----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Edwards" <> does anyone have a photo(s) of *the inside of the old style 1st class 'bogie*' (4/6 berth carriage) circa 1940s/50s/60s? The one I am after is the one that had an 'ensuite' within the carriage and the door(s) opened onto the platform before they were replaced with the 'corridor' type 1st class bogies. One of the NSGR (Nizam's State Guaranteed Railway) would be great, however any other would be also suitable. ===================================== Kerry, my best suggestion at this moment is you try contacting a gentleman called John Lacey. He has supplied many an old image (of the type you want) to the picture gallery of the Indian Railways enthusiasts' group IRFCA. If you get in touch with the administrator of that group, he or some other member may help you either himself or give you the contact details of this John Lacey. Please do tell us what happens. Here is the link to IRFCA's online photo gallery featuring Carriage Interiors = http://www.irfca.org/gallery/Carriages/CarriageInteriors/ You'll not find there what you are looking for but it'll give you an idea. I am very sure I have seen some of these old first class coaches at least on two or three occasions in my childhood. Of course the 'corridor' type 1st class was what we were used to before it was abolished. Along with the long-gone second class sleepers, they too have become a distant memory. And the old third class has now been renamed second class. Again, I cannot remember their names off-hand, but there are several Hindi movies (made in the 1940s/50s/60s) that have scenes showing these old carriages. I am trying to recollect whether it was a similar coach that was used for the opening scene of the celebrated Shammi Kapoor - Asha Parekh film Teesari Manzil (1965-ish). Will check. Lastly, those of you who have read Paul Scott's monumental tetralogy The Jewel in the Crown (the Raj Quartet) will remember the chapter in which the Colonel's train journey from Bombay with his daughter (after his release from the German internment and return to India) is described in minutest details, including the time when he visits the en-suite loo in the compartment of the 1st-class coach they are in. THAT is your carriage. Did they show this journey in the TV series? Best, ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

As I remember the TV series Jewel in the Crown (from 30 years ago) there was no railway journey for Sarah Layton (Geraldine James) with her returning father, Colonel Layton. For all the trouble his wife and daughters had piled up for him while he was away, I thought the story line at the end gave him too little attention. Earlier we saw Sarah in her railway sleeper returning from her ruthless seduction in the seedy glamour of wartime Calcutta. I think we saw nothing of the cabin she was in. I do not think we saw any of the interiors sought by Kerry Edwards. We did though enjoy the Nawab's state carriage (I hope I have the right titles here), grander than whatever would have been offered the ordinary railway traveller. I think always at night, we saw the Nawab's wily chef de cabinet Count Bronowski (Eric Porter) and the British Political Officer Captain Rowan (Nichols Prevost) plotting and negotiating in the greatest luxury. I read that the exterior shots of the series were all taken on location in India, while the interiors were all created in a studio in England. I would be sorry if this carriage was merely a figment of a set-designer's imagination. Rupert Butler -----Original Message----- From: india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar Sent: 09 March 2014 19:10 To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Indian Railway Bogie Photos... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Edwards" <> does anyone have a photo(s) of *the inside of the old style 1st class 'bogie*' (4/6 berth carriage) circa 1940s/50s/60s? The one I am after is the one that had an 'ensuite' within the carriage and the door(s) opened onto the platform before they were replaced with the 'corridor' type 1st class bogies. One of the NSGR (Nizam's State Guaranteed Railway) would be great, however any other would be also suitable. ===================================== Kerry, my best suggestion at this moment is you try contacting a gentleman called John Lacey. He has supplied many an old image (of the type you want) to the picture gallery of the Indian Railways enthusiasts' group IRFCA. If you get in touch with the administrator of that group, he or some other member may help you either himself or give you the contact details of this John Lacey. Please do tell us what happens. Here is the link to IRFCA's online photo gallery featuring Carriage Interiors = http://www.irfca.org/gallery/Carriages/CarriageInteriors/ You'll not find there what you are looking for but it'll give you an idea. I am very sure I have seen some of these old first class coaches at least on two or three occasions in my childhood. Of course the 'corridor' type 1st class was what we were used to before it was abolished. Along with the long-gone second class sleepers, they too have become a distant memory. And the old third class has now been renamed second class. Again, I cannot remember their names off-hand, but there are several Hindi movies (made in the 1940s/50s/60s) that have scenes showing these old carriages. I am trying to recollect whether it was a similar coach that was used for the opening scene of the celebrated Shammi Kapoor - Asha Parekh film Teesari Manzil (1965-ish). Will check. Lastly, those of you who have read Paul Scott's monumental tetralogy The Jewel in the Crown (the Raj Quartet) will remember the chapter in which the Colonel's train journey from Bombay with his daughter (after his release from the German internment and return to India) is described in minutest details, including the time when he visits the en-suite loo in the compartment of the 1st-class coach they are in. THAT is your carriage. Did they show this journey in the TV series? Best, ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3705/7155 - Release Date: 03/05/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3705/7155 - Release Date: 03/05/14