Apologies to the List - most of whom will probably be delighted at my ENORMOUS blooper ! The email was one destined (I thought) to a well loved friend and we understand one another so that we can make light of events and people whom we hold dear. John and Helma ARE a delight and their company, as well as the computer fiasco - fiasco because he is of course expert - was all part and plan of a lovely day. Sorry John ! P.S But I DO get headaches and stiff neck et all when confronted with wretched computers. Wishes Sally