Jasbir Singh Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> wrote: At 05:23 15/05/05 -0700, you wrote: >He is the grandson of Prince Harnam Singh of Kapurthala who was a brother of Raja Kharak Singh 1870-1877. > >Henry Soszynski wrote: Greetings, >Does anyone know how "Billy" Arjan Singh fits into the Kapurthala >family? >See http://www.wwfindia.org/billy.php >Cheers, >Henry > > Any idea which son was the father. I have Maharaj Singh, Jasbir Singh and Raghbir Singh as possible candidates for "Billy's" father. Many thanks, Cheers, Henry ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright holder is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

He is the grandson of Prince Harnam Singh of Kapurthala who was a brother of Raja Kharak Singh 1870-1877. Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> wrote: Greetings, Does anyone know how "Billy" Arjan Singh fits into the Kapurthala family? See http://www.wwfindia.org/billy.php Cheers, Henry ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright holder is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Greetings, I have added a new page on Jagdishpur, http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/j/jagdishpur.html which has updated links to Suket, Ajaigarh and Rajpipla. There's a few uconnected members in the Rajpipla page, if anyone can help to re-connect them, we all would appreciate it. Jagdishpur is a work in progress, the genealogy goes back to a younger brother of the last Parmar ruler of Dhar, around 1300AD, though I'm not sure whether I will add all that. This is the family of the celebrated Kuer/Kunwar Singh (1777-1858), who played such a prominent part in the Sepoy Mutiny, losing at least three family members in the process. Cheers, Henry

Hi Henry.. yes you are right there.. but then who's actually in the line for the gaddi of sirmur?? Saasha is a personal friend and there always difficulties.. Alark uncle was fighting cases with His sister from the Jaipur family but I think alls ok now.. I'm In Uk so I'm a bit out of touch with the royalty of India.. Siddhartha >From: Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Maharaja of Sirmur (Nahan) >Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 17:48:49 +1000 > >At 11:35  28/04/05 +0530, you wrote: > >Hello.. the present Maharaja of Nahan is something which is not known > >to me but I'm very close to Saasha Singh Of Sirmur and his Father >Rajkumar > >Alak Singh.. > >They were fighting cases for the gaddi.. but I'm not really sure what's >the > >problem but.. > >Also Sangram Singh of the Nahan royal family is a personal friend.. but > >obviously I do not > >discuss these personal Issues with them.. But could some information >now.. > > > >cheers > >Siddhartha >Rajkumar Alark Singh is the grandson of Maharaja Amar Prakash and is the >nearest living male relative of the late Maharaja. Regretfully, though, it >seems that the marriage of the Maharaja was an unequal one and that the >Rajkumar is not in line of succession. He is the father of two sons, Salim >and >Saasha. >Sangram Singh is the greatgrandson of Kanwar Ranzore Singh, through his 3rd >wife. >Cheers, >Henry > > >==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== >The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright >holder is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > _________________________________________________________________ Claim your space online! http://www.msn.co.in/spaces Share your world for free!

At 01:01 AM 01/05/05 -0700, you wrote: > > >Dear Henry,   Do you have more latest photo on various >indian royalty. Suggest there should be more new >photos > Greetings, I have literally hundreds of photos, with the promise of more to come. They are of variable quality, ranging from excellent to poor, from 1870's to the present day. Time and space are the determining factors. One day I will have a broadband connection to the internet and I can then add most of them to the gallery. Are there any you are particularly interested in? I'm always looking for more. Cheers, Henry

At 12:22 AM 29/04/05 +0530, you wrote: >What about Raja Ajay Bahadur Singh, ex-MLA ? > >Mandeep > > Mandeep, Raja Ajay Bahadur Singh, is the great grandson of Rajkumar Surjan Singh, a younger brother of Raja Raghbir Prakash. Whilst, Kr. Kuldeep Singh is descended from Raja Raghbir Prakash, so he is therefore a little closer to the ruling line. Cheers, Henry >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Henry Soszynski" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:37 PM >Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Maharaja of Sirmur (Nahan) > > >> At 07:37 AM 27/04/05 -0400, you wrote: >> >Henry, >> > >> >Maharaja Udai Prakash is the Maharaja of Nahan (Sirmur). He is the son of >> the >> Maharani of Jaipur's elder half sister who married in Alipura. He was >adopted >> in succession in l965, but this was not recognized by the Indian >Govenment, >> and >> as a result the Privy Purse was not continued. I am assuming that one of >the >> Ranis of Rajendra Prakash Singh was responsible for the adoption, and >since >> his >> maternal grandmother was the Nagod Princess, it was probably her doing. At >> the >> same time, I believe that the late Maharaja Rajendra Prakash Singh left a >good >> deal of his property to the present Maharani of Jaipur (who was not >married to >> the Maharaja at the time of her father's death in 1964). >> > >> >Fr.Lawrence Ober >> > >> > >> Greetings, This at least explains whey the Maharaja of Nahan was present >at >> that adoption ceremony, he would have been the Maharani of Jaipur's >nephew. >> Money must have been the issue here, otherwise Kanwar Kuldeep Singh of >Sirmur >> would most likely be the Maharaja of Nahan, as he would have the nearest >> living >> male relative. Many thanks for the insight. >> Cheers, >> Henry >>

At 11:35  28/04/05 +0530, you wrote: >Hello.. the present Maharaja of Nahan is something which is not known >to me but I'm very close to Saasha Singh Of Sirmur and his Father Rajkumar >Alak Singh.. >They were fighting cases for the gaddi.. but I'm not really sure what's the >problem but.. >Also Sangram Singh of the Nahan royal family is a personal friend.. but >obviously I do not >discuss these personal Issues with them.. But could some information now.. > >cheers >Siddhartha Rajkumar Alark Singh is the grandson of Maharaja Amar Prakash and is the nearest living male relative of the late Maharaja. Regretfully, though, it seems that the marriage of the Maharaja was an unequal one and that the Rajkumar is not in line of succession. He is the father of two sons, Salim and Saasha. Sangram Singh is the greatgrandson of Kanwar Ranzore Singh, through his 3rd wife. Cheers, Henry

Thanks a lot, Henry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Soszynski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Maharaja of Sirmur (Nahan) > At 12:22 AM 29/04/05 +0530, you wrote: > >What about Raja Ajay Bahadur Singh, ex-MLA ? > > > >Mandeep > > > > > Mandeep, Raja Ajay Bahadur Singh, is the great grandson of Rajkumar Surjan > Singh, a younger brother of Raja Raghbir Prakash. Whilst, Kr. Kuldeep Singh is > descended from Raja Raghbir Prakash, so he is therefore a little closer to the > ruling line. > Cheers, > Henry > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Henry Soszynski" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:37 PM > >Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Maharaja of Sirmur (Nahan) > > > > > >> At 07:37 AM 27/04/05 -0400, you wrote: > >> >Henry, > >> > > >> >Maharaja Udai Prakash is the Maharaja of Nahan (Sirmur). He is the son of > >> the > >> Maharani of Jaipur's elder half sister who married in Alipura. He was > >adopted > >> in succession in l965, but this was not recognized by the Indian > >Govenment, > >> and > >> as a result the Privy Purse was not continued. I am assuming that one of > >the > >> Ranis of Rajendra Prakash Singh was responsible for the adoption, and > >since > >> his > >> maternal grandmother was the Nagod Princess, it was probably her doing. At > >> the > >> same time, I believe that the late Maharaja Rajendra Prakash Singh left a > >good > >> deal of his property to the present Maharani of Jaipur (who was not > >married to > >> the Maharaja at the time of her father's death in 1964). > >> > > >> >Fr.Lawrence Ober > >> > > >> > > >> Greetings, This at least explains whey the Maharaja of Nahan was present > >at > >> that adoption ceremony, he would have been the Maharani of Jaipur's > >nephew. > >> Money must have been the issue here, otherwise Kanwar Kuldeep Singh of > >Sirmur > >> would most likely be the Maharaja of Nahan, as he would have the nearest > >> living > >> male relative. Many thanks for the insight. > >> Cheers, > >> Henry > >> > > > ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== > The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright holder is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Dear Henry, Do you have more latest photo on various indian royalty. Suggest there should be more new photos --- Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> wrote: > At 12:22 AM 29/04/05 +0530, you wrote: > >What about Raja Ajay Bahadur Singh, ex-MLA ? > > > >Mandeep > > > > > Mandeep, Raja Ajay Bahadur Singh, is the great > grandson of Rajkumar Surjan > Singh, a younger brother of Raja Raghbir Prakash. > Whilst, Kr. Kuldeep Singh is > descended from Raja Raghbir Prakash, so he is > therefore a little closer to the > ruling line. > Cheers, > Henry > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Henry Soszynski" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:37 PM > >Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Maharaja of Sirmur > (Nahan) > > > > > >> At 07:37 AM 27/04/05 -0400, you wrote: > >> >Henry, > >> > > >> >Maharaja Udai Prakash is the Maharaja of Nahan > (Sirmur). He is the son of > >> the > >> Maharani of Jaipur's elder half sister who > married in Alipura. He was > >adopted > >> in succession in l965, but this was not > recognized by the Indian > >Govenment, > >> and > >> as a result the Privy Purse was not continued. I > am assuming that one of > >the > >> Ranis of Rajendra Prakash Singh was responsible > for the adoption, and > >since > >> his > >> maternal grandmother was the Nagod Princess, it > was probably her doing. At > >> the > >> same time, I believe that the late Maharaja > Rajendra Prakash Singh left a > >good > >> deal of his property to the present Maharani of > Jaipur (who was not > >married to > >> the Maharaja at the time of her father's death in > 1964). > >> > > >> >Fr.Lawrence Ober > >> > > >> > > >> Greetings, This at least explains whey the > Maharaja of Nahan was present > >at > >> that adoption ceremony, he would have been the > Maharani of Jaipur's > >nephew. > >> Money must have been the issue here, otherwise > Kanwar Kuldeep Singh of > >Sirmur > >> would most likely be the Maharaja of Nahan, as he > would have the nearest > >> living > >> male relative. Many thanks for the insight. > >> Cheers, > >> Henry > >> > > > ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== > The posting of Copyright material, without > permission of the copyright holder is forbidden. > Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

What about Raja Ajay Bahadur Singh, ex-MLA ? Mandeep ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Soszynski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Maharaja of Sirmur (Nahan) > At 07:37 AM 27/04/05 -0400, you wrote: > >Henry, > > > >Maharaja Udai Prakash is the Maharaja of Nahan (Sirmur). He is the son of > the > Maharani of Jaipur's elder half sister who married in Alipura. He was adopted > in succession in l965, but this was not recognized by the Indian Govenment, > and > as a result the Privy Purse was not continued. I am assuming that one of the > Ranis of Rajendra Prakash Singh was responsible for the adoption, and since > his > maternal grandmother was the Nagod Princess, it was probably her doing. At > the > same time, I believe that the late Maharaja Rajendra Prakash Singh left a good > deal of his property to the present Maharani of Jaipur (who was not married to > the Maharaja at the time of her father's death in 1964). > > > >Fr.Lawrence Ober > > > > > Greetings, This at least explains whey the Maharaja of Nahan was present at > that adoption ceremony, he would have been the Maharani of Jaipur's nephew. > Money must have been the issue here, otherwise Kanwar Kuldeep Singh of Sirmur > would most likely be the Maharaja of Nahan, as he would have the nearest > living > male relative. Many thanks for the insight. > Cheers, > Henry > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hello.. the present Maharaja of Nahan is something which is not known to me but I'm very close to Saasha Singh Of Sirmur and his Father Rajkumar Alak Singh.. They were fighting cases for the gaddi.. but I'm not really sure what's the problem but.. Also Sangram Singh of the Nahan royal family is a personal friend.. but obviously I do not discuss these personal Issues with them.. But could some information now.. cheers Siddhartha >From: Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Maharaja of Sirmur (Nahan) >Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:03:13 +1000 > >Greetings, > HH Maharaja Rajendra Prakash of Sirmur died in 1964, leaving >only two daughters. In 1970 the gaddi was still vacant. However a couple of >years ago when HH Maharaja Sawai Bhawani Singh of Jaipur adopted his >grandson, one of the guests was the Maharaja of Nahan. This should not be >surprising as his wife is a daughter of the late Maharaja of Sirmur. But >who is the present Maharaja of Nahan (Sirmur)? >Cheers, >Henry >PS There's some updates to Panna, Jaisalmer, Khimsar and Dholpur, and >apologies to Pabitra and H.Singh for not replying to their e-mails, as I've >been snowed under with mail. Many thanks to both. > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > _________________________________________________________________ News, views and gossip. http://www.msn.co.in/Cinema/ Get it all at MSN Cinema!

At 07:37 AM 27/04/05 -0400, you wrote: >Henry, > >Maharaja Udai Prakash is the Maharaja of Nahan (Sirmur).  He is the son of the Maharani of Jaipur's elder half sister who married in Alipura.  He was adopted in succession in l965, but this was not recognized by the Indian Govenment, and as a result the Privy Purse was not continued.  I am assuming that one of the Ranis of Rajendra Prakash Singh was responsible for the adoption, and since his maternal grandmother was the Nagod Princess, it was probably her doing.  At the same time, I believe that the late Maharaja Rajendra Prakash Singh left a good deal of his property to the present Maharani of Jaipur (who was not married to the Maharaja at the time of her father's death in 1964). > >Fr.Lawrence Ober > > Greetings, This at least explains whey the Maharaja of Nahan was present at that adoption ceremony, he would have been the Maharani of Jaipur's nephew. Money must have been the issue here, otherwise Kanwar Kuldeep Singh of Sirmur would most likely be the Maharaja of Nahan, as he would have the nearest living male relative. Many thanks for the insight. Cheers, Henry

At 12:42 AM 28/04/05 -0700, you wrote: >I am a little confused > I have an article in INDIA TODAY maganize dated May >31 1986. This is regarding when Jagat singh took >action against Bhawani Singh for partition of >property. I quote from the article >" Three years ago Maharani Padmini Devi moved back to >jaipur from delhi. Soon after Padminidevi's brothers >Amarendra jit singh pal and prabhu jyoti singh also >arrived in jaipur. Amadrendra became Bhawani singh's >controller of properties, a position of enormous clout >resented by other family members. Matter came to head >when Former Maharaja gave power of attorney to >maharani padmini devi. The family members wanted to >banish amarendra and his brother from the court." > >                who is amarandra? How has he not >become the Maharaja? of nahan?  Can anyone plz explain >this to me? > This is rather odd, as I can find no one in the Sirmur Royal Family with those names, and as pointed out, the late Maharaja of Nahan, had no sons. Maybe the article meant that they were nephews and not brothers, then they could be sons of the Raja of Alipura. A complete mystery. Cheers, Henry

Henry, Amarendra Jit Singh Pal and the other "brother" are not from Alipura. There is no record of any sons of the late Maharaja of Sirmur by his two Maharanis, only two daughters. So they are in the "mystery" category. Fr.Lawrence Ober

I am a little confused I have an article in INDIA TODAY maganize dated May 31 1986. This is regarding when Jagat singh took action against Bhawani Singh for partition of property. I quote from the article " Three years ago Maharani Padmini Devi moved back to jaipur from delhi. Soon after Padminidevi's brothers Amarendra jit singh pal and prabhu jyoti singh also arrived in jaipur. Amadrendra became Bhawani singh's controller of properties, a position of enormous clout resented by other family members. Matter came to head when Former Maharaja gave power of attorney to maharani padmini devi. The family members wanted to banish amarendra and his brother from the court." who is amarandra? How has he not become the Maharaja? of nahan? Can anyone plz explain this to me? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Greetings, HH Maharaja Rajendra Prakash of Sirmur died in 1964, leaving only two daughters. In 1970 the gaddi was still vacant. However a couple of years ago when HH Maharaja Sawai Bhawani Singh of Jaipur adopted his grandson, one of the guests was the Maharaja of Nahan. This should not be surprising as his wife is a daughter of the late Maharaja of Sirmur. But who is the present Maharaja of Nahan (Sirmur)? Cheers, Henry PS There's some updates to Panna, Jaisalmer, Khimsar and Dholpur, and apologies to Pabitra and H.Singh for not replying to their e-mails, as I've been snowed under with mail. Many thanks to both.

Henry, Maharaja Udai Prakash is the Maharaja of Nahan (Sirmur). He is the son of the Maharani of Jaipur's elder half sister who married in Alipura. He was adopted in succession in l965, but this was not recognized by the Indian Govenment, and as a result the Privy Purse was not continued. I am assuming that one of the Ranis of Rajendra Prakash Singh was responsible for the adoption, and since his maternal grandmother was the Nagod Princess, it was probably her doing. At the same time, I believe that the late Maharaja Rakjendra Prakash Singh left a good deal of his property to the present Maharani of Jaipur (who was not married to the Maharaja at the time of her father's death in1964). Fr.Lawrence Ober

These URLs don't seem to work.Maybe temporarily. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arti Singh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:12 PM Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Ajaigarh > We was wondering if someone has more information in > regard to Ajaigarh family, there seem to be very > little detailed information after Kaushalendra Singh. > > We are particularly interested in regard to who is > married where and what are they doing. > > > --- Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> wrote: > > At 04:44 06/04/05 +0530, you wrote: > > > > > > What's the URL at which we can access all these > > family trees ? > > > > > > Mandeep Singh Bajwa, > > > Chandigarh, > > > India > > > > > > The home page is at ..... > > > <http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips>http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/ > > > > The index page is at ..... > > > <http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/main.html>http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsosz > > y/ips/main.html > > > > and jaisalmer, for example is at ..... > > > <http://www.uq.net.au/~zzhsoszy/ips/j/jaisalmer.html>http://www.uq.net.au/~ > > zzhsoszy/ips/j/jaisalmer.html > > > > Cheers, > > Henry > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > > your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > > last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Few critical links in Taruns�s family tree are missing and there is nothing after that generations. --- Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> wrote: > At 11:42� 09/04/05 -0700, you wrote: > >We was wondering if someone has more information in > >regard to Ajaigarh family,� there seem to be very > >little detailed information after Kaushalendra > Singh. > > > >We are particularly interested in regard to who is > >married where and what are they doing. > > > > > Yes, there seems to be very little around on the > various Bundela states. > Tarunendra Singh of Ajaigarh was going to send me > some info, but never got > around to it. His website is here .... > http://members.tripod.com/~TSingh/Ts/tree.htm > ... not sure how uptodate it is. > If anyone has data on Ajaigarh, feel free to reply. > Cheers, > Henry > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about > your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

At 11:42  09/04/05 -0700, you wrote: >We was wondering if someone has more information in >regard to Ajaigarh family,  there seem to be very >little detailed information after Kaushalendra Singh. > >We are particularly interested in regard to who is >married where and what are they doing. > > Yes, there seems to be very little around on the various Bundela states. Tarunendra Singh of Ajaigarh was going to send me some info, but never got around to it. His website is here .... http://members.tripod.com/~TSingh/Ts/tree.htm ... not sure how uptodate it is. If anyone has data on Ajaigarh, feel free to reply. Cheers, Henry