Greetings, The information on the Princely State of Ranasan has been updated, with the list of rulers now complete. http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/r/ranasan.html The update is made possible due to the generosity of Kumar Shri Jayendrasinh. Many thanks. Best wishes, Henry

I've received the following information and was wondering if anyone knows more. The present Maharaja of Mysore has adopted his nephew as his intended successor. He is the son of the Maharaja's late elder sister, who married Sardar Ramchandra Raj Urs. Cheers, Henry

At 11:41 AM 13/06/04 +0300, SUNDEEP wrote: >Hi, > >Sudi and Vadi refer to the two halves of the month. Sudi I think is the >first half which culminates in Poornima which is the full moon. Vadi >therefore is the second half, the dark half as it were.Bhadawa refers to >Bhadrapad. This month is known variously as Bhadarwa, Bhadarwo, Bhadon..... > >Salaams >Sundeep > Many thanks Sundeep, I can now do the calculation. Cheers, Henry

Hi, Sudi and Vadi refer to the two halves of the month. Sudi I think is the first half which culminates in Poornima which is the full moon. Vadi therefore is the second half, the dark half as it were.Bhadawa refers to Bhadrapad. This month is known variously as Bhadarwa, Bhadarwo, Bhadon..... Salaams Sundeep ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 5:38 AM Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Indian Calendar > Greetings, > What month does Bhadawa Sudi equate to in the Indian Calendar. It > doesn't appear under that name in the software program, Calendar magic, > which has the following months only. > Jyaistha > Ashadha > Sravana > Bhadrapada > Asvina > Kartika > Margarsirsha > Pausha > Magha > Phalguna > Chaitra > Vaisakha > TIA > Cheers, > Henry > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Greetings, What month does Bhadawa Sudi equate to in the Indian Calendar. It doesn't appear under that name in the software program, Calendar magic, which has the following months only. Jyaistha Ashadha Sravana Bhadrapada Asvina Kartika Margarsirsha Pausha Magha Phalguna Chaitra Vaisakha TIA Cheers, Henry

good work.. sounds very exciting.. >From: Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Additions >Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:49:12 +1000 > >Greetings, > A new page has been added on the Thikana of Namli in Ratlam, >thanks to Thakur Saheb Ranjit Sinhji. Links to Ratlam, Ranasan, Banswara, >Pratapgarh, Rajgarh and Nimbahera have also been made active. >Cheers, >Henry > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Get head-hunted by 10,000 recruiters. http://go.msnserver.com/IN/46246.asp Post your CV on naukri.com today.

Greetings, A new page has been added on the Thikana of Namli in Ratlam, thanks to Thakur Saheb Ranjit Sinhji. Links to Ratlam, Ranasan, Banswara, Pratapgarh, Rajgarh and Nimbahera have also been made active. Cheers, Henry

Does any one have good info about Dafle of Jath State ( Maharashtra)!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "akshay chavan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 2:20 AM Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Kolhapur Adoption - the real story Part-2 > In first part of my post I wrote about the first > unpopular kolhapur adoption. But the story was to > continue. > As soon as Chhatrapati Shahaji nee > vikramsinh puar became maharaja of kolhapur, he > started the revenge campaign. All those who had > opposed his adoption were denied royal pension and > prevliges. He also began systematically liquidating > the wealth of the royal family. An alcoholic , he > began selling of royal assets by pittance. Fabulous > royal jewels , gold throne of kolhapur state > everything was just sold off. Taking advantage of this > , royal retainers helped themselves with antiques > lands and mansions. I personally know few people who > were butlers and servants of the family , who now own > enormous mansions belonging to the royal family. > Here the sad and tragic story of princess > padmaraje comes into the picture. Earlier an attempt > had been made to make padmaraje the maharani with her > mother as regent . This was something which Puars had > not forgotten. With her mother an drug addict, the > little princess was at the mercy her wicked adopted > brother. Soon she would be given "Cindrella like" > treatment. While her step nieces shaliniraje, > vijayaraje and urmilaraje was given finest education, > poor padmaraje was given only basic education. > People still talk about the little princess > almost in rags, playing in the palace with the > children of the servants. She could not eat with the > royal family but eat with the staff . Padmaraje was > known to be very sweet and pretty. I dont know if this > kind of upbringing crushed her. > But the puars did not stop at this. In order > to ensure no rival claimants they decided to get > padmaraje married. shahaji's own daughters married > into the royal houses of nagpur, sandur and ankli . > But Padmaraje was deliberately married to sardar > raghojirao kadambande of torkhed , a minor landowner . > This was done deliberately so that her son could have > no claim to the gaddi. > When shahaji announced the adoption of his > nagpur grandson , all hell broke loose. People wanted > padmaraje's son to succeed the throne. As grandson to > the chhatrapati , he had greater claim to throne than > nagpur grandson of dewas ruler. There was a big hue > and cry . It became a big election issue. > Maharani Vijayamala , the second wife of > Chhatrapati Rajaram decided to make hay in the > sunshine. She stood for lok sabha elections from > kolhapur. The adoption was the main issue in the > campaign. Princess Padmaraje was used as a pawn in the > whole game. She was used to campaign in the elections. > soon maharani Vijayamala was elected to lok sabha and > then padmaraje was dumped. The protest continued for a > long time and then fizzeled out. > Today Dilipsingh Bhonsle eka > Chhatrapati Shahu is the maharaja , but has no respect > in eyes of the people. Most of the wealth of kolhapur > house has vanished. Most amazingly, when i visited the > kolhapur palace museum , maharaja's own retainers > confided in me their dislike of the maharaja. On my > every visit to the museum i find more valuables and > paintings "MISSING". What happens to them is anyone's > guess. Maharaja has stood several times for elections > and has lost. > Princess Padmaraje died in 1997. I dont have > much info about her son. This is the tragic story of > second kolhapur adoption.What is really sad is house > of chhatrapati , most highly respected maratha family > and descendants of Shivaji have come to this. Once > their status was equivalent to that of Maharana of > Mewar. Even Gwalior and Baroda with higher gun salutes > had to bow before the Chhatrapati. > ____________________________________________________ > I wrote this because there are some > things which history books don't tell us. Only human > experiences are avaliable. If u read "PUARS OF DEWAS" > or "CHHATRAPATIS OF KOLHAPUR" then it is filled with > praise about vikramsinh puar as Greatest ruler of > dewas and kolhapur. But the truth is both these books > were commisioned and financed by Puar himself for self > glorification. > I would encourage other members to write > about stories they know but have been never told. I > would also like to receive your comments, feedback or > any questions that you may have. > > Thanks > akshay > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

>From: akshay chavan <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Kolhapur Adoption - the real story Part-2 >Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 23:20:45 -0700 (PDT) > >In first part of my post I wrote about the first >unpopular kolhapur adoption. But the story was to >continue. > As soon as Chhatrapati Shahaji nee >vikramsinh puar became maharaja of kolhapur, he >started the revenge campaign. All those who had >opposed his adoption were denied royal pension and >prevliges. He also began systematically liquidating >the wealth of the royal family. An alcoholic , he >began selling of royal assets by pittance. Fabulous >royal jewels , gold throne of kolhapur state >everything was just sold off. Taking advantage of this >, royal retainers helped themselves with antiques >lands and mansions. I personally know few people who >were butlers and servants of the family , who now own >enormous mansions belonging to the royal family. > Here the sad and tragic story of princess >padmaraje comes into the picture. Earlier an attempt >had been made to make padmaraje the maharani with her >mother as regent . This was something which Puars had >not forgotten. With her mother an drug addict, the >little princess was at the mercy her wicked adopted >brother. Soon she would be given "Cindrella like" >treatment. While her step nieces shaliniraje, >vijayaraje and urmilaraje was given finest education, >poor padmaraje was given only basic education. > People still talk about the little princess >almost in rags, playing in the palace with the >children of the servants. She could not eat with the >royal family but eat with the staff . Padmaraje was >known to be very sweet and pretty. I dont know if this >kind of upbringing crushed her. > But the puars did not stop at this. In order >to ensure no rival claimants they decided to get >padmaraje married. shahaji's own daughters married >into the royal houses of nagpur, sandur and ankli . >But Padmaraje was deliberately married to sardar >raghojirao kadambande of torkhed , a minor landowner . >This was done deliberately so that her son could have >no claim to the gaddi. > When shahaji announced the adoption of his >nagpur grandson , all hell broke loose. People wanted >padmaraje's son to succeed the throne. As grandson to >the chhatrapati , he had greater claim to throne than >nagpur grandson of dewas ruler. There was a big hue >and cry . It became a big election issue. > Maharani Vijayamala , the second wife of >Chhatrapati Rajaram decided to make hay in the >sunshine. She stood for lok sabha elections from >kolhapur. The adoption was the main issue in the >campaign. Princess Padmaraje was used as a pawn in the >whole game. She was used to campaign in the elections. >soon maharani Vijayamala was elected to lok sabha and >then padmaraje was dumped. The protest continued for a >long time and then fizzeled out. > Today Dilipsingh Bhonsle eka >Chhatrapati Shahu is the maharaja , but has no respect >in eyes of the people. Most of the wealth of kolhapur >house has vanished. Most amazingly, when i visited the >kolhapur palace museum , maharaja's own retainers >confided in me their dislike of the maharaja. On my >every visit to the museum i find more valuables and >paintings "MISSING". What happens to them is anyone's >guess. Maharaja has stood several times for elections >and has lost. > Princess Padmaraje died in 1997. I dont have >much info about her son. This is the tragic story of >second kolhapur adoption.What is really sad is house >of chhatrapati , most highly respected maratha family >and descendants of Shivaji have come to this. Once >their status was equivalent to that of Maharana of >Mewar. Even Gwalior and Baroda with higher gun salutes >had to bow before the Chhatrapati. >____________________________________________________ > I wrote this because there are some >things which history books don't tell us. Only human >experiences are avaliable. If u read "PUARS OF DEWAS" >or "CHHATRAPATIS OF KOLHAPUR" then it is filled with >praise about vikramsinh puar as Greatest ruler of >dewas and kolhapur. But the truth is both these books >were commisioned and financed by Puar himself for self >glorification. > I would encourage other members to write >about stories they know but have been never told. I >would also like to receive your comments, feedback or >any questions that you may have. > > Thanks > akshay > > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. >http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger: converse com os seus amigos online. http://messenger.msn.com.br

Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> wrote: Satrucharla VIJAYARAMA RAJU , Raja of Chinna Merangi, member of the 12th Rajya Sabha There was no such candidate, which I could locate. Shri UPPALAPATI VENKATA KRISHNAM RAJU, Zamindar of ?????? in Godavari Upplapati Venkata Krishnam Raju, 64 years, lost from Naraspur, AP. He was runners up. Raja Vyricharla KISHORE CHANDRA DEO, Raja of Kurupam Kishore Chandra Suryanarayan Deo Vyricherla, 57 years, won as a tribal candidate from Parvatipuram, AP. S B P B K Satyanarayana Rao, of Kapileswarapuram There was no such candidate, which I could locate. Pusapati Ashok Gajapathi Raju, born 25th June 1951, of Vizianagram There was no such candidate, which I could locate. IN HP Raja MAHESHWAR SINGH , Raja of Kullu and his brother... Maheshwar Singh, 55 years, lost from Mandi in Hp. He was Runners up i.e. second. Here only Pratibha Singh defeated him. Dr. KARAN SINGH, born 14th October 1957 in Kullu, both politicians There was no such candidate, which I could locate.There was a Karan Singh in Haryana, at Rohtak. With best wishes, P.K.Saha --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now

I have updated the Khairigarh page with a link now enabled to Jodhpur. I'm now working on some Zamindaris of Madras, but they are confusing and incomplete. Anyone have info on the following families.... Nidadavole Vuyyur Mirzapuram Kapileswarapuram Tellaprole Medur Ventrapragada Musunur Gannavaram (all one family) as well as Bobbili Pithapuram Vizianagram Jetprole(again apparently one family) Cheers, Henry

At 05:42 AM 21/05/04 +0100, you wrote: > >akshay chavan <[email protected]> wrote: > Maharaja >of dhenkanal stood from dhenkanal in orissa on >congress ticket. His name is "something" singhdeo . > >Maharaja Kamakhya Prasad Singh Deo, 63 years, lost from Dhenkaal, Orissa. > >I wonder what happen to various andhra rulers >vizianagram, kurupam, kapleeshwaram . > >Please give their names so that I can search. > > >P.K.Saha > > Satrucharla VIJAYARAMA RAJU , Raja of Chinna Merangi, member of the 12th Rajya Sabha Shri UPPALAPATI VENKATA KRISHNAM RAJU, Zamindar of ?????? in Godavari Raja Vyricharla KISHORE CHANDRA DEO, Raja of Kurupam S B P B K Satyanarayana Rao, of Kapileswarapuram Pusapati Ashok Gajapathi Raju, born 25th June 1951, of Vizianagram IN HP Raja MAHESHWAR SINGH , Raja of Kullu and his brother... Dr. KARAN SINGH, born 14th October 1957 in Kullu, both politicians There's probably many more. Cheers, Henry

At 11:23 AM 20/05/04 +0100, you wrote: >In Pratapgarh , UP >Akshay Pratap Singh, 38 years won. >Kunwar Amaresh Singh, 51 years lost >Rajkumari Ratna Singh, 43 years lost. > >All of them claim to be local royals. >Can some one confirm? > >With best wishes, >P.K.Saha > RK Ratna Kumari, is the daughter of the late Raja Dinesh Singh of Kalakankar. Akshay Pratap Singh is either from Bhadri or Pratapgarh Taluqs, possibly son of Raja ABHAY PRATAP SINGH of Pratapgarh. They are closely related to each other. I don't know who Kr. Amaresh Singh is though. Cheers, Henry

--- pabitra saha <[email protected]> wrote: > Satyajit Sinh Gaekwar, 42 years and son of Duleep > Sinh Gaekwar of Baroda lost elections in Baroda. > > With best wishes, > P.K.Saha > > > Shubhanginiraje's loss was actually due to foolishness . Had BJP fielded her from Baroda she would have won . She is very popular in Baroda. She has not had contact with kaira region. It is really sad that she lost . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains � Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer

akshay chavan <[email protected]> wrote: Maharaja of dhenkanal stood from dhenkanal in orissa on congress ticket. His name is "something" singhdeo . Maharaja Kamakhya Prasad Singh Deo, 63 years, lost from Dhenkaal, Orissa. I wonder what happen to various andhra rulers vizianagram, kurupam, kapleeshwaram . Please give their names so that I can search. was ghorpade of mudhol was standing for karnataka elections? No candidate with Mudhol was there for India elections in 2004 from Karnatka, to the best of my knowledge. He may be candidate for Karnatka elections,which I am not following. P.K.Saha --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now

At 11:16 AM 20/05/04 +0100, you wrote: >Kunwar Sarvaraj Singh, 49 years, won from Aonla, UP in recent >elections. Is he from royal family of any place? > >With best wishes, >P.K.Saha > > Don't know him or his place. Probably the son of a Thakur. Cheers, Henry

At 11:17 AM 20/05/04 +0100, you wrote: >Kirti Vardhan Singh, 37 years, won from Gonda, UP in recent >elections. Is he from royal family of  Gonda? > >With best wishes, >P.K.Saha > Rajkumar Kirti Vardhan Singh , born 1st March 1966 in Lucknow. M.Sc. (Geology), son of the Bisen Raja of Mankapur in UP Cheers, Henry

you are welcome.. >From: "PEDRO HOT" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Royaly and current general Elections. >Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:31:37 +0100 > >Dear Sir > >Tanks for your kind answer. > >Pedro Teixeira-Pinto > > >>From: akshay chavan <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Royaly and current general Elections. >>Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:54:43 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >>--- PEDRO HOT <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Dear Sir >> > >> > I am sorry but I havenŽt understand your, kind, >> > answer. >> > >> > I am stell dont understand the meaning of the word >> > "Singh". >> > >> > I am from Portugal, so, please understand my >> > ignorance. >> > >> > Your, Pedro Teixeira-Pinto >> > >> > >> >> In hindi "singh" means lion . The rajput and sikh >>rulers used it with their name to signify masculinity. >>Even today common men use it. >> >> >> >> >>__________________________________ >>Do you Yahoo!? >>SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. >>http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ >> >> >>============================== >>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. http://www.hotmail.com > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Get Best prices on your products. http://go.msnserver.com/IN/48714.asp Register for Free on baazee.com.

At 05:45 AM 20/05/04 +0100, you wrote: >Vijayendra Pal Singh, 55 years, won from Bhilwara, Rajasthan in recent elections. Is he from royal family of Bhilwara? > >With best wishes, >P.K.Saha > Thakur VIJAYENDRA PAL SINGH of Badnore, born 12th May 1948 in Badnore, Distt. Bhilwara (Rajasthan), married 25th November 1978 Shrimant Alka Singh and has one son and one daughter. Cheers, Henry BADNORE: http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/b/badnore.html

At 05:43 AM 20/05/04 +0100, you wrote: >Manavendra Singh, 40 years, won from Barmer, Rajasthan in recent elections. Is he from royal family of Barmer? > >With best wishes, >P.K.Saha > Maj. Kunwar Manvendra Singh, born 1964, a free lance writer, presently serving with the territorial Army, married 17th June 1994, Chitrangda Kumari of Bhainsrorgarh, born 15th November 1964. Son of Maj. (Retd) Thakur Jaswant Singhji, born 3rd January 1938 in Jasol, Barmer, once suggested as a possible leader. Cheers, Henry JASOL: http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/j/jasol.html