace the milestones and major events of the clan in the mid-20th century during the reign of the last five maharajas -- Chowwara Theeppetta Thampuran, Midukkan Thampuran, Ravi Varma Thampuran, Kerala Varma Thampuran (Aikya Keralam Thampuran) and Parikshit Thampuran. Some of the direct descendants of these valia thampurans - Prof. Chandravali Thampuran, Prof. Vrindadevi Thampuran and others -- have been contributing to the Cochin Royal Family Historical Society by researching into the family history. It is a matter of pride for them to delve into the past and reminisce about their childhood days with their great uncles. Each of the maharajas ruled the State in his own inimitable style . Says Prof. Vrindadevi Thampuran, who is a niece of the last maharaja, Parikshit Thampuran, "As children, we were taught to consider our uncles as equivalent to God. We held them in awe. To us, they were both loving and respectable. The valia thampurans were scholarly, being well-versed in Sanskrit and English. Some of them were skilled in visha-vaidyam (special treatment for snakebite). A distinctive feature of the royal family is its matriarchal system. In those days, the women got married to Namboodiris, and their sons, by seniority, became heir to the throne. It was mandatory for them to stay at the palaces and look after the wealth and property. On the other hand, the maharajas and the other thampurans got married to Nair ladies from affluent families. Those times have changed. The present trend is to marry within the Kshatriya caste. We get glimpses of various aspects of Cochin royalty from written records available at the State archives. It is interesting to study the lifestyle and behavioural patterns of the senior members, especially the womenfolk. Education among the women of the royal family was to play a decisive role in the progress and gradual evolution of the clan, leading up to its relatively privileged position in the present society. There are at least six ladies at present, well into their seventies, who have retired as senior teachers and headmistresses from Government schools. The royalty was exposed to formal education only after 1900. Until then, the princes and the princesses underwent an exclusively private tutorship at their residential palaces. Rameshan Thampuran provided new insights into the royal lineage when he brought out the `Goshree Vamshavali' - a genealogy of the Cochin royal family tree with the four main thavazhis covering all the kovilakams. Providing a visual impact to `Goshree Vamshavali' is a unique collection of photographs of yesteryear, the brainchild of Prof. Ramakumaran Thampuran whose stupendous task in this field finally bore fruit in the form of a photo exhibition. It was featured at the thattumaalika recently, the exclusive pavilion near the Poornatrayeesha temple. These photographs speak volumes about the lives of the princes and the princesses of the 1800s. These include the Hill Palace, an erudite durbar (Panditha Sadassu) in progress, a group of young thampurans during their deeksha (religious adherence to rituals) and other memoirs of the members whose customs and culture invariably centred around the main temple with its presiding deity as Santhanagopalamoorthy. Seeri Ravi Varma, a senior member, is collaborating in the joint effort to preserve the heritage. He heads the publication department of Goshree Welfare Society, which comes out with its monthly edition of Goshree Vishesham. This magazine carries news about the royal family and its kith and kin. It also focuses on history, personalities and culture. A characteristic of the valia thampurans was their strict adherence to a simple and religious way of life, shunning all luxury and indulgence. This is followed even to this day. The maharajas were honest, noble souls who made their decisions in all faith, keeping in mind the best interests of the general public. Today, major decisions are taken by the Palace Administration Board and the Valiamma Thampuran Kovilakam Trust after consultation with the present valia thampuran (Rama Varma Kochunni Thampuran) and valiamma thampuran (Kunjhipillakkutty Thampuran) respectively. A discussion was recently held featuring Ravi Achan (ex-Ranji Trophy player), K. P. C. Anujan Bhattathirippad and Dr. Ranjith Grover, who refreshed their memories of the royal past at a symposium on Cochin Royal Family Historical Society at Kalikkotta palace, the venue for religious and cultural activities of the royal family in Tripunithura. With the break-up of the joint family system and with only a minority being entitled to the privy-purse (royal allowance), the Cochin royal family members whose stronghold is in Kottakkakom, Tripunithura, lead ordinary lives. Nevertheless, reminiscences invoke the glory of the past VANAJA VARMA __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

I read a few books at the asiatic library in bombay . Here you find old and rare books. The books I read are old and out of print. I am giving my review 1)Bhonsle of nagpur and east india company-- This gives the detailed history of the biggest princely state in india till 1857. I am amazed how little we know of this kingdom of 70,000 sq miles, almost as large as hyderabad. Details of various rulers and their campaings is given . But the best part is that every aspect such as economy, town planning , commerce trade, land revenue every detail is covered in this book . Had this state survived it would have easily dwarfed hyderabad. sadly this el dorado was lost in 1857. On scale of 10 , give this book 8. 2)Sayajirao of baroda- by fatehsinghrao gaekwad. I expected this book to be biased as it was written by his great grandson but it is not so. Mr Geakwad has been very neutral . This book covered sayaji's pubilc life from childhood till his death . His personal life is just peppered in. He was am extraordinary man who did good thing for his people . How he accomplished this in face of strong opposition from british is crux of the book. What is amazing is the this book tears to shreds the claim that princes were stooges of the british. This great ruler almost came on verge of being desposed by the british for "Sedition" . His personal life was very tragic . All his sons died very young and despite his efforts turned out to be wastrels . His daughter too was widowed at young age of 30 . His first wife died young . On the whole an excellent book and must read for all . I wish his personal life could have been in a little more detail. I give this 9 out of 10. :more reviews later __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

Greetings, Thanks to Akshay, we have been able to update the Akalkot page. It appears that following the death of the last Raja in 1965, he was succeeded by his elder daughter, Rani Sumitraraje Bhonsle. She is unmarried, which would normally preclude her from adopting a successor, so her younger sister is the most likely heir. However the law has changed, and it seems that she may be able to adopt if she wishes. The late Raja had a son outside marriage, who petitioned the Indian Government to be named as successor, however he is not accepted by the people of Akalkot. Does anyone have any further details? Cheers, Henry PS Kurundwad Senior and Masuda have had some minor updates. Also trying to find out details on the succession in Porbandar since the death of the last Maharana.

Former Cong. MP dies in fire mishap NASIK NOV. 23. A former Congress MP and the Prince of Surgana, a tehsil town of Nasik district, Dhairyashilrao Yashwantrao Pawar, died today of suffocation due to a fire at his residence, family sources said. He was 81 and is survived by two sons and a daughter. The fire which occurred following a short-circuit had gutted furniture and other items, fire brigade sources said. Mr. Pawar celebrated his 81st birthday yesterday and arrived at his bungalow from Rajasthan after attending the marriage of his grandson � Udayan Raje Bhonsale. He was Rajya Sabha member for 24 years since 1954 and closely associated with the late party leader, Bhausaheb Hiray. � PTI __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

At 02:29  20/02/04 -0800, h Singh wrote: >Hi, >Here is a link that provides addresses for some of the principalities in Uttar Pradesh. ><http://www.upportal.com/infrastructure/her_profile.asp>http://www.upporta l.com/infrastructure/her_profile.asp > > > > Thanks for reminding me about this. I found it a couple of years ago, did send of some letters. Received one response back, might try again. I have also added a new page on Badabujurg, a jagir in Jaipur. Cheers, Henry

Hi, Here is a link that provides addresses for some of the principalities in Uttar Pradesh. http://www.upportal.com/infrastructure/her_profile.asp --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want.

Greetings, Some changes as follows.... 1. Addition of some details on the Thikana of Kanai Kalan, an offshoot of the Bhinai family. 2. Addition of some details to the present Rawatsar family 3. Addition of some details to the present Nayagarh family 4. A couple of guesses to pictures 7 and 11 in the Photo Gallery (India unknown section) Cheers, Henry

Greetings, I've received the following query and I am posting here in the hope that someone may have better information. "Could you rectify these dates in the Mewar Encyclopaedia please?  Rana Sanga (Mewar Sangram Singh I 1509-1527), on page 325 is said to have died at Kalpi on January 30 1527 and on page 189 where his last battle at Khanwa was fought is said to have taken place on March 17, 1527 and the Maharana died later at Baswa. " FWIW I've seen the 16th March 1527 as the date for the battle. Cheers, Henry

Greetings, A new page has been added, that of the Jagir of Mandholi in Sikar, Jaipur. It is linked to Bansi. Cheers, Henry

Greetings, There's some minor additions and corrections as noted below.... A marriage connection between Khairagarh and Raghogarh. Addition of Alelal-Bijapur, a Jagir in Kashmir, with three marriage connections to the Jodhpur Royal Family. Kotla has been removed (it was probably wrong). .... thanks to H. Singh The following is a link to the Tripura Princely State, courtesy of Akshay. <http://www.viewtripura.com/trip_history/trip_hist.shtml>http://www.viewtri pura.com/trip_history/trip_hist.shtml Cheers, Henry

Greetings, The Kharsawan page has been updated as well as the Akalkot page (thanks to Akshay). The Kamamdhia page shows a new addition to the family of the Darbar Shri. Cheers, Henry

At 04:31  28/01/04 +0530, you wrote: >Hello, >         The State of Idar was founded in 1248 A.D. by Rao Sonigji grandson >of Raja Jaichand founder of Kanauj whose descendants ruled over Idar for 22 >generations till the year 1729 A.D. Two brothers, Rathore brothers of >Jodhpur Anand Singh and Rai Singh acquired this territory from Rao Chandra >Singh and consolidated it. From that day except for a short time when it >passed back into the hands of Raos of Polo [ now Vijaynagar] and Rehwars but >ultimately it was again reconqured by Maharaja Shiv Singh in 1751 A.D. and >remained under the sway of this Surya Vanshi Rathore Clan. Maharaja Anand >Singh was the first Maharaja of Idar. Maharaja Anand  Singh was succeeded by >his son Maharaja Shiv Singh. Maharaja Shiv Singh was succeeded by Maharaja >Bhavansingh. He had another brother Maharaj Sangram Singh. Maharaja >Bhavansingh was succeeded by his son Maharaja Gambhirsingh. Maharaj >Sangramsingh had one son Maharaj Karan Singh. Maharaja Gambhirsingh was >succeeded by his son Maharaja Jowan Singh. Maharaj Karan Singh had two sons, >Maharaj Takhatsingh and Maharaj Prithisingh. Maharaja Jowan Singh was >succeeded by his son Maharaja Kesari Singh and he in turn was succeeded by >his son Maharaja Krishnasingh [ who died young ] and he had no issue. So the >succession devolved to Maharaja Sir Pratapsinhji the eldest surviving son of >Maharaj Takhatsingh. he ascended the Throne in February 1902, he ruled for 9 >years and in May 1911, he abdicated to assume charge as Maharaja Regent of >Jodhpur, due to the demise of his nephew Maharaja Sardar Singhji of Jodhpur. >He was succeeded by his adopted son Lt.Col. His Highness Maharaja Sir Dowlat >Sir Dowlat Singhji who ruled for twenty years from 1911 to 1931. He was >succeeded by his eldest son His Highness Maharaja Shri Himmat Singhji, born >on 2nd. September 1899 and ascended the Throne on 14th. April 1931. He had >two brothers Mansingh and Madan Singh. His Highness Maharaja Himatsingh was >the founder of Himatnagar and sifted his capitol there. He was succeeded by >his son His Highness Maharaja Daljit Singh, born in 1917. He had one other >brother AmarSingh, born in 1919. His Highness Daljit Singh was succeeded by >his son His Highness Maharaja Rajendrasinhji who is the present Maharaja. He >has no brothers. His uncle Amar Singh is alive. The present Maharaja has >only one daughter. No Male heir. > > >Yours Faithfully, >Y.S. Jaideepsinh of Kotharia. > A very interesting account of the history of Idar state. Many thanks for sharing it with us. Cheers, Henry

Hello, The State of Idar was founded in 1248 A.D. by Rao Sonigji grandson of Raja Jaichand founder of Kanauj whose descendants ruled over Idar for 22 generations till the year 1729 A.D. Two brothers, Rathore brothers of Jodhpur Anand Singh and Rai Singh acquired this territory from Rao Chandra Singh and consolidated it. From that day except for a short time when it passed back into the hands of Raos of Polo [ now Vijaynagar] and Rehwars but ultimately it was again reconqured by Maharaja Shiv Singh in 1751 A.D. and remained under the sway of this Surya Vanshi Rathore Clan. Maharaja Anand Singh was the first Maharaja of Idar. Maharaja Anand Singh was succeeded by his son Maharaja Shiv Singh. Maharaja Shiv Singh was succeeded by Maharaja Bhavansingh. He had another brother Maharaj Sangram Singh. Maharaja Bhavansingh was succeeded by his son Maharaja Gambhirsingh. Maharaj Sangramsingh had one son Maharaj Karan Singh. Maharaja Gambhirsingh was succeeded by his son Maharaja Jowan Singh. Maharaj Karan Singh had two sons, Maharaj Takhatsingh and Maharaj Prithisingh. Maharaja Jowan Singh was succeeded by his son Maharaja Kesari Singh and he in turn was succeeded by his son Maharaja Krishnasingh [ who died young ] and he had no issue. So the succession devolved to Maharaja Sir Pratapsinhji the eldest surviving son of Maharaj Takhatsingh. he ascended the Throne in February 1902, he ruled for 9 years and in May 1911, he abdicated to assume charge as Maharaja Regent of Jodhpur, due to the demise of his nephew Maharaja Sardar Singhji of Jodhpur. He was succeeded by his adopted son Lt.Col. His Highness Maharaja Sir Dowlat Sir Dowlat Singhji who ruled for twenty years from 1911 to 1931. He was succeeded by his eldest son His Highness Maharaja Shri Himmat Singhji, born on 2nd. September 1899 and ascended the Throne on 14th. April 1931. He had two brothers Mansingh and Madan Singh. His Highness Maharaja Himatsingh was the founder of Himatnagar and sifted his capitol there. He was succeeded by his son His Highness Maharaja Daljit Singh, born in 1917. He had one other brother AmarSingh, born in 1919. His Highness Daljit Singh was succeeded by his son His Highness Maharaja Rajendrasinhji who is the present Maharaja. He has no brothers. His uncle Amar Singh is alive. The present Maharaja has only one daughter. No Male heir. Yours Faithfully, Y.S. Jaideepsinh of Kotharia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Soszynski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:27 PM Subject: Re: RES: [INDIA-ROYALTY] new user > At 08:51 AM 26/01/04 -0800, you wrote: > >Searching for: > > > >HH Princes of Bhagirath Singh of Himmatnagar (Idar) > >DOB +/- 1945 to date > > > If there's such a person in the Idar Royal Family, he could be a son or > grandson of Maharaj Madan Singhji, born 4th February 1912, or of Maharaj Amar > Singh, born 1919, who married Rani Surendra Kunwar of Osian. > Cheers, > Henry > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

At 09:15 AM 27/01/04 -0800, you wrote: >Henry > >Thanks for info.  I studied at St Mary?s High School in Bombay 52 to 59 and >there were three brothers - princes: Bhagirath, Ranvir but do remember the >youngest.  What is connection between Himmanagar and Idar (believe in >Maharasthra state today) >Trying to trace them for a school reunion to be held in Dec this year. > >Best regards >Francisco > Hi, I suspect that Himmatnagar was named for Maharaja Himmat Singh who ruled Idar state from 1931 to 1960, he either built a new capital naming it after himself or less likely, renamed the old capital of Idar city, anyone know?. Regarding the Princes, I'll see what I can find out. Cheers, Henry

Akshay The princes' names are: Bhagirath, Ranvir (?) and Nandkumar Singh Francisco -----Mensagem original----- De: akshay chavan [mailto:[email protected]] Enviada em: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:38 PM Para: [email protected] Assunto: Re: RES: RES: [INDIA-ROYALTY] new user > > > Hi, I suspect that Himmatnagar was named for > Maharaja Himmat Singh who ruled > Idar state from 1931 to 1960, he either built a new > capital naming it after > himself or less likely, renamed the old capital of > Idar city, anyone know?. > Regarding the Princes, I'll see what I can find out. > Cheers, > Henry > > Himmatnagar is the renamed version of old city. In old days , famous pratap singh of idar was known as ruler of himmat nagar. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

> > > Hi, I suspect that Himmatnagar was named for > Maharaja Himmat Singh who ruled > Idar state from 1931 to 1960, he either built a new > capital naming it after > himself or less likely, renamed the old capital of > Idar city, anyone know?. > Regarding the Princes, I'll see what I can find out. > Cheers, > Henry > > Himmatnagar is the renamed version of old city. In old days , famous pratap singh of idar was known as ruler of himmat nagar. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/