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    1. News: Devgadh Baria theft
    2. akshay chavan
    3. Antiques stolen from palace without guards Vadodara’s Devgadh Palace has not witnessed such an incident before: Former minister EXPRESS NEWS SERVICE Posted online: Monday, September 05, 2005 at 0150 hours IST VADODARA, SEPT 4: A theft of valuables worth Rs 70 lakh had the royals of Devgadh Baria Palace here making frantic calls to police yesterday. Antique guns, jewellery and silver utensils were found missing from the residence of former state minister Urvashidevi, a member of the royal family. Senior police officers rushed to the palace, roadblocks were set up in the entire area and all checkpoints alerted following reports about the theft. This is the first time that such an incident has taken place in the palace that has till date not appointed any security guard. It was Urvashidevi’s son Tusharsinh Jaidipsinh who found valuables missing from the palace after he woke up. He found four cupboards at the anteroom ransacked and guns lying on the floor. Devgadh Baria police was summoned to the palace within minutes and an FIR registered. According to police, six guns including three antique ones, a revolver of German make, 12 silver plates, 70 bowls, 15 silver glasses, 20 big serving bowls of silver, two silver kettles, two milk jugs, three gold rings, a purse containing diamond and ruby necklaces, rings and bracelets were found missing. ‘‘The most expensive piece missing was the monogram bearing the emblem of erstwhile Baria state on a golden buckle studded with diamonds and rubies. The monogram alone is valued at Rs 5 lakh,’’ said an investigating officer of Baria police. ‘‘No theft has ever occurred here. In fact, we would never lock up our doors or have any security guards in the compound. We have about 20 servants here and all are trustworthy,’’ said Urvashidevi. According to family members, the valuables were not insured but were declared to the government and wealth tax was being paid regularly. Following the incident, the Dahod District Superintendent of Police, Dipak Bhatt, rushed to the palace to assist in the investigations. A dog squad is already there. ‘‘Roadblocks have been set up in several areas and all checkpoints have been alerted. We are trying our best to nab the culprits,’’ said Bhatt. Till reports last came in, a team of forensic experts were collecting fingerprints from the palace. Two policemen have been assigned on duty, too. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    09/05/2005 02:18:52
    1. RE: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Additions
    2. yuvraj singh
    3. Hi people.. does anyone know a person called Mohan Singh Rana..?? he's from the some half himachal and half punjab royalty... he died in 1985 and was a, bureaucrat in the, Indian Administrative services.. last posting, Pondicherry ..(Unon territory cadre) Information needed, from anyone... thanking you Siddhartha >From: Henry Soszynski <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Additions >Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:11:48 +1000 > >Greetings all, > The page on Ichalkaranji has been augmented, thanks to >Akshay. Further info has been added to the Sitamau page, with a link to >Mandi. The information stated that the ruler was a Maharaja, whereas all >sources I've seen indicate that he is a Raja. Anyone have more definate >info. They also seem to use the spelling 'Sinh' which seems to be a bit >unusual. >Cheers, >Henry > > >==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== >The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright >holder is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > _________________________________________________________________ Job hunting? Get the right one! http://creative.mediaturf.net/creatives/timesjobs/hotmail_TOL.htm Log on to timesjobs TODAY

    08/25/2005 11:57:50
    1. RE: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Tale of Two Zubeidas
    2. akshay chavan
    3. Then who is saira banu's father? Muslim nawab like jaora, kurwai or basoda else hindu princes like jabhua , ratlam barwani etc.... What more do u know about her parentage? i would like to know --- Naheed <[email protected]> wrote: > Saira is the illegitamate child of one of the > princes from the same region > but not of Indore or Gwalior. > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

    08/24/2005 03:29:35
    1. Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Tale of Two Zubeidas
    2. Henry Soszynski
    3. At 07:47 AM 22/08/05 -0700, you wrote: >There is great deal of confusion over the famous >"Zubeida". I have discovered that in fact there were >two zubeidas, one zubeida of jodhpur and other zubeida >of sachin state. > >It was zubeida , the illegitimate daughter of nawab of >sachin who acted in first indian talkie movie "Alam >ara". She is usually confused with zubeida patel of >shyam benegal fame. This zubeida married Raja >Dhanrajgir , one of richest jagirdars of hyderabad >state. She is mother of industralist Humayun >Dhanrajgir. She died in 1988. ( courtesy Times of >India, 1988) > >The second zubeidaa was zubeida of jodhpur >immmortalised by shyam benegal movie "Zubeidaa". Her >son from first marriage is famous indian film critic >Khalid mohammad who wrote the script of the movie. I >want to know which movie did she act in? does anyone >know? > >ps: i have heard an old legend that film actress Saira >Banu is illegitimate child of Maharaja of indore or >gwalior. Does anyone know who her father was? > One source gave it as Ehsan. I could find no indication that she was the daughter of the Maharaja of Indore. > > There's an interesting article regarding the son of Jodhpur's Zubeida here... <http://www.merchantivory.com/news-india.html>http://www.merchantivory.com/ news-india.html and here... <http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2001/jan/17zub.htm>http://www.rediff.com/en tertai/2001/jan/17zub.htm Cheers, Henry

    08/23/2005 04:18:27
    1. Additions
    2. Henry Soszynski
    3. Greetings all, The page on Ichalkaranji has been augmented, thanks to Akshay. Further info has been added to the Sitamau page, with a link to Mandi. The information stated that the ruler was a Maharaja, whereas all sources I've seen indicate that he is a Raja. Anyone have more definate info. They also seem to use the spelling 'Sinh' which seems to be a bit unusual. Cheers, Henry

    08/22/2005 01:11:48
    1. RE: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Tale of Two Zubeidas
    2. Naheed
    3. Saira is the illegitamate child of one of the princes from the same region but not of Indore or Gwalior. Which Nawab Sachin are you referring to? -----Original Message----- From: akshay chavan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 6:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Tale of Two Zubeidas There is great deal of confusion over the famous "Zubeida". I have discovered that in fact there were two zubeidas, one zubeida of jodhpur and other zubeida of sachin state. It was zubeida , the illegitimate daughter of nawab of sachin who acted in first indian talkie movie "Alam ara". She is usually confused with zubeida patel of shyam benegal fame. This zubeida married Raja Dhanrajgir , one of richest jagirdars of hyderabad state. She is mother of industralist Humayun Dhanrajgir. She died in 1988. ( courtesy Times of India, 1988) The second zubeidaa was zubeida of jodhpur immmortalised by shyam benegal movie "Zubeidaa". Her son from first marriage is famous indian film critic Khalid mohammad who wrote the script of the movie. I want to know which movie did she act in? does anyone know? ps: i have heard an old legend that film actress Saira Banu is illegitimate child of Maharaja of indore or gwalior. Does anyone know who her father was? ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright holder is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

    08/22/2005 01:10:43
    1. Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Additions
    2. Umesh Bahri
    3. dear henry, 'sinh' was only used by the rulers of the Rajput rulers of erstwhile Kathiawar states...the Rajputs here still do so. Ciao, >Umesh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Soszynski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Additions > Greetings all, > The page on Ichalkaranji has been augmented, thanks to > Akshay. Further info has been added to the Sitamau page, with a link to > Mandi. The information stated that the ruler was a Maharaja, whereas all > sources I've seen indicate that he is a Raja. Anyone have more definate > info. They also seem to use the spelling 'Sinh' which seems to be a bit > unusual. > Cheers, > Henry > > > ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== > The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright > holder is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

    08/22/2005 10:39:54
    1. Tale of Two Zubeidas
    2. akshay chavan
    3. There is great deal of confusion over the famous "Zubeida". I have discovered that in fact there were two zubeidas, one zubeida of jodhpur and other zubeida of sachin state. It was zubeida , the illegitimate daughter of nawab of sachin who acted in first indian talkie movie "Alam ara". She is usually confused with zubeida patel of shyam benegal fame. This zubeida married Raja Dhanrajgir , one of richest jagirdars of hyderabad state. She is mother of industralist Humayun Dhanrajgir. She died in 1988. ( courtesy Times of India, 1988) The second zubeidaa was zubeida of jodhpur immmortalised by shyam benegal movie "Zubeidaa". Her son from first marriage is famous indian film critic Khalid mohammad who wrote the script of the movie. I want to know which movie did she act in? does anyone know? ps: i have heard an old legend that film actress Saira Banu is illegitimate child of Maharaja of indore or gwalior. Does anyone know who her father was? ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

    08/22/2005 01:47:52
    1. Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Additions
    2. akshay chavan
    3. "Sinh" was also used by the marathas with Rajput ancestry like "pratapsinh gaekwar" "Vikramsinh ghatge" "vijaysinh bhonsle" etc... ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

    08/22/2005 01:36:29
    1. Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Ray family in India.
    2. Carole Douch
    3. Thanks for the reply, Ill keep a look out and see if he's related ,regards carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vishvjit Singh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Ray family in India. >I know of one Dr Theodore Roy who was from Lucknow and then moved to New > Zealand where he headed a Department at the University in Hamilton. He is > a > famous scholar who has contributed seminal studies relating to the British > in India, the Anglo-Indians, the Indians in Fiji, etc. > > Could he be a relative? > > VPS > > > On 8/21/05 2:48 PM, "Carole Douch" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Can any one help me on where I can find some information on a family that >> went to India, I have joined the Indian sites but no contact or >> help,thanks >> carole >> >> William Ray was in India,c1830 he worked as a clerk. >> He married there to ???, a son William Edmund Edward Ray was born about >> 1835 >> in Madras.I have his mother as either Charlotte or Matilda,but as no >> birth >> record,only heresay. >> The son came to NSW in 1853,as both parents where dead. >> This is all I know of the family before coming to NSW, >> Hope some one can help me on where I can find records. >> Ive searched the IGI, plus other sites and no can find them, >> Thanks carole in NSW >> >> >> >> ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== >> The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright >> holder >> is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at >> the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targ >> etid=5429 >> > > > > ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== > The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright > holder is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

    08/21/2005 02:01:37
    1. Ray family in India.
    2. Carole Douch
    3. Can any one help me on where I can find some information on a family that went to India, I have joined the Indian sites but no contact or help,thanks carole William Ray was in India,c1830 he worked as a clerk. He married there to ???, a son William Edmund Edward Ray was born about 1835 in Madras.I have his mother as either Charlotte or Matilda,but as no birth record,only heresay. The son came to NSW in 1853,as both parents where dead. This is all I know of the family before coming to NSW, Hope some one can help me on where I can find records. Ive searched the IGI, plus other sites and no can find them, Thanks carole in NSW

    08/21/2005 01:18:53
    1. Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Ray family in India.
    2. Yogi Rele
    3. spell eroor Carol, its NJ 07405 I am in New Jersey, USA Yogi Carole Douch <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks for the reply, Ill keep a look out and see if he's related ,regards carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vishvjit Singh" To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Ray family in India. >I know of one Dr Theodore Roy who was from Lucknow and then moved to New > Zealand where he headed a Department at the University in Hamilton. He is > a > famous scholar who has contributed seminal studies relating to the British > in India, the Anglo-Indians, the Indians in Fiji, etc. > > Could he be a relative? > > VPS > > > On 8/21/05 2:48 PM, "Carole Douch" wrote: > >> Can any one help me on where I can find some information on a family that >> went to India, I have joined the Indian sites but no contact or >> help,thanks >> carole >> >> William Ray was in India,c1830 he worked as a clerk. >> He married there to ???, a son William Edmund Edward Ray was born about >> 1835 >> in Madras.I have his mother as either Charlotte or Matilda,but as no >> birth >> record,only heresay. >> The son came to NSW in 1853,as both parents where dead. >> This is all I know of the family before coming to NSW, >> Hope some one can help me on where I can find records. >> Ive searched the IGI, plus other sites and no can find them, >> Thanks carole in NSW >> >> >> >> ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== >> The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright >> holder >> is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at >> the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targ >> etid=5429 >> > > > > ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== > The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright > holder is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright holder is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

    08/21/2005 11:17:20
    1. Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Ray family in India.
    2. Yogi Rele
    3. Yogi speaking I am Yogi, any problem? you can reach me at 38 Boonton Ave Butler, BJ 07405 Vishvjit Singh <[email protected]> wrote: I know of one Dr Theodore Roy who was from Lucknow and then moved to New Zealand where he headed a Department at the University in Hamilton. He is a famous scholar who has contributed seminal studies relating to the British in India, the Anglo-Indians, the Indians in Fiji, etc. Could he be a relative? VPS On 8/21/05 2:48 PM, "Carole Douch" wrote: > Can any one help me on where I can find some information on a family that > went to India, I have joined the Indian sites but no contact or help,thanks > carole > > William Ray was in India,c1830 he worked as a clerk. > He married there to ???, a son William Edmund Edward Ray was born about 1835 > in Madras.I have his mother as either Charlotte or Matilda,but as no birth > record,only heresay. > The son came to NSW in 1853,as both parents where dead. > This is all I know of the family before coming to NSW, > Hope some one can help me on where I can find records. > Ive searched the IGI, plus other sites and no can find them, > Thanks carole in NSW > > > > ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== > The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright holder > is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at > the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targ > etid=5429 > ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright holder is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

    08/21/2005 11:15:21
    1. Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Ray family in India.
    2. Vishvjit Singh
    3. I know of one Dr Theodore Roy who was from Lucknow and then moved to New Zealand where he headed a Department at the University in Hamilton. He is a famous scholar who has contributed seminal studies relating to the British in India, the Anglo-Indians, the Indians in Fiji, etc. Could he be a relative? VPS On 8/21/05 2:48 PM, "Carole Douch" <[email protected]> wrote: > Can any one help me on where I can find some information on a family that > went to India, I have joined the Indian sites but no contact or help,thanks > carole > > William Ray was in India,c1830 he worked as a clerk. > He married there to ???, a son William Edmund Edward Ray was born about 1835 > in Madras.I have his mother as either Charlotte or Matilda,but as no birth > record,only heresay. > The son came to NSW in 1853,as both parents where dead. > This is all I know of the family before coming to NSW, > Hope some one can help me on where I can find records. > Ive searched the IGI, plus other sites and no can find them, > Thanks carole in NSW > > > > ==== INDIA-ROYALTY Mailing List ==== > The posting of Copyright material, without permission of the copyright holder > is forbidden. Selective quoting, though, is appropriate. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at > the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targ > etid=5429 >

    08/21/2005 09:08:40
    1. Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Scindias at it again - Royal War
    2. Arti Singh
    3. MUMBAI: In a litigious confrontation that will pit aunt against nephew, Rajasthan chief minister Vasundhara Raje Scindia (BJP) is battling her Congress MP nephew Jyotiraditya Scindia (son of her late brother and Congress heavyweight Madhavrao) for control of the wealthy charitable trusts set up by Vasundhara's mother, late Rajmata Vijaya Raje Scindia. An application on behalf of Madhavrao's three sisters - Vasundhara Raje, Usha Raje and Yashodhara Raje - has been filed before S N Kapate in the charity commissioner's office claiming that the sisters are the real trustees of two trusts: Krishna Madhav Public Charitable Trust and His Highness Sir Maharaja Jivajirao Scindia Charitable Trust. A similar application has been filed on behalf of Jyotiraditya, asking to be named as the real trustee. Advocate Amol Inamdar, counsel for Vasundhara Raje, confirmed that a dispute has arisen over the trusteeship. Jyotiraditya's advocate K P Jadhav said he had moved an application asking for his client to be declared the real trustee. Set up by Rajmata Vijaya Raje Scindia in 1966, the trusts own three multicrore properties in south Mumbai, which were gifted to the Rajmata. While Vijay Vilas and Devoshine on Warden Road are managed by the Krishna Madhav Charitable Trust, Vasundhara apartments on Peddar Road is managed by the other trust. In 1982, the Rajmata, a BJP stalwart, added the names of her three daughters as trustees. ____________________________ The Scindia clan is no stranger to feuds. The passing away of two big names of the Scindia clan - mother Vijayaraje and son Madhavrao - may have masked the biggest story of family discord and mother-son estrangement in Indian politics, but the scars refuse to go away. An apocryphal story sums it up all. When Rajasthan chief minister Vasundhara Raje's son Dushyant won the Lok Sabha polls and came to Delhi, it created heartburn. He wanted his mother's house but was told that it was a high-category residence that could not be given to a first-time MP. This became quite an issue. Raje is said to have intervened to insist her son be given the house of his choice, just as Jyotiraditya was given his father's high-category residence on his debut. Things have never been normal in the household ever since Vijaya Raje and Madhavrao fell out in the wake of Emergency. The mother-son duo was in the Jan Sangh. But while Madhavrao left for Nepal to escape repression, his mother decided to stay put, and was sent to Tihar jail as punishment for her defiance. The rift continued to deepen with Madhavrao joining Congress, while Vijaya Raje remained loyal to BJP. According to those close to the family, Sardar Angre, a family aide, contributed to tension between mother and son. Property figured in the list of irritants. A close aide said that reported leasing out of royal property for running schools and other activities by an organisation hardened the differences, ensuring that mother-son ties were never repaired. ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

    08/19/2005 05:36:13
    1. Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Battle of Gaekwads - the sequel
    2. Henry Soszynski
    3. At 01:31 AM 04/08/05 -0700, you wrote: >There are fireworks flying in the battle of gaekwads. > >SC order gives Sangramsinh upper hand in royal feud > >TIMES NEWS NETWORK [ TUESDAY, JANUARY 25, 2005 >09:48:55 PM ] > > >VADODARA: Sangramsinh Gaekwad, the youngest son of the >former ruler of Baroda state, has gained the upper >hand in the bitter family feud for property running >into crores. An order passed by a Supreme Court bench >of Justice S B Sinha and Justice Santosh Hegde on >January 20, has given him majority stake in the >Gaekwad Investment Corporation Private Limited (GIC). > >With this judgement, Sangramsinh will have control >over nearly 86.70 per cent of the stake with as many >as 6,491 equity shares of the total 7,475 shares being >allocated to him. Of the remaining, 550 shares have >been allotted to Mrunalinidevi Puwar, 25 to >Shubhanginiraje Gaekwad and 475 to the rest of the >family members. > Who's the villain in this affair. It seems there's plenty of skullduggery on all sides, though considering how much is at stake, its perhaps not surprising. I hope they sort it out for the best and quickly. Cheers, Henry

    08/08/2005 09:43:18
    1. RE: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Royal Photo Gallery
    2. Henry Soszynski
    3. At 06:18 AM 03/08/05 -0400, you wrote: >Dear Raja >I will be going to Kohlapur and Miraj and would be interested in seeing >these collections as I study and collect any and all items related to >Indian royalty. >'Best wishes >Ken Robbins > >Henry Soszynski wrote on 7/28/05, 2:15 AM: > > > > > At 09:48 AM 26/07/05 -0700, you wrote: > > >Thanks for the photo collection. > > > > > >My family has many photo collections of Kolahapur, Miraj and Jath > > >Dynasties back home in india. > > > > > >Regards, > > >Raja > > > > > > > > You're welcome. I have many more and am still looking for more. I hope > > your > > family are taking good care of the photographs. I've seen many that have > > deteriorated quite badly. > > Cheers, > > Henry > > Dear Ken, Welcome to the list. Can you tell us a bit more about your collection. Is it online somewhere, in a museum or is it private only? Its good to see that people are taking an interest in preserving as much of the Indian courtly life as possible. On a slightly related note. There's an exhibition of Mewari art at the NSW Art Gallery at.. http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/exhibitions/current/rajput ... its being hosted by Yuvaraj Lakshyaraj Singh of Mewar, who is working as a waiter at a Sydney restaurant, whilst undergoing a management course in Sydney. There was an article in the Sydney Morning Herald (which I can't find), which has an amusing byline... "Waiter, waiter there's an heir in my soup" It makes worthwhile reading. I can't post it here as it may violate copyright laws. Cheers, Henry

    08/04/2005 05:33:40
    1. Battle of Gaekwads - the sequel
    2. akshay chavan
    3. There are fireworks flying in the battle of gaekwads. SC order gives Sangramsinh upper hand in royal feud TIMES NEWS NETWORK [ TUESDAY, JANUARY 25, 2005 09:48:55 PM ] VADODARA: Sangramsinh Gaekwad, the youngest son of the former ruler of Baroda state, has gained the upper hand in the bitter family feud for property running into crores. An order passed by a Supreme Court bench of Justice S B Sinha and Justice Santosh Hegde on January 20, has given him majority stake in the Gaekwad Investment Corporation Private Limited (GIC). With this judgement, Sangramsinh will have control over nearly 86.70 per cent of the stake with as many as 6,491 equity shares of the total 7,475 shares being allocated to him. Of the remaining, 550 shares have been allotted to Mrunalinidevi Puwar, 25 to Shubhanginiraje Gaekwad and 475 to the rest of the family members. The court observed that initially when the shares were offered, Sangramsinh had obtained majority of the stake in GIC after other family members declined the offer. Also, Puar was already holding 1,000 shares, making it evident that she could not have been kept in the dark as alleged. The judgement is crucial as GIC is the primary company of the royal family holding a critical chunk of shares in the other two firms — Baroda Rayon Corporation Limited (BRCL) and Alaukik Trading Corporation Private Limited (ATC). GIC holds the major number of shares in ATC. Out of the 952 shares of ATC, GIC holds nearly 85 per cent stake with 800 shares. It is significant to note that a majority of the fixed assets of the family, including the Nazarbaug Palace, Ashok Bungalow, Bakul Bungalow, Indumati Mahal, the two lakh square feet of land at Makarpura, the Padamkut Bungalow among others have been registered under ATC and would now be controlled by Sangramsinh. Well-known advocate and Sangramsinh's counsel, Kailash Jethmalani says, "With this order all the false allegations levelled against Sangramsinh will be cleared. It would prove to be a major boost for the progress of Baroda Rayon." Sangramsinh held the majority stake in GIC as well as ATC even during the time of his father and last ruler of Baroda State Maharaja Fatehsinhrao Gaekwad.The feud started soon after Fatehsinhrao's demise, as Mrunalinidevi Puwar transferred the shares to her name without the knowledge of family members and other directors on October 10, 1989. Interestingly, Sangramsinh had made Puwar one of the directors of ATC on March 5, 1988. When the scam came to light on September 1, 1990, Sangramsinh filed a case before the Vadodara court and obtained a stay over the shares. Also a status quo was obtained from the Company Law Board asking the royal family and other directors to refrain from altering ATC's assets. Following this, a series of petitions were filed in the court by Mrunalini Devi and other family members. Three suits were filed by Shubhanginiraje, Pramilaraje and Ajitsinh Gaekwad in the Rajkot sessions court to obtain majority of the shares in GIC. However, with the sessions court ruling against them, Puwar filed a suit in the High Court. Allegations were made in the petition against Sangramsinh, for acquiring majority of stakes in GIC by keeping other family members in the dark. The petition also prayed to reinstate Rajmata Shantadevi Gaekwad as the legal heir under the Hindu Succession Act. However, the court of justice N G Pandya had dismissed Puwar's petition Judicial inquiry in royal battle of Gaekwads TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, JULY 25, 2005 11:48:32 PM ] Surf 'N' Earn -Sign innow VADODARA: The property battle between the erstwhile rulers of Baroda state has landed in more legal tangles. The Vadodara chief judicial magistrate has ordered a judicial inquiry into allegations that the eldest member of the royal family of Vadodara and M S University Chancellor Mrunalinidevi Puar conspired to usurp immovable property worth crores through fraudulent means. The investigation was ordered after the youngest sibling of the family Sangramsinh Gaekwad alleged that Puar and others had floated a company with their employees as directors with the sole purpose of usurping "the invaluable and immovable properties of Gaekwad Real Estate Traders, which is a proprietary concern of Alaukik Trading and Investment Corporation (ATIC)”. The Supreme Court has already stated that Sangramsinh’s company Gaekwad Investment Corporation has majority holding in Alaukik Trading. Alaukik also controlled some major properties of the family in Vadodara including Ashok Bungalow, Bakul Bungalow, the Nazarbaugh Palace, the Padamkut Bungalow, two lakh feet of land at Makarpura and the Indumati Mahal, among others. Sangramsinh has alleged that Mrunalinidevi and others floated Rana Agrochem Private Limited and made back-dated fake agreements with Alaukik to sell off a large part of the property for a meagre Rs 13 crore. The total value of this property is believed to be more than Rs 70 crore Intrigue in royal battle of Gaekwads TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, JULY 25, 2005 11:48:32 PM ] Sangramsinh’s advocate Kailash Jethmalani says, "We found out that on June 24, Rana Agrochem had filed a special civil suit against Gaekwad Real Estate Traders stating that in 1996, they had agreed to hand over the property of Alaukik to them. Our investigation revealed that Rana Agrochem has been promoted by employees of Mrunalinidevi and others. We believe that the alleged back-dated agreements too are fake.” According to the affidavit filed by Sangramsinh, Puar was appointed the director of ATIC in 1988 after the death of the last ruler of Vadodara, Fatehsinh Gaekwad. ATIC was floated by the erstwhile ruler in 1971, which was a subsidiary of Gaekwad Real Estate Traders - the company that owns all immovable properties of the Gaekwad family.. Sangramsinh has taken on his seven other siblings in a partition of property case pending in the Gujarat High Court since 1991. His brothers and sisters include chancellor of M S University Mrunalinidevi Puar, who is the eldest in the family, and Ranjitsinh Gaekwad, the eldest male member of the family. The family has been fighting over many precious properties including the heirloom jewellery - two precious diamonds and the crown and sword, valued at Rs 5.17 crore. Other jewellery, of both gold and silver, weighs 37,033 kg. Other moveable property includes the full armoury of weapons, the golden and silver cannons, the royal buggy, numerous antiques, paintings from the renaissance period and paintings of the famous painter Raja Ravi Verma apart from a large amount of real estate. There are five cars mentioned as well, including a Land Rover Crown, a Bentley (Crown), a Fiat Lusson 2300, a Number Hawk and a Premier President Fiat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    08/03/2005 07:31:40
    1. Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Unidentified photos
    2. akshay chavan
    3. : > At 04:36  02/08/05 +0530, you wrote: > >Dear Henry, > >Howdy,I do collect memoribilia ,stamps,etc of the > Princely states & lives in > >Jamnagar(erstwhile Nawanagar),hence could make out > something of what you > >sent. > >The First  one is in Gujarati and says ...GOVINDLAL > & CO.,AHMEDABAD...From > >BOMBAY ,dated 18.12.'73. > >The Second one is also in Gujarati & Says...THAKAR > HARJI RATANSHI GOKALDASS > >dated 22.4.'74. > >Both the dates must either VS or 1800's.And,the > pictures must be of leading > >traders or merchants. > >The third is a Post card with writing in Hindi, > saying...MAHARAJA > >DHIRAJ..the name cannot be read dated VS 1914...was > there a state called > >DHILWARA or something similar?The Post card has > been printed by a firm in > >Bombay. > >Hope that was of help to you. > >Ciao, > >>Umesh K.Bahri There was a jagir called bhilwara in rajasthan. Either in mewar or jaipur. But they were certainly not "Maharaja Dhiraj" but plain thakurs. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    08/03/2005 07:23:41
    1. Re: [INDIA-ROYALTY] Unidentified photos
    2. Henry Soszynski
    3. At 04:36  02/08/05 +0530, you wrote: >Dear Henry, >Howdy,I do collect memoribilia ,stamps,etc of the Princely states & lives in >Jamnagar(erstwhile Nawanagar),hence could make out something of what you >sent. >The First  one is in Gujarati and says ...GOVINDLAL & CO.,AHMEDABAD...From >BOMBAY ,dated 18.12.'73. >The Second one is also in Gujarati & Says...THAKAR HARJI RATANSHI GOKALDASS >dated 22.4.'74. >Both the dates must either VS or 1800's.And,the pictures must be of leading >traders or merchants. >The third is a Post card with writing in Hindi, saying...MAHARAJA >DHIRAJ..the name cannot be read dated VS 1914...was there a state called >DHILWARA or something similar?The Post card has been printed by a firm in >Bombay. >Hope that was of help to you. >Ciao, >>Umesh K.Bahri Greetings, Thanks to both Umesh and Arjun for deciphering the writing and at least identifying two of the individuals. Regretfully the third picture will remain largely unknown. The title of Maharajadhiraja should narrow things down but still no success. Cheers, Henry PS Venkatagiri and Vizianagram have been updated.

    08/03/2005 04:30:04