on which website, have you added the info, could please send me the url, Henry. Thank You, Yogi --- Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings, > I have added some info to the Hindol page > and added a link from > there to the Kathiwara page. Also some updates to > Kakina, and I can't > remember if I've mentioned that I've enabled a link > to the Mughal dynasty > of Delhi. As always any additions or corrections are > welcome. > Cheers, > Henry > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about > your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com

>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:57:20 -0700 >X-From_: [email protected] Wed Nov  3 09:57:19 2004 >From: <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Old-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:57:18 -0500 >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 on UQ Mailhub >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists2.rootsweb.com id iA3GvJLF017565 >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list >Subject: {not a subscriber} About Raja Tikait Rai- request more info >X-Envelope-To: INDIA-ROYALTY-L >X-Sorbs: not_in_sorbs >X-Spam-Score: 0.285 (), 5 = high >X-UQ-Spam-Score:  UQ-Spam-Score (0.285), 5 = high Allcon- I am looking for help in unearthing the family history of Raja Tikait Rai, Diwan of Awadh during Asaf-ud-daula time and brother of Nirmal Das, who had held Bahraich and managed the Bahu Begam's jagir In the beginning of the nineteenth century. Raja Tikait Rai participated in the Ist war of Independence on behalf of Awadh and had to seek refuge after the fall of Awadh to the British forces. There are differing accounts on what happened to his family after the defeat of the Indian forces. Raja Tikait Rai's family survived and some of the decendents are spread across UP and Delhi,  but the full account of each generation and what they did and where they lived is missing. I would appreciate any insights or pointers to any historical accounts - like their palaces/houses/marriages. I have access to Raja Tikait Rai's Sizra up until the recent additionas to the ancenstor's hierarchy (in case some one needs to know something). The following names apprear to have lived during the same time and arouund the area of Gonda, Baharaich, Balrampur, Lucknow etc; Raja Datt singh, Udit Singh, Mangal Singh and Pahlwan Singh, Zalim Singh,a Surajbansi of Amarha,Sheo Prasad Singh,Raja Jai Singh, an English officer with business in salt and indigo works at Gauhani (in Digsir), Rani Phul Kunwar , Hindupat Singh ,Guman Singh., Mardan Ram & Bakhtawar Ram,  Bhawan Dutt -the  banker, Sanumam Singh,son of Madho Singh of Mahnon, Debi Baksh Singh,son of Daljeet Singh Thanks Ajay

Allcon- I am looking for help in unearthing the family history of Raja Tikait Rai, Diwan of Awadh during Asaf-ud-daula time and brother of Nirmal Das, who had held Bahraich and managed the Bahu Begam's jagir In the beginning of the nineteenth century. Raja Tikait Rai participated in the Ist war of Independence on behalf of Awadh and had to seek refuge after the fall of Awadh to the British forces. There are differing accounts on what happened to his family after the defeat of the Indian forces. Raja Tikait Rai's family survived and some of the decendents are spread across UP and Delhi, but the full account of each generation and what they did and where they lived is missing. I would appreciate any insights or pointers to any historical accounts - like their palaces/houses/marriages. I have access to Raja Tikait Rai's Sizra up until the recent additionas to the ancenstor's hierarchy (in case some one needs to know something). The following names apprear to have lived during the same time and arouund the area of Gonda, Baharaich, Balrampur, Lucknow etc; Raja Datt singh, Udit Singh, Mangal Singh and Pahlwan Singh, Zalim Singh,a Surajbansi of Amarha,Sheo Prasad Singh,Raja Jai Singh, an English officer with business in salt and indigo works at Gauhani (in Digsir), Rani Phul Kunwar , Hindupat Singh ,Guman Singh., Mardan Ram & Bakhtawar Ram, Bhawan Dutt -the banker, Sanumam Singh,son of Madho Singh of Mahnon, Debi Baksh Singh,son of Daljeet Singh Thanks Ajay

Naam ghum jayega chera ye badal jayega yaad aaye kabhi meri aawaz he pahachan hai aagar aiad rahe jane oh! kaise log kaise khushi kee manzil dhondi Yogi --- Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> wrote: > >Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:57:20 -0700 > >X-From_: [email protected] Wed Nov 3 > 09:57:19 2004 > >From: <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Old-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:57:18 -0500 > >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 on UQ Mailhub > >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 > >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit > by lists2.rootsweb.com id > iA3GvJLF017565 > >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list > >Subject: {not a subscriber} About Raja Tikait Rai- > request more info > >X-Envelope-To: INDIA-ROYALTY-L > >X-Sorbs: not_in_sorbs > >X-Spam-Score: 0.285 (), 5 = high > >X-UQ-Spam-Score: UQ-Spam-Score (0.285), 5 = high > > Allcon- I am looking for help in unearthing the > family history of Raja Tikait > Rai, Diwan of Awadh during Asaf-ud-daula time and > brother of Nirmal Das, who > had held Bahraich and managed the Bahu Begam's jagir > In the beginning of the > nineteenth century. Raja Tikait Rai participated in > the Ist war of > Independence > on behalf of Awadh and had to seek refuge after the > fall of Awadh to the > British forces. There are differing accounts on what > happened to his family > after the defeat of the Indian forces. Raja Tikait > Rai's family survived and > some of the decendents are spread across UP and > Delhi, but the full > account of > each generation and what they did and where they > lived is missing. I would > appreciate any insights or pointers to any > historical accounts - like their > palaces/houses/marriages. I have access to Raja > Tikait Rai's Sizra up until > the > recent additionas to the ancenstor's hierarchy (in > case some one needs to know > something). > > The following names apprear to have lived during the > same time and arouund the > area of Gonda, Baharaich, Balrampur, Lucknow etc; > Raja Datt singh, Udit Singh, > Mangal Singh and Pahlwan Singh, Zalim Singh,a > Surajbansi of Amarha,Sheo Prasad > Singh,Raja Jai Singh, an English officer with > business in salt and indigo > works > at Gauhani (in Digsir), Rani Phul Kunwar , Hindupat > Singh ,Guman Singh., > Mardan > Ram & Bakhtawar Ram, Bhawan Dutt -the banker, > Sanumam Singh,son of Madho > Singh of Mahnon, Debi Baksh Singh,son of Daljeet > Singh > > Thanks > Ajay > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

This is the review od the book by newspaper "THE TIMES" of UK. Maharanis by Lucy Moore REVIEWED BY MIRANDA SEYMOUR Viking �20 pp351 Lucy Moore's fascinating case study of the vivid and surprisingly emancipated lives of four fabulously wealthy Indian women opens at the extravagant and � with hindsight � ill-conceived Coronation Durbar (reception) of 1911 in Delhi, which marked the ceremonial crowning of a new emperor, George V. Inside the tasselled tents, rows brewed. Four of India's greatest princes had requested, and been denied, the chance to meet the emperor on equal terms, rather than as his subjects. Only one rebelled. The Maharajah of Baroda, the governor of one of the richest and most progressive states, chose not to comply with British expectations of how an eastern monarch ought to look. Dressed with ostentatious simplicity, the angry maharajah offered no more reverence to the new emperor than a brisk bow and a flourish of his cane, after which he turned and marched away. Calls for his deportation quickly subsided, but the British were slow to forgive the affront. One of the many virtues of Moore's engrossing study is the way that she shows how little hostility to British rule had to do with fear of western culture. Convincingly, she shows that both the Maharajah of Baroda and his strong-willed wife, Chimnabai, were Europhile to their fingertips. Baroda had been educated by an English tutor; his wife, a passionate sportswoman who shot tigers, played tennis and rollerskated in the palace corridors, went to Karlsbad with an English companion when she wanted to lose weight. To be European in taste was not, in British eyes, good enough. The empire's administrators liked their maharajahs to be foreign in attire and biddable in all things. Few, in this respect, pleased them so much as the gorgeously named Maharajah of Cooch Behar. Dazzlingly handsome, Nripendra had been given an English upbringing. Much of his spare time was spent shooting in Scotland and Ireland. When he married, he took British advice and chose Sunity Devi, a Bengali,whose father had famously declared that "the Lord in his mercy sent the British nation to rescue India". In 1887, Sunity became the first maharani to visit Britain. Back in Cooch Behar, the couple offered just the kind of hospitality that the British aristocracy appreciated. "Cooch Behar" himself beat out all the best big game for their guns, while his wife spoke gushingly of "our wonderful Empress". Eager to keep up with western ways, they nicknamed two favourite daughters "Pretty" and "Baby". It is in the next generation that Moore's story really comes into its own, with the maharanis, rather than their husbands, in the foreground. When the Barodas' elegant and wilful daughter Indira met Jit, the younger son of the Cooch Behars, her parents had already arranged for her to marry the plump Maharajah of Gwalior. Eton-educated, languid and unusually handsome, Jit won her heart and, after fierce family resistance, her hand. They married in England in 1913; the following year, Jit's brother (who had become maharajah after their father's death in 1911) died. Indira, while nowhere near as wealthy as her parents (Cooch Behar had left a trail of bills), was now a maharani with a doting husband who called her Babs and addressed his poems to "the cutest little thing that breathed on God's earth". Jit was never faithful, and he died in 1922 of alcohol poisoning. It was at this point, as the widowed Regent of Cooch Behar, that Indira began to show her mettle. Suttee, by which widows demonstrated their selfless devotion to their spouses by throwing themselves on the funeral pyre, was not to Indira's taste. Among the photographs that illustrate Moore's book, those from the 1920s portray a sophisticated woman at a hunting party in the Midlands, and on the beach at Le Touquet. A more striking one, taken when she was 40, suggests she was blessed with the unreal beauty of H Rider Haggard's heroine, Ayesha, or "She", after whom Indira named her daughter. Indira's friends included No�l Coward and Douglas Fairbanks Sr; her lovers were so numerous that she was nicknamed the Maharani of Couche Partout. High-living and a fanatical gambler, she retained the respect of her subjects, to whom she was known as "Ma", while scandalising society. It was said that the beautiful maharani sometimes danced on tables at bals masqu�s in Paris, dressed only in an emerald necklace. It seems quite likely. Indira is, in many ways, the most compelling of the maharanis; it is hard to resist Moore's stories of her. Asked in Europe for her name at airport immigration, for instance, she was fiercely disobliging. ("I have no surname. What do you call the Queen of England. I am her Highness Indira of Cooch Behar.") Life was harder for the last of Moore's four maharanis, Indira's daughter, Ayesha. Still alive today, Ayesha remains a forceful and elegant woman whose influence is strikingly apparent in Moore's account of her extraordinary life. As the young Maharani of Jaipur, Ayesha was fortunate to have a husband ("Jai") who supported her political career and shared her faith in the new and better India that would emerge from Independence. "Jai" willingly gave up his palaces, his rights and even the ancient name of his province for the sake of the country he loved. He believed that he and Ayesha would still have a political role to play, as advisors and administrators of a modernised kingdom. In this, as Moore movingly relates, he was mistaken. It is clear during this closing section that Moore is entirely on the side of Ayesha. It is hard not to share her view. Jai and Ayesha were tricked out of power by Indira Gandhi and her followers. They lost almost everything. As a widow, Ayesha continued to campaign and to speak out against the corrupt government of Indira Gandhi, her former schoolmate. In parliament, Mrs Gandhi denounced her aristocratic critic as "the glass doll" and "the bitch". In 1975, she went further. Tax inspectors were sent to raid Ayesha's home. The discovery of a few pounds and francs was enough to have her jailed for six months; when she was released, she was kept on a tight parole that effectively prolonged her imprisonment. Indira Gandhi was assassinated; Ayesha survived. Moore closes this absorbingly intelligent and thoughtful book with a meditation on what has been lost � the palaces, the great international houseparties and frolics, a life that maintained the splendours of Edwardian England in a foreign setting. But regret seems the wrong response to Ayesha, a lively, strong-willed octogenarian who, asked recently for her beauty tips, ascribed her handsome looks to boot-blacking on her hair and a bottle of whisky a day. The many signs of Ayesha's influence and vivid personality in Moore's study add to its unusually strong feeling of authenticity. ________________________________________________ This review is from "THE INDEPENDENT" Maharanis, by Lucy Moore Dying for a turn in front of the camera By Virginia Rounding 13 October 2004 This book has a huge cast list. The four Maharanis or "great queens" of Lucy Moore's title are Chimnabai, second wife of Sayajirao III, Maharaja of Baroda from1875 to 1938; Sunity, wife of Nripendra, Maharaja of Cooch Behar from 1863 to 1911; Indira, wife of Jitendra, Maharaja of Cooch Behar from 1913 to 1922 (daughter of Chimnabai, and daughter-in-law of Sunity); and Ayesha, Indira's daughter and third wife of Jai, Maharaja of Jaipur from 1923 to 1970. These women were redoubtable in their own right, but as their lives were so closely bound up with their overlapping families, Moore has had to include all their sons, daughters, husbands, in-laws, as well as the chief figures in the history of India from the last years of British rule to the present day. It is no easy task. The book inevitably feels as though the reader is being led through a maze. What is clear is the staggering percentage of the male relatives of the Maharanis who died relatively young of alcohol abuse. An incomplete list includes Raji, Jitendra's predecessor as Maharaja of Cooch Behar, who died at 31 in 1913; Shivaji, second son of Sayajirao and Chimnabai, who died of pneumonia in 1918 (or 1919, depending on which page you read); Jitendra, who died in 1922 on his 36th birthday; his son Indrajit, who died at 33 after setting fire to his bed in 1951; and in the most recent generation, Jagat, Ayesha's son, who died in 1997 aged 46. Whatever is going on here? To try to answer this question seriously could have made for a fascinating study. But, apart from a couple of pages of analysis, Moore doesn't seem any closer to understanding the problem than was Sayajirao, who "never drank because of the 'misery and suffering' it caused". To skate over this question is typical of the glossy approach Moore brings to her subject. Bewitched by richly caparisoned elephants, shimmering silk saris, thick strings of pearls, the spicy smell of incense, piles of silken cushions, delicately embroidered curtains and jewels tumbling out of gold boxes, she presents a picture of Indian princely life which could have come straight out of the pages of Vogue or Vanity Fair. She seems to operate from a number of unquestioned assumptions, along the lines of: British rule was entirely and always wrong; Mahatma Gandhi was entirely and always right (unlike Mrs Indira Gandhi, who wasn't); Lord Curzon was unspeakable; polygamy can be acceptable whereas male "infidelity" is heinous - and so on, but with an underlying sense that what really matters is to be glamorous. Ambiguity doesn't get much of a look-in although, despite the author's best didactic efforts, the book is full of it. Perhaps there are just too many people crowding its pages, all desperate for their turn in front of the camera. Pity so many of them drank themselves to death. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

I was under impression Padma Shree Laloo Prasad Yadav is MAHARAJA OF BIHAR, not what you misunderstood me that I said Raja. I repeat again MAHARAJA. As far as Emperor is concern, I thought Emperor is one whoz the conquerer of whole world, at least some parts of neibourhood. While he is MAHARAJA because he has not won some of the hostile neibour countries around India even. ______________________________________________________ I am sorry but you have again shown ignorance of royal family. HH Maharajadhiraj laloo prasad yadav is indeed Emperor. You have said that he has not won any country, that is totally wrong. Some truths Our beloved "jahanpanah" does not believe in ruling over land, he only rules over hearts. "Lok samrat" has won hearts of millions. Even of neighbouring countries. When His Highness visited pakistan , he was given such a grand welcome which pakistanis will not give even to mahmud of gazni. He is the most popular leader in pakistan. I think you havent heard the famous "laloo kashmir joke" . "With kashmir , Bihar free" . He has won over hearts of millions of bangladeshis by allowing them to settle in bihar. The immigrants have been settled on jagir land of chhapra kishenganj madhepura etc... I am making it clear our "Ali jah" is nothing but emperor. Warning:: If "budbak" like you will continue to show any more ignorance towards the riyasat or raj gharana you will be sentenced to following "punishment-wa" 1)forced to live in bihar for a week 2)forced to Drive you fav car on bihar's royal roads 3)made police commissoner of bihar or the capital punishment of bihar riyasat worse than death ---- English language lessons from "jahanpanah" himself. "Long live Emperor Laloo" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Patna is also a town in Orissa which was a Princely State. MSB ----- Original Message ----- From: Yogi Rele <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] OBIT : Patna > I thought Maharaja of Patna is Padma Shree Laloo > Prasad Yadav. > > May be you've made some mistake, verify again please. > Regards, > Yogi Rele > > > --- Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Greetings, > > Just received word that HH Maharaja RAJ > > RAJ SINGH DEO of Patna > > (Bolangir), passed away in April 2004 and was > > succeeded in the dignity by > > his son HH Maharaja KANAK VARDHAN SINGH DEO. > > Regards, > > Henry > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the > > new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > > to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I thought Maharaja of Patna is Padma Shree Laloo > Prasad Yadav. > ______________________________________________________ Yes, Patna was a very small state in orissa. By the way, I am totally outraged!!!! How dare you call laloo prasad yadav ,the raja of patna!!!!. Such insolence!! You should have known better. In old days maharajas had writers to write about their riyasat and the royal family in exchange for royal rewards . In order to continue this gloriuos tradition i am writing about the bihar riyasat. Let me tell you about Bihar riyasat. Bihar riyasat is premier princely state of india. Ruled for 15 years by laloo yadav dynasty. HH Maharajadiraj Rajrajeshwar "Ali Jah" Shrimant Laloo Prasad yadav sahib bahadur with special title of "Farzand-e-Khas-e-Dewan-e-Janpath" is the "EMPEROR OF BIHAR" . Such lowly title of "raja of patna" is an insult to his imperial majesty. HH Maharani Shrimant Rabridevi saheba is the "Regent of Bihar" in her husband's absence. Maharani sahiba is highly educated lady who studied till class 4. Her administrative ability is renowned all over india. The royal family has nine princes and princesses. The opulent weddings of the first princess and second princess has put all royals like nizam and gaekwads to shame. The young royals are so gifted the one prince is captain of bihar junior cricket team. One of the princesses stood first in medical exam in entire bihar state! One of the most enlitened royal families in the country indeed . The royal coat of arms is the "Lantern". Premier jagirdars of bihar riyasat - Highest ranking jagirdars are Raoraja pappu yadav bahadur (jagirdar of madhepura) and Raoraja sadhu yadav bahadur (jagirdar of chhapra). Their title and rank is because they are esteemed brothers of HH Maharani Rabridevi sahiba. They are members of the regency council and help in running the state. Their rank is second only to Regent maharani. The another most premier noble is Nawab Mohammed Shahbuddin bahadur umrah-ul-uazzam (Amir-e-Siwan), like the paigahs of hyderabad he too maintans large troops in defence of raj gaddi. His troops have been trained by likes if ISI and al-queda. Nawab sahib also has monopoly over illegal arms trade in the riyasat. Plus he also has the royal previlige of getting 50% of all randsom money paid for kidnappings in the riyasat. Other half goes to the royal family. There are also many other jagirdars and nobles. Their rank and honor depends on no of criminal acts commited and no of days spent in jail. I shall be writing more on the royal family and riyasat including royal properties , privy purse and summer palace ("Bihar central jail"). I would love to hear your comments on this article. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com

Greetings, Just received word that HH Maharaja RAJ RAJ SINGH DEO of Patna (Bolangir), passed away in April 2004 and was succeeded in the dignity by his son HH Maharaja KANAK VARDHAN SINGH DEO. Regards, Henry

I thought Maharaja of Patna is Padma Shree Laloo Prasad Yadav. May be you've made some mistake, verify again please. Regards, Yogi Rele --- Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings, > Just received word that HH Maharaja RAJ > RAJ SINGH DEO of Patna > (Bolangir), passed away in April 2004 and was > succeeded in the dignity by > his son HH Maharaja KANAK VARDHAN SINGH DEO. > Regards, > Henry > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

With maharashtra elections concluded , here are results of royal candidates 1)Sardar Rajvardhan Kadambande (NCP) - son of princess padamaraje of kolhapur wins from dhule seat. 2)Sanjay anandrao ghatge (Shivsena -BJP) of kagal royal family loses from kagal. 3)Prince Malojiraje bhonsle (Congress) son of chhatrapati shahu of kolhapur wins from kolhapur. 4)Sardar Vikramsinh patankar(NCP) of patan royal family loses from patan. 5)Raja Pratapsinh Naik Nimbalkar of Phaltan (NCP) defeated Ranjitsinh Naik Nimbalkar (BJP) from patan seat. 6) Prince Shivendraraje Bhonsle (NCP) defeats "GOONDA OF SATARA" Udayanraje Bhonsle (BJP) from satara seat. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com

Greetings, I have received the following information... Raja Bahadur Shrimant PRATAPSINH MALOJIRAO BAPUSAHEB NAIK NIMBALKAR died on 06th Oct.2004. Shrimant RAMRAJE PRATAPSINH NAIK NIMBALKAR installed on 7th Oct. 2004 The Phaltan page has been updated accordingly. Cheers, Henry

Wasn't Abida Sultan the eldest and the heir-apparent ? I believe the Govt of India derecognised her as the next in line to the throne when she migrated to Pakistan. Luckily for the Bhopals, the succession passed on to the Pataudi Begum and later her son, Mansur better known as Tiger.The Pataudis were and remain Indian nationalists. Marriage to Hindu and Sikh girls has helped also. Otherwise the way Hamidullah Khan tried to Balkanise India at Jinnah's behest was unpardonable.It goes to the credit of the sagacity shown by Patiala, Bikaner, Jodhpur and some other Princes and the iron-willed leadership of Sardar Patel that this dastardly plan came to naught. The 'Hukumran Qaum' attitude adopted by the Muslims and their leadership is partly to blame for their present plight. Hindus and Sikhs on the other hand, with their inbuilt humility, graciousness and worldly wisdom have prospered. Mandeep Singh Bajwa Chandigarh, India ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Book Review: Abida Sultan > At 11:11 28/09/04 -0700, you wrote: > >I am reviewing the book "Memoirs of a rebel princess " > >by princess abida sultan for you. > > > >___________________________________________ > > > > Abida Sultan better known as Bia Hazur was the last > >truly Begum of Bhopal. The book is the second part of > >"Begums of Bhopal" by shahryar khan. It begins where > >Begums of Bhopal ends. > > Adida Sultan or Bia was the eldest child of nawab > >hamidullah khan. When she was born her mother was only > >12 years old!!! As a result the first thing that > >strikes you in the book is that she refers to her > >mother by her nickname "beeva". "Beeva" was never her > >mother to her only a friend. Second aspect she writes > >about is her rigorous upbringing at hands of her > >grandmother.Little abida when only five was made to > >wake up and recite the quran. For slight mistake , her > >head would be bashed against the wall. In the book, > >she has written almost 50 times , that she hated her > >grandmother. > > This torture made her a rebel. Her only supporter > >was her father Hamidullah khan. She writes how Simple > >and spartan rule of her grandmother was replaced by > >gaiety and opulence of her father's reign. Soon she > >became the chief secretary of the state. her married > >life was a disaster by she only blames herself for it. > > The third part of her book is her moving to > >pakistan. The real reason for moving to pakistan was > >not her love for pakistan, but her differences with > >her father when he married her classmate , the aftab > >begum.How she lived for 8 years in malir without > >eletricity.And how in the end she was disillusioned by > >pakistan. > > One aspect about her personality that i noticed in > >the book was attitude towards hindus. Unlike > >hyderabad, where there was large hindu aristocracy. > >There were almost no hindu nobles in bhopal. There are > >almost no hindu names in the book, not even of > >servants. Though princess abida does not have any > >religious animosity against the hindus, she comes > >across as a person who is stauch believer in concept > >of "hukumran kaum".These are people who believed that > >muslims were the "RULING RACE" and hindus were > >"RULED". I dont think she had a good opinion of > >hindus. The only hindu friends they had were the cooch > >behar royal family. > > This apart the best part of this book and "begums > >of bhopal" is that they are totally non- biased. Abida > >is quite blunt about mistakes she made in her life. It > >makes a good reading. > > Overall I would rate the book 9 out of 10.The cost > >of the book is Rs 600. > > > >___________________________________________________ > >I would like to know your comments on the book. > > > Akshay, thank you for the review of this book. The part that intrigues me the > most, is her reason to flee to Pakistan, it seems it was to escape from her > father, rather than move based on religious grounds. I exchanged a couple of > letters with her and she seemed a nice old lady (she passed away in 2002 aged > 88). It sounds like a worthwhile buy, as it is reasonably priced. I haven't > yet > looked, but I guess most internet book stores in India would have it, Oscars, > Vedams etc. > Cheers, > Henry > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

At 11:11  28/09/04 -0700, you wrote: >I am reviewing the book "Memoirs of a rebel princess " >by princess abida sultan for you. > >___________________________________________ > >   Abida Sultan better known as Bia Hazur was the last >truly Begum of Bhopal. The book is the second part of >"Begums of Bhopal" by shahryar khan. It begins where >Begums of Bhopal ends. >   Adida Sultan or Bia was the eldest child of nawab >hamidullah khan. When she was born her mother was only >12 years old!!! As a result the first thing that >strikes you in the book is that she refers to her >mother by her nickname "beeva". "Beeva" was never her >mother to her only a friend. Second aspect she writes >about is her rigorous upbringing at hands of her >grandmother.Little abida when only five was made to >wake up and recite the quran. For slight mistake , her >head would be bashed against the wall. In the book, >she has written almost 50 times , that she hated her >grandmother. >    This torture made her a rebel. Her only supporter >was her father Hamidullah khan. She writes how Simple >and spartan rule of her grandmother was replaced by >gaiety and opulence of her father's reign. Soon she >became the chief secretary of the state. her married >life was a disaster by she only blames herself for it. >    The third part of her book is her moving to >pakistan. The real reason for moving to pakistan was >not her love for pakistan, but her differences with >her father when he married her classmate , the aftab >begum.How she lived for 8 years in malir without >eletricity.And how in the end she was disillusioned by >pakistan. >    One aspect about her personality that i noticed in >the book was attitude towards hindus. Unlike >hyderabad, where there was large hindu aristocracy. >There were almost no hindu nobles in bhopal. There are >almost no hindu names in the book, not even of >servants. Though princess abida does not have any >religious animosity against the hindus, she comes >across as a person who is stauch believer in concept >of "hukumran kaum".These are people who believed that >muslims were the "RULING RACE" and hindus were >"RULED". I dont think she had a good opinion of >hindus. The only hindu friends they had were the cooch >behar royal family. >    This apart the best part of this book and "begums >of bhopal" is that they are totally non- biased. Abida >is quite blunt about mistakes she made in her life. It >makes a good reading. >    Overall I would rate the book 9 out of 10.The cost >of the book is Rs 600. > >___________________________________________________ >I would like to know your comments on the book. > Akshay, thank you for the review of this book. The part that intrigues me the most, is her reason to flee to Pakistan, it seems it was to escape from her father, rather than move based on religious grounds. I exchanged a couple of letters with her and she seemed a nice old lady (she passed away in 2002 aged 88). It sounds like a worthwhile buy, as it is reasonably priced. I haven't yet looked, but I guess most internet book stores in India would have it, Oscars, Vedams etc. Cheers, Henry

I am reviewing the book "Memoirs of a rebel princess " by princess abida sultan for you. ___________________________________________ Abida Sultan better known as Bia Hazur was the last truly Begum of Bhopal. The book is the second part of "Begums of Bhopal" by shahryar khan. It begins where Begums of Bhopal ends. Adida Sultan or Bia was the eldest child of nawab hamidullah khan. When she was born her mother was only 12 years old!!! As a result the first thing that strikes you in the book is that she refers to her mother by her nickname "beeva". "Beeva" was never her mother to her only a friend. Second aspect she writes about is her rigorous upbringing at hands of her grandmother.Little abida when only five was made to wake up and recite the quran. For slight mistake , her head would be bashed against the wall. In the book, she has written almost 50 times , that she hated her grandmother. This torture made her a rebel. Her only supporter was her father Hamidullah khan. She writes how Simple and spartan rule of her grandmother was replaced by gaiety and opulence of her father's reign. Soon she became the chief secretary of the state. her married life was a disaster by she only blames herself for it. The third part of her book is her moving to pakistan. The real reason for moving to pakistan was not her love for pakistan, but her differences with her father when he married her classmate , the aftab begum.How she lived for 8 years in malir without eletricity.And how in the end she was disillusioned by pakistan. One aspect about her personality that i noticed in the book was attitude towards hindus. Unlike hyderabad, where there was large hindu aristocracy. There were almost no hindu nobles in bhopal. There are almost no hindu names in the book, not even of servants. Though princess abida does not have any religious animosity against the hindus, she comes across as a person who is stauch believer in concept of "hukumran kaum".These are people who believed that muslims were the "RULING RACE" and hindus were "RULED". I dont think she had a good opinion of hindus. The only hindu friends they had were the cooch behar royal family. This apart the best part of this book and "begums of bhopal" is that they are totally non- biased. Abida is quite blunt about mistakes she made in her life. It makes a good reading. Overall I would rate the book 9 out of 10.The cost of the book is Rs 600. ___________________________________________________ I would like to know your comments on the book. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Greetings, Some significant additions to Ghanerao and Poonch (thanks to Kr. Khem Singh Ghanerao), with links to Palaitha, Osian and Khimsar. Cheers, Henry

New Website http://www.princeofarcot.com/

Thanks to Pabitra, there are small changes to Dewas-Senior, Burdwan, Surguja, Sakti, Cossimbazar., as well as new information on Sayla. Cheers, Henry

Greetings, There is a major addition to Nagod, as well as some to Nayagarh (thanks to Yuvaraj of Nayagarh), Samode, Nimkhera, Nalagarh, Chamba and Nabha (thanks to Pabitra). Cheers, Henry

Greetings, There are some additions to Loharu (Dr. Z.U. Koreshi), to Satara (thanks to Akshay), to Karnal, Bhopal and Savanur. Thanks also to Pabitra for photos of the Rawals of Samode. As always any further additions and corrections are welcome. Cheers, Henry