Could i perhaps get the names of other Hyderabad nobles, besides the asaf jah dynasty and the ones you already posted. or is there perhaps a site that i could go to to find hyderabad nobles besides the asaf jahi and paigah. thanks --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

At 05:15  09/02/05 -0500, you wrote: >Henry, > >There are few living Rulers who were regnant at the time of the mergers.  HH.Maharawal Shri Digvirendrasinhji of Bansda and  HH.Maharaj Sriraj Meghrajji of Dhrangadhra are still living.   Likewise The Rana Narendra Chand of Mahlog and HH. Rana Devi Singh of Barwani as well as HH. Maharaja Bhavani Singh of Chhatarpur are alive. Also, Raja Brajraj Kshatriya of Tigiria, and HH. Maharaja Manabendra Shah of Tehri Garhwal. Raja Ram Chandra Pal Singh of Bhajji and Raja Rajendra Singh of Baghal. > >Some were minor rulers at the time of the mergers, such as the Maharaja of Tripura and the Raja of Chhotta Udepur and Rawat Raghufaj Singh of Piploda.  Additionally HH. Maharawat Ambikapratap Singh of Pratapgadh, Thakor Narinder Sinh of Ghund and Rana Baljit Singh of Tharoch.  > HH. Maharawat Ambikapratap Singh, is most likely still alive. Others that perhaps could be added. The Raja of Nagod, born 1916, succ.1926 The Thakur Sahib of Limbdi, 1940, 1941 The Maharaja of Ratlam, 1927, 1947 The Raja of Rajgarh, 1936, 1936 The Nawab of Balsinor, 1944, 1945 and no doubt there are others. > >There are others who are mysteries ?   For instance is HH. Nawab Mirza Hussain yawar Khan of Cambay still living or Thakor Fatesinhji of Ghodasar and Thakor Jorawarsinhji of Varsoda and Thakor Narendrasinhji of Virpur, Tjhakor Bhupendrasinhji of Malia, and Thakor Virvikramsinhji of Lodhiki and Thakor Keshrisinhji of Likhi and Thakior Kirtisinhji of Katosan. > The present Thakur of Virpur is Thakur Pushpendrasinhji, in succession to his father. The present Nawab of Cambay is HH Nawab Muhd. Ja'afar Ali Khan, in succession to his father. >Any information would be interesting.  Likewise has anyone ever seen a date of death for late Nawab Mohammed Iqtidar Ali Khan of Dujana? > >Fr.Lawrence Ober SJ. > Cheers, Henry

I think Maharawat Ambikapratapsinh of Pratapgarh also died a few years back. Jaideepsinh. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Father Lawrence Ober, S.J." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 10 February, 2005 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Obit: Rajmata of Bavda > Henry, > > There are few living Rulers who were regnant at the time of the mergers. > HH.Maharawal Shri Digvirendrasinhji of Bansda and HH.Maharaj Sriraj > Meghrajji of Dhrangadhra are still living. Likewise The Rana Narendra > Chand of Mahlog and HH. Rana Devi Singh of Barwani as well as HH. Maharaja > Bhavani Singh of Chhatarpur are alive. Also, Raja Brajraj Kshatriya of > Tigiria, and HH. Maharaja Manabendra Shah of Tehri Garhwal. Raja Ram > Chandra Pal Singh of Bhajji and Raja Rajendra Singh of Baghal. > > Some were minor rulers at the time of the mergers, such as the Maharaja of > Tripura and the Raja of Chhotta Udepur and Rawat Raghufaj Singh of > Piploda. Additionally HH. Maharawat Ambikapratap Singh of Pratapgadh, > Thakor Narinder Sinh of Ghund and Rana Baljit Singh of Tharoch. > > > There are others who are mysteries ? For instance is HH. Nawab Mirza > Hussain yawar Khan of Cambay still living or Thakor Fatesinhji of Ghodasar > and Thakor Jorawarsinhji of Varsoda and Thakor Narendrasinhji of Virpur, > Tjhakor Bhupendrasinhji of Malia, and Thakor Virvikramsinhji of Lodhiki > and Thakor Keshrisinhji of Likhi and Thakior Kirtisinhji of Katosan. > > Any information would be interesting. Likewise has anyone ever seen a > date of death for late Nawab Mohammed Iqtidar Ali Khan of Dujana? > > Fr.Lawrence Ober SJ. > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Thakor Saheb Narendrasinhji of Virpur died a few years back. Thakor Saheb Virvikramsinhji of Lodhika [SR.] is still living. Ys. Jaideepsinh [ Kotharia ] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Father Lawrence Ober, S.J." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 10 February, 2005 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Obit: Rajmata of Bavda > Henry, > > There are few living Rulers who were regnant at the time of the mergers. > HH.Maharawal Shri Digvirendrasinhji of Bansda and HH.Maharaj Sriraj > Meghrajji of Dhrangadhra are still living. Likewise The Rana Narendra > Chand of Mahlog and HH. Rana Devi Singh of Barwani as well as HH. Maharaja > Bhavani Singh of Chhatarpur are alive. Also, Raja Brajraj Kshatriya of > Tigiria, and HH. Maharaja Manabendra Shah of Tehri Garhwal. Raja Ram > Chandra Pal Singh of Bhajji and Raja Rajendra Singh of Baghal. > > Some were minor rulers at the time of the mergers, such as the Maharaja of > Tripura and the Raja of Chhotta Udepur and Rawat Raghufaj Singh of > Piploda. Additionally HH. Maharawat Ambikapratap Singh of Pratapgadh, > Thakor Narinder Sinh of Ghund and Rana Baljit Singh of Tharoch. > > > There are others who are mysteries ? For instance is HH. Nawab Mirza > Hussain yawar Khan of Cambay still living or Thakor Fatesinhji of Ghodasar > and Thakor Jorawarsinhji of Varsoda and Thakor Narendrasinhji of Virpur, > Tjhakor Bhupendrasinhji of Malia, and Thakor Virvikramsinhji of Lodhiki > and Thakor Keshrisinhji of Likhi and Thakior Kirtisinhji of Katosan. > > Any information would be interesting. Likewise has anyone ever seen a > date of death for late Nawab Mohammed Iqtidar Ali Khan of Dujana? > > Fr.Lawrence Ober SJ. > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Henry, There are few living Rulers who were regnant at the time of the mergers. HH.Maharawal Shri Digvirendrasinhji of Bansda and HH.Maharaj Sriraj Meghrajji of Dhrangadhra are still living. Likewise The Rana Narendra Chand of Mahlog and HH. Rana Devi Singh of Barwani as well as HH. Maharaja Bhavani Singh of Chhatarpur are alive. Also, Raja Brajraj Kshatriya of Tigiria, and HH. Maharaja Manabendra Shah of Tehri Garhwal. Raja Ram Chandra Pal Singh of Bhajji and Raja Rajendra Singh of Baghal. Some were minor rulers at the time of the mergers, such as the Maharaja of Tripura and the Raja of Chhotta Udepur and Rawat Raghufaj Singh of Piploda. Additionally HH. Maharawat Ambikapratap Singh of Pratapgadh, Thakor Narinder Sinh of Ghund and Rana Baljit Singh of Tharoch. There are others who are mysteries ? For instance is HH. Nawab Mirza Hussain yawar Khan of Cambay still living or Thakor Fatesinhji of Ghodasar and Thakor Jorawarsinhji of Varsoda and Thakor Narendrasinhji of Virpur, Tjhakor Bhupendrasinhji of Malia, and Thakor Virvikramsinhji of Lodhiki and Thakor Keshrisinhji of Likhi and Thakior Kirtisinhji of Katosan. Any information would be interesting. Likewise has anyone ever seen a date of death for late Nawab Mohammed Iqtidar Ali Khan of Dujana? Fr.Lawrence Ober SJ.

I am sending a list of Premier Hyderabad jagirdars and their estates for anyone who might have interest Paigah estates - 1) Nawab Sir Asman Jah - 1634 sq miles 2) Nawab Sir Kurshid Jah - 1555 sq miles 3) Nawab Sir Vicar-ul-umrah - 1163 sq miles other jagirdars - 1) Nawab Sir Salarjung - 1126 sq miles 2) Maharaja Sir kishen prasad - 362 sq miles 3) Nawab Khan-i-khanah - 197 sq miles 4) Nawab Fakrul mulk -234 sq miles 5) Nawab Mehndi jung - 211 sq miles 6) Raja Dharam karan bahadur - 162 sq miles 7) Raja Shamraj bahadur - 272 sq miles Hindu Samsthans - 1) Gadwal - 817 sq miles 2) Wanapurti - 605 sq miles 3) Jatporle - 357 sq miles 4) Amarchinta - 161 sq miles 5) Kalyani - 272 sq miles 6) Palavancha - 3090 sq miles __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

At 11:44  04/02/05 -0800, you wrote: > >    Few days ago , I received the sad news that >Rajmata of Bavda , Shashikaladevi Pant Amatya passed >away at ripe age of 92. My association with the >Rajmata was fairly recent , but she was an old family >friend. It was only about a year ago that i discovered >to my shock that the old lady "maisaheb" who played >bridge with my grandfather at the club every evening >was infact the rajmata of bavda. >         I soon went to meet her. The rajmata was very >sweet and was surrounded by dogs. She lived in a large >bungalow in grounds of her school. One of the best >things about interviewing her was that she was frank >and blunt. >     Shashikala devi was born in famous Sardar Raste >family of pune. She was granddaughter of maharaja of >kurundwad. She had modern upbringing in pune. She was >second wife first being princess of jamkhandi. Sadly >rajmata was widowed at young age of 29. She then >adopted current pant amatya from a poorer branch of >the family. >      When i asked her "how did her husband die" she >stated "he was hopeless alcoholic". Also when i asked >her "what did you do whole day as a rani?" she replied >"absolutely nothing" . This was my insight into lives >of royalty. >    the rajmata was also known as "Gayatridevi of >kolhapur" because of her modern lifestyle. She was a >great tennis player and horse rider. There was strict >purdah in kolhapur state. She was first noble lady to >come out of purdah leading to great uproar.She was >first female member of the exclusive "Residency club" >. She also started that school "Mai bavdekar school" . >This is one of the most prestigeous institutions in >kolhapur. >I jokingly remarked to her "Why don't you write your >memoirs like rajmata gayatri devi. She has written >such an excellent book.Have you read it?" Rajmata just >smiled and showed me the book she was just reading. By >strange coincidence the book was none other than >"Princess Remembers by gayarti devi".We had a good >laugh over this. >        Sadly with passing away of rajmata a chapter >in kolhapur's history has come to close. > Thank you for sharing this with us, it is indeed sad, since its another link with the past gone. There aren't too many left that remember what is was like before independence. The only others in their 90's still alive that I know of are the Maharaja of Alwar and the Maharana of Wankaner. Any others? Cheers, Henry

Does anyone have information on Olive Monolescue. She married the Maharaja of Jind against strong opposition, if I remember correctly. Looking for particulars on her birth and the marriage. She apparently was born in Romania. TIA Cheers, Henry

Few days ago , I received the sad news that Rajmata of Bavda , Shashikaladevi Pant Amatya passed away at ripe age of 92. My association with the Rajmata was fairly recent , but she was an old family friend. It was only about a year ago that i discovered to my shock that the old lady "maisaheb" who played bridge with my grandfather at the club every evening was infact the rajmata of bavda. I soon went to meet her. The rajmata was very sweet and was surrounded by dogs. She lived in a large bungalow in grounds of her school. One of the best things about interviewing her was that she was frank and blunt. Shashikala devi was born in famous Sardar Raste family of pune. She was granddaughter of maharaja of kurundwad. She had modern upbringing in pune. She was second wife first being princess of jamkhandi. Sadly rajmata was widowed at young age of 29. She then adopted current pant amatya from a poorer branch of the family. When i asked her "how did her husband die" she stated "he was hopeless alcoholic". Also when i asked her "what did you do whole day as a rani?" she replied "absolutely nothing" . This was my insight into lives of royalty. the rajmata was also known as "Gayatridevi of kolhapur" because of her modern lifestyle. She was a great tennis player and horse rider. There was strict purdah in kolhapur state. She was first noble lady to come out of purdah leading to great uproar.She was first female member of the exclusive "Residency club" . She also started that school "Mai bavdekar school" . This is one of the most prestigeous institutions in kolhapur. I jokingly remarked to her "Why don't you write your memoirs like rajmata gayatri devi. She has written such an excellent book.Have you read it?" Rajmata just smiled and showed me the book she was just reading. By strange coincidence the book was none other than "Princess Remembers by gayarti devi".We had a good laugh over this. Sadly with passing away of rajmata a chapter in kolhapur's history has come to close. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

all my heartious congratulations to the Lovely Rajkumari... sorry for the late response... siddhartha singh >From: Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Kapurthala : Engagement >Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:56:41 +1000 > >Rajkumari Xenia Ranbirsingh of the Christian branch of the Kapurthala Royal >Family, has become engaged to the Hon. Thomas Manton, son of the late 3rd >Baron Manton and Mary, Baroness Manton on 7th January. Announcement was in >The Times. >Cheers, >Henry > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > _________________________________________________________________ Millions of possibilities - find your Partner http://www.bharatmatrimony.com/cgi-bin/bmclicks1.cgi?74 On BharatMatrimony.com

At 08:41 AM 22/01/05 -0800, you wrote: >Today famous film actress Parveen Babi was found dead >at her mumbai residence . Why am I posting this? >  Because very few people know that she belong to the >royal "babi" dynasty of junagadh . But please can >anyone tell me her exact line of decent? > > All I could find was that she was 55 years old, and her fathers name was Wali Muhammed Khan Babi. Most sources just say that she belonged to the Junagadh Royal Family. I will keep looking. Cheers, Henry

Hello, She was not a member of the Junagadh Royal Family. He father was a Bhayat of the Sardargadh Talukdar a small State which had its roots with the Junagadh Family. Sardargadh Family is also many generations away [ seprated from the Junagadh Family ]. And then again Parveen Babi family were also seperated from the Sardargadh Royal Family and are Bhayats. So actually its the same surname Babi but there are many Bhayats or Sardars who have the common surname as the Junagadh Royal Family, who live in and around Junagadh, Rajkot, etc. Jaideepsinh Jadeja. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Soszynski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 24 January, 2005 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Film Actress Parveen Babi > At 08:41 AM 22/01/05 -0800, you wrote: >>Today famous film actress Parveen Babi was found dead >>at her mumbai residence . Why am I posting this? >> Because very few people know that she belong to the >>royal "babi" dynasty of junagadh . But please can >>anyone tell me her exact line of decent? >> >> > All I could find was that she was 55 years old, and her fathers name was > Wali > Muhammed Khan Babi. Most sources just say that she belonged to the > Junagadh > Royal Family. I will keep looking. > Cheers, > Henry > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

--- akshay chavan <[email protected]> wrote: > Today famous film actress Parveen Babi was found > dead > at her mumbai residence . Why am I posting this? > Because very few people know that she belong to > the > royal "babi" dynasty of junagadh . But please can > anyone tell me her exact line of decent? > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > just wondering,if Amitabh has some clues, while disco-ing with her in 80s. yogi rele > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and > search for your ancestors at the same time. Share > your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

Today famous film actress Parveen Babi was found dead at her mumbai residence . Why am I posting this? Because very few people know that she belong to the royal "babi" dynasty of junagadh . But please can anyone tell me her exact line of decent? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Abducted while bathing,and taken to Flushing Cornwall.This prince born abt 1767 was raised as Peter Truro,The Truro family were operators of the Seven Stars Inn in Flushing. See Henry Truro Bray author of The Evolution of life.I am also a decendant as was the author himself. keep on-keeping on-never quit. Roger

Few days ago Rani Sumitraraje Bhonsle of Akalkot adopted officialy adopted manaji bhonsle as heir. Manaji bhonsle is son of jayajirao bhonsle and jayaprabha bhonsle of the kurlekar branch of akalkot family. 11 year old Manaji has adopted new name of Majojiraje Bhonsle. This event is significant as first time an adoption is taking place by an unmarried rani. Usually it is widow or mother who adopts. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com

Greetings, The Alwar page has been updated.... http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/a/alwar.html .... the family of the Maharaja is nearly complete, except for the youngest generation. If anyone can add to it, please consider contributing. Cheers, Henry

Rajkumari Xenia Ranbirsingh of the Christian branch of the Kapurthala Royal Family, has become engaged to the Hon. Thomas Manton, son of the late 3rd Baron Manton and Mary, Baroness Manton on 7th January. Announcement was in The Times. Cheers, Henry

Sabh khairiath hukum ----- Original Message ----- From: "J" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Additions > Hello, > Happy New Year. Am out of station so could not wish before. How is > everything. > > Jaideepsinh Jadeja. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Henry Soszynski" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 22 December, 2004 1:52 PM > Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Additions > > > > Greetings, > > There have been some major additions to the website over the > > past week or so, as follows, > > Jubbal: Major addition, fairly complete. Links from there go to.... > > Banswara: minor correction > > Khairigarh: medium > > Bharatpur: > > Jhalawar: > > Baghal: > > Keonthal: > > Nadaun: New addition > > Kapurthala: fairly major > > Kashipur: minor > > Alwar: > > Kutlehar: > > Siba: > > Jind: > > All the new information above is courtesy of Kanwar Uday Singh of Jubbal. > > Mahson: New addition > > Mankarpur: link from Mahson > > Information courtesy of Raja Kailash Nath Pal of Mahson. > > Kurundwad Junior, where the passing of the Raja on 1st December 2004 has > > been noted. > > Information courtesy of the late Raja's grandson, Jai Singh. > > > > Wishing you all a very Merry Xmas and a Happy and Prosperous New year. > > Cheers, > > Henry > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Hello, Happy New Year. Am out of station so could not wish before. How is everything. Jaideepsinh Jadeja. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Soszynski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 22 December, 2004 1:52 PM Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Additions > Greetings, > There have been some major additions to the website over the > past week or so, as follows, > Jubbal: Major addition, fairly complete. Links from there go to.... > Banswara: minor correction > Khairigarh: medium > Bharatpur: > Jhalawar: > Baghal: > Keonthal: > Nadaun: New addition > Kapurthala: fairly major > Kashipur: minor > Alwar: > Kutlehar: > Siba: > Jind: > All the new information above is courtesy of Kanwar Uday Singh of Jubbal. > Mahson: New addition > Mankarpur: link from Mahson > Information courtesy of Raja Kailash Nath Pal of Mahson. > Kurundwad Junior, where the passing of the Raja on 1st December 2004 has > been noted. > Information courtesy of the late Raja's grandson, Jai Singh. > > Wishing you all a very Merry Xmas and a Happy and Prosperous New year. > Cheers, > Henry > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >