Mumbai, June 27, 2014 After restoration, Khada Parsi stands tall http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-in-school/after-restoration-khada-parsi-stands-tall/article6152874.ece ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

The Ancestry/Rootsweb servers were indeed down for about ten days due to an unprecedented outage. No mails made it to any of the Lists they host, including ours, during this period. Two of my mails were returned as ''not claimed by the Servers''. However, with these mails of yours, Kerry and John, it's clear that the traffic has resumed. But, as John says, unless someone writes, there would be no mails to read .... ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Feltham" G’day Kerrie, On 24 Jun 2014, at 6:14 am, Kerrie Farmer wrote: << Is it my computer or is the India list site "down"...as I am not getting any mails from India list. >> No, it is not ‘down’. Your msg just.appeared. You only get msgs if someone writes them! :-)

G’day Kerrie, On 24 Jun 2014, at 6:14 am, Kerrie Farmer <teds45telegraph@gmail.com> wrote: << Is it my computer or is the India list site "down"...as I am not getting any mails from India list. >> No, it is not ‘down’. Your msg just.appeared. You only get msgs if someone writes them! :-) ooroo

There were some posting on Indian coinage some time back, this might interest listers. More at http://www.rbi.org.in/scripts/ic_museum.aspx Kind Regards Kerry ​​ Pre-Colonial India Princely States: Coinage <http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/worldmalayaliclub/> The decline of the Mughal Empire commenced soon after the death of Aurangzeb. For a while, the military successes of the Marathas gave rise to the feeling that they would fill the vacuum left by the Mughals and don the imperial mantle. This was not to be. In the anarchy that followed, regional forces tended to reassert themselves and states with ancient antecedents, many of which had been independent during Medieval times, like the states of Rajputana, re-emerged. The dilution of central authority prompted Provincial Governors of the Mughals, to assume independence (e.g., the states of Avadh and Hyderabad). The turbulence of the times also gave rise to Military Adventurers who through force carved out kingdoms for themselves, like Scindia (Gwalior), and Hyder Ali (Mysore). Finally, there were 'states of convenience', - titular states whose ruling dynasty was supported either by the British (e.g., the Wodeyars) or the regional hegemon in the interest of high politics. When the British Crown took over the administration from the East India Company in 1858 there were over a hundered Princely States which were issuing coins nominally in the name of the Mughal Emperor. With the deportation of the last Mughal Emperor Bahadur Shah to Rangoon, the native rulers gradually replaced the Mughal superinscriptions on their coins with the name or portrait of the Queen of England as an expression of acceptance of British supremacy. Some coins like those of Mewar inscribed the word 'Dosti London' i.e. 'Friends of London' on their coins. The British over time curtailed the rights of the the Native States to strike their own coins. Representative Coinage of some of the States are depicted below. *The Maratha Confederacy* While the Marathas have had a long history, they came into the limelight in the seventeenth century led by the charismatic leader Shivaji. The Maratha Confederacy consolidated itself after Aurangzeb's death in 1707 AD. Their military successes saw them overrun most of India by 1738 AD. The Marathas were set to be the only power in India to take on the Imperial mantle and build an Indian empire. Their fortunes suffered a setback with the battle of Panipat in 1761 AD. They, however, retained their hegemony over the Deccan till the end of the century. With the decline of central power, Maratha families established the states of Baroda, Gwalior, Indore, etc. As regards coinage, Shivaji first issued coins in 1664 AD when he assumed the title of Raja. Coins were again issued to commemorate his coronation at Raigadh in 1674 AD. These coins are rare. Maratha Mints and coinage were consolidated around the middle of the eighteenth century. Three types of Rupees were in circulation during this period, viz., the Hali Sicca, the Ankushi rupee which was the standard rupee of Pune, and the Chandori rupee which was on par with the Ankushi. *Coins of the Marathas* Copper [image: TMarathaobv4.jpg] [image: TMaratharev4.jpg] Copper [image: Maratharev1.jpg] [image: Marathaobv1.jpg] Silver, Pune Mint [image: MarathaPuneobv.jpg] [image: MarathaPunerev.jpg] Silver, Pune Mint [image: TMarathaPunerev2.jpg] [image: TMarathaPuneobv2.jpg] *Awadh* The Province of Awadh, situated in Northern India, was governed by Nawab-Wazirs on behalf of the Mughal Emperor from around 1720 AD. With the decline of the Mughal Empire, the British Governor General, the Marquis of Hastings, persuaded Ghaziuddin Haidar, the Nawab-Wazir of Awadh, to cast off Mughal suzerainty and declare himself independent. Ghaziuddin was crowned in 1819, but the State of Awadh whose capital Lucknow, laid claimed the title of the cultural capital of India, did not survive even four decades. Despite Ghaziuddin's proclamation of independence, the first issues continued in the name of the Mughal Emperor, with the Awadh coat of arms on the reverse, before independent coins were issued. The coat of arms was imitative of the English and marked a departure from the traditional Mughal designs. Nasiruddin Hyder, Muhammed Ali, and Wajid Ali succeeded Ghaziuddin. The monetary system consisted of the gold ashrafi, (half, quarter, eighth and sixteenth of an ashrafi), the silver rupee with similar five denominations and the copper fulus. The defeat of the Nawab of Awadh at the Battle of Buxar (1764), precipitated the decline of the Kingdom. Wajid Ali Shah, the last Nawab was forced to abdicate in 1856 by Lord Dalhousie. During the 1857 uprising, the battle of Lucknow was one of the most bitterly fought battles. The revolutionaries are said to have minted coins in the name of the Nawab-Wazarat. *Coins of Avadh * [image: Tndpravd2o.jpg] [image: Tndpravd2r.jpg] [image: Tndur6rav.jpg] [image: Tndur6oav.jpg] *Mysore* The Kingdom of Mysore was situated in Southwest India and was ruled by various Hindu dynasties. In 1761, Haider Ali a military adventurer deposed the Wodeyar ruler and proclaimed himself King. In the region, coins of both the Mughal and Vijayanagar standards were current. His coin issues coins of the pagoda types continued to carry the motifs and iconographic forms of the Vijayanagar period (e.g., Hara-Gauri) with his initial, the letter 'He' on the reverse. Tipu, his son, succeed him and assumed the title of Sultan. He introduced various innovations and new varieties in his coinage, continuing with the pagodas, the mohurs, and introduced his own standards. An interesting feature of his coins is that they do not bear his name. Tipu Sultan, a progressive ruler, was one of the few Indian princes to perceive the imperial designs of the British and oppose them; he, however, was slain in the battle of Srirangpatanam in 1799 after which the British reinstated Krishna Raja Wodeyar as King of Mysore. Krishna Raja Wodeyar continued to issue coins of the Vijayanagar and Mughal standards. The gold coins carried the Hara-Gauri motif and the King's name on the reverse. The silver coins were in the Mughal tradition, bearing the name of the Mughal Emperor, Shah Alam II on the obverse and the name of the mint on the reverse. Some of the smaller fraction coins carried the image of the deity Chamunda, the family deity of the Wodeyar family; other coins carried motifs drawn from nature and inscriptions in Nagri, Persian, Kannada, and English at various points of time. *Coin of Hyder Ali* [image: THyderAlifanamobv.jpg] [image: THyderAlifanamrev.jpg] *Rupee of Tipu Sultan* [image: Ttipuobv.jpg] [image: Ttipurev.jpg] *Coins of the Sikhs* Guru Nanak laid the foundations of a religious community, which gradually metamorphised into the Sikh Empire, a formidable military power in North Western India. This transformation was brought about on account of continued Mughal oppression. Constant harassment by the Mughal forces because of the failure of the Sikhs to embrace Islam, led to the emergence of Sikh militarism. However it was with the defeat of Ahmad Shah Durrani at Sirhind in 1710, that the Sikh league also known as Khalsa, came into its own. The whole tract of land between Jhelum and Sutlej was divided among the Sikh chieftains. Around 1777 AD, coins were issued from Amritsar without the name of the Mughal Emperor and were called 'Nanak Shahi'. These coins bore the name of Guru Gobind Singh, the tenth and the last Guru of the Sikhs. The most distinguished statesman amongst the chieftains was Ranjit Singh who successfully recaptured Amritsar, Ludhiana, Multan, Kashmir and Peshawar. The treaty of 1809, with the British, confirmed his right to rule the tracts he had occupied south of Sutlej. However, after his death, the Sikh Empire began to deteriorate and was finally annexed to the British Empire in 1849. Most coins struck during the reign of Ranjit Singh bear a large leaf on one side and bear Persian legends. He also introduced coins with Gurumukhi legends, mostly of the copper variety. *Coins of the Sikhs* [image: Tsikh1.jpg] [image: Tsikh1a.jpg] [image: Tsikh2.jpg] [image: Tsikh2r.jpg] [image: Tsikhleafobv.jpg] [image: Tsikhleafrev.jpg] *Hyderabad* The Princely State of Hyderabad was founded around 1724 when Mir Qamar-ud-Din, the Mughal Viceroy of the Deccan, assumed independence under the title of Asaf Jah and founded the dynasty of the Nizams of Hyderabad. In the post 1857 era, the State of Hyderabad was one of the largest Princely States in India and later came to be known as the 'Dominion of His Exalted Highness, the Nizam'. The State which covered territories presently included in Andhra Pradesh, Maharashtra, and Karnataka was assimilated into the Indian Union in September 1948. In matters of currency and coinage, the coins of the Nizams were issued in the name of the Mughal Emperor till 1858 when a coin legend was introduced with the name of the founder of the state, Asaf Jha. Thereafter, they were struck independently and the new coins were termed the 'Hali Sicca', i.e., the current coins. In 1903-04 coins were machine struck for the first time. These coins featured the Charminar on the obverse with Persian inscription Nizam-ul-mulk Bahadur Asaf Jah around it. The reverse carried the value. These coins confirmed to the British coins in denominations and metals. *Coins of Hyderabad* Denomination Obverse Reverse Ashrafi [image: Tndprhyd1o.jpg] [image: Tndprhyd1r.jpg] Rupee [image: THyderabadobv1.jpg] [image: THyderabadrev1.jpg] 8 Annas [image: THyderabadobv2.jpg] [image: THyderabadrev2.jpg] 4 Annas [image: THyderabadobv3.jpg] [image: THyderabadrev3.jpg] 2 Annas [image: THyderabadobv4.jpg] [image: THyderabadrev4.jpg] *Some Representative Coins of other Princely States* *Coins of Datia State* [image: Tdatiaobv.jpg] [image: Tdatiarev.jpg] *Coins of Faridkot State* [image: TFaridkotobv.jpg] [image: TFaridkotrev.jpg] *Coins of Udaipur* Denomination Obverse Reverse Rupee [image: Tudairev5.jpg] [image: Tudaiobv5.jpg] Half Rupee [image: Tudairev4.jpg] [image: Tudaiobv4.jpg] One Fourth Rupee [image: Tudairev3.jpg] [image: Tudaiobv3.jpg] One Eight Rupee [image: Tudairev2.jpg] [image: Tudaiobv2.jpg] One Sixteenth Rupee [image: Tudairev1.jpg] [image: Tudaiobv1.jpg] *​Source**: RBI's Monetary Musuem.* ​

UK Marks Centenary of Indian-Origin WW II Spy Noor Inayat Khan June 19, 2014 London: The birth centenary year of Noor Inayat Khan, the famous Indian-origin World War II spy, was observed in the UK this week. Popular English novelist and political commentator Frederick Forsyth was among the key guests at a special memorial event in London to celebrate the life of Noor, the great-great-great- grand-daughter of Tipu Sultan, who became the first female radio operator to be sent from Britain into occupied France. (SNIP) http://www.ndtv.com/article/diaspora/uk-marks-centenary-of-indian-origin-ww-ii-spy-noor-inayat-khan-543955 ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

Is it my computer or is the India list site "down"...as I am not getting any mails from India list. On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:00 AM, <india-british-raj-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. McCluskie's Ganj: The Lost Home of The Anglos (Kerry Edwards) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kerry Edwards <ozmulki@gmail.com> > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > Cc: > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:24:30 +1100 > Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] McCluskie's Ganj: The Lost Home of The Anglos > A recent documentary.... > Sadly the Anglo-Indians had/have no collective unity, business sense nor > impetus of hard labor to make a co-operative like McCluskiegunj work. I > think the journalist hit it on the head when he compared them to the Parsi > community and their ability to do this. > > Worth a watch! > > http://youtu.be/OBWdOO5hj8Y > > > > > > > ** > > > To contact the INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ list administrator, send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ mailing list, send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > >

http://www.ibiblio.org/britishraj/Hodson/introduction.html Hodson of Hodson’s Horse or Twelve Years of a Soldier’s Life in India Being extracts from the letters of the late Major W. S. R. Hodson, B.A., Trinity College, Cambridge, First Bengal European Fusiliers, Commandant of Hodson’s Horse With a vindication from the attack of Mr. Bosworth Smith Edited by his brother George H. Hodson, M.A., F.S.A., Vicar of Enfield, Prebendary of St. Paul’s, Late Senior Fellow of Trinity College, Cambridge 1883 Page iv If a soldier, Chase brave employments with a naked sword Throughout the world. Fool not; for all may have, If they dare try, a glorious life or grave. GEORGE HERBERT. Page v Franz Hill, Camberley. Dear Mr. Hodson, I am much obliged for the perusal of your Preface to the new Edition of your Memoir of your Brother. I am now, as I have always been, fully convinced of his honour and integrity. Believe me, Dear Mr. Hodson, Yours very truly, NAPIER OF MAGDALA. Nov. 4th, 1883. Page vi To the Memory of Sir Henry Lawrence, K.C.B., The true Christian, the brave soldier, the faithful friend, these extracts from the letters of one whom he trained to follow in his footsteps, and who now rests near him at Lucknow, are dedicated by the editor. They were lovely and pleasant in their lives, And in their deaths they were not divided. Table of Contents Introduction Preface to the First Edition Part 1 Chapter 1 Early life – Rugby – Trinity College, Cambridge – Guernsey Militia Chapter 2 Arrival in India – Campaign on the Sutlej, battles of Moodki, Ferozeshah, Sobraon – Occupation of Lahore – 1845–6 Chapter 3 First Bengal European Fusiliers – Cashmere with Sikh Army – Lawrence Asylum – Appointment to Guide Corps – June 1846–October 1847 Chapter 4 Employment in the Punjab as second in command of the Corps of Guides, and also as Assistant to the Resident at Lahore – Road-making and surveying – Campaign of 1848–9 – Capture of forts – Battle of Gujerat – Annexation of Punjab – October 1847–March 1849 Chapter 5 Annexation of Punjab – Increase of Corps of Guides at Peshawur – Transfer to Civil Department as Assistant Commissioner – April 1849–April 1850 Chapter 6 Tour in Cashmere and Thibet with Sir Henry Lawrence – Transfer to cis-Sutlej Provinces – June 1851–October 1851 Chapter 7 Marriage – Command of the Guides – Peshawur – Euzofzai – Frontier warfare – Murdan – January 1852–November 1854 Chapter 8 Reverses – Unjust treatment – Official enmity – Loss of command – Suppression of report – Return to regimental duties – Better prospects – Major Taylor’s report – Testimony of Sir R. Napier – Mr. Montgomery – November 1854–May 1857 Part 2 – Narrative of the Delhi campaign, 1857, 1858 Chapter 1 Outbreak of rebellion – March down to Delhi from Dugshai with First European Bengal Fusiliers – Appointment to intelligence department – Ride from Kurnal to Meerut to open communication – Order to raise regiment – Death of General Anson – May 10th–June 8th Chapter 2 Siege of Delhi – June–August Chapter 3 Siege of Delhi, continued – Rohtuck expedition – Assault – Delhi taken – Capture of King – Capture and execution of Shahzadahs – August 17th–September 25th Chapter 4 Operations in the neighbourhood of Delhi – Showers’ column – Seaton’s column – Actions at Gungeree, Puttialee, Mynpooree – Ride to commander-in-chief’s camp – Junction of forces – Shumshabad – October–January Chapter 5 Alumbagh, Lucknow – The Begum’s Palace – Banks’ House – The Soldier’s Death – Notices – Concluding remarks – February 24th–March 12th HomeTable of ContentsIntroduction Introduction Extracts from the letters of Major William Hodson. View on www.ibiblio.org Preview by Yahoo

Hi to you all Wishing to hear from anyone who is connected to or related to a William Henry deacon born 1888 in England. William married a Gertrude Rosamond Crell/Croll in Bombay India in 1919. Gertrude I think was married before William to a George Clifford Kirk. William and Gertrude had 2 children to my knowledge by the name of Edward Wallace Deacon born 1923 and William Harold Deacon born 1921 died 1944 in Italy. I am hoping that someone will get in contact with me to help me out with this family any information whatsoever would be great. Hopefully some relation will also get in touch. Thank you Gaye, (Brisbane, QLD. Australia) ------------------------- Email sent using Optus Webmail ------------------------- Email sent using Optus Webmail

Ten Cities That Made An Empire by Tristram Hunt, book review: A historian turned politician looks at the great cities that shaped Britain's past http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/ten-cities-that-made-an-empire-by-tristram-hunt-book-review-a-historian-turned-politician-looks-at-the-great-cities-that-shaped-britains-past-9492737.html# ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

P and O history site: http://www.poheritage.com/ ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

Dear Listers, I am searching for descendants of John Livingstone (b 1842 d13 July 1872 Hyderabad) - Clara Edwards (b 30 July 1849 Madras d 23 April 1931 Hyderabad) who were married 14 July 1869 St George's Church Hyderabad. Clara was a teacher at St George's Girls' School Hyderabad along with her sister Amelia Edwards (spinster) and brother John William Edwards (my g-gf) who was Head of St George's Boys' school and later 1st Inspector of Schools in the Nizam's Govt. All were children of George and Julia Edwards (Brown) ex of Tellicherry and Madras. John Livingstone had a son William Livingstone b17 January 1869 Hyderabad to a native woman Doorgoo and later married Clara. 2 known children Alberta Julia Livingstone b15 September 1872 d 29 March 1888 Secunderabad and Robert Clive Livingstone b 20 July 1872 m Minnie Henrietta Johnson (Johnstone) 25 November 1903 Bangalore (no known children found) No further records of these two are available. Are there any known descendents of this family around? ** All records and dates are from Original Registers at St George's Church Hyderabad. Kind Regards Kerry

Note that the Eurasianness is cunningly covered for by the initial invocation of Kim, and but little addressing of the brown mothers that I can see.  The rhetoric of this very useful wonderful piece deserves to be analysed.  And what happened to all those cottages?  Sanjay Sircar ________________________________ From: John Feltham <wantok@me.com> To: Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2014 2:12 AM Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Eurasian symbol 1908 paper from NZ, talking about Dr.Graham's Homes in Kalimpong. Read 'KIM AND HIS BROTHERS'... http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=OW19080812.1.88&e=-------10--1----0-- ooroo ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

1908 paper from NZ, talking about Dr.Graham's Homes in Kalimpong. Read 'KIM AND HIS BROTHERS'... http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=OW19080812.1.88&e=-------10--1----0-- ooroo

27 May 2014 Housing Shortages in Bombay in the 1860s A subject currently much in the news at the moment is the shortage of affordable houses to buy in Britain, and the high rents being demanded, particularly in the south-east. It is interesting to note that this is an old problem, which crops up time and again in history books and archives. One file of correspondence in the India Office Records gives the example of the difficulty experienced by Government servants as a result of the high rents being demanded for accommodation at Bombay in the mid-1860s. http://britishlibrary.typepad.co.uk/untoldlives/2014/05/housing-shortages-in-bombay-in-the-1860s.html ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

May 24, 2014 The humble origins of radio broadcast in India http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/the-humble-origins-of-radio-broadcast-in-india/article6042867.ece ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

Hi folks, I was reading the Will of Eldred Addison of Calcutta (dated 1787), and found a reference to a son, John Addison, who was born on the 21st of June, 1782. According to the Will, John's mother was called Bibee Saheb. Hope this is of some use to somebody out there, who is researching Addisons. Cheers, Lynne.

My interests are in Anthony JOACHIM b 1797 d. 1837 his son John JOACHIM b1830 probably in Madras ( Chennai) and his second wife Henrietta ( Enritha ) Susan COURT b 1846 (daughter of John Henry COURT and Maria DOSSEYN ) whom he married 2 Nov 1864 in Black Town, Madras Their son Daniel Augustus JOACHIM b abt 1868 - 1872 Baptised 30 Apr 1892 probably in Assumption Church Madras about 19 days before his marriage there to Elizabeth ROSARIO b 1876 Madras daughter of George ROSARIO. Any further information on these families, or interest in them Bruce Shanks New Zealand bruce.shanks@xtra.co.nz

Hi Colin, Greetings. My 2.5 cents. Backerganj as it is spelled today and Mymensingh are in Bangladesh. Back in the early 1800’s, there was no paper currency. One rupee was a silver rupee of about 11.7 grams. 1000 rupees would be 11.7 kgs of silver and 100,000 rupees would be 1170 kgs of silver. Gold was about 16 or 20 times the price of silver in those days (not sure, but that's the best info I could find so far). In an earlier reply, we saw the price of rupee to the pound, so how much was it to the US dollar in those days? As both were silver, 2.5 rupees was about 1 silver dollar or 1 ounce of sterling silver. Or 1 cent was 2.5 paisa ????. Idris. Sent from Windows Mail From: colin hollow Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎May‎ ‎15‎, ‎2014 ‎1‎:‎21‎ ‎PM To: msbajwa@gmail.com, india-british-raj@rootsweb.com, brinds@xtra.co.nz, nbphanse@gmail.com Many thanks for the replies to my questions each has been very helpful. I had the not searched for Talook in Hobsonjobson. The reference to Tallok and Mouzah is as follows "Tallook called Ioar Amragachia in Zillah Backergunge. Mouzah called Amtollah in Zillah Mymensing. Mouzah called Hoglah in Zillah Mymensing." Are any of these places familiar to anyone? regards Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mandeep Singh Bajwa" <msbajwa@gmail.com> To: "British Raj List" <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Help wanted with terms and currency values > Mouza is Persian/Urdu for village and was used as such in land revenue > records. > > Mandeep Bajwa > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® on Reliance Mobile, India's No. 1 Network. Go for > it! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Narendra Phanse <nbphanse@gmail.com> > Sender: india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 17:58:16 > To: colin hollow<chollow@netspace.net.au>; > india-british-raj@rootsweb.com<india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Help wanted with terms and currency > values > > Hi Colin, > Mouza is equivalent of "at" and the word which follows is the name of the > village or town. Tallook means subdivision of a district. And district > was > known as Zillah. So, if I own lands in two villages namely Dumraon and > Maner for instance, it will be described as "Mouza Dumraon and Maner. If > the name of the administrative subdivision is Buxar, it coulld be "Tallooq > Buxar". Your best bet would be identify two names that follow 'Mouza' as > the places which John Hollow owned. If he owned these villages, he would > be > a zamindar. 220,000 rupees was a big fortune in 1785-1858. Find out how > much was a British pound to an Indian rupee in that period. Currently > British pound is equal to almost 100 Indian rupees. > > On Wednesday, May 14, 2014, colin hollow <chollow@netspace.net.au> wrote: > >> Hello, I am a new member of this list and am seeking help with >> information >> I >> have gathered from wills and estate inventory and account papers of >> people >> with the surname Hollow that lived in Calcutta and Dacca from about 1785 >> through to 1858. >> >> >> >> The inventory papers of John Hollow (c 1858-1834) when listing his >> property >> mention two Mouzahs and a Tallook, they are named. I understand a Mouzah >> was >> a village. Is this correct? What is a Tallook (could be Sallook)? Would >> John >> own them or just have the rights to have the indigo grown? John was >> referred >> to as an Indigo planter and eventually a zemindar. >> >> >> >> The inventory talks of upper roomed houses and lower roomed houses. What >> would these be like? >> >> >> >> The estate value amounts to about 220,000 rupees. Given this was in 1834 >> is >> this a large estate? Is there any way of working out what it would covert >> to >> in money now? >> >> >> >> Any help with these questions would be very welcome. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Colin Hollow > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On May 14, 2014, at 3:19 PM, colin hollow <chollow@netspace.net.au> wrote: Hi Colin: When I was growing up in India in the 1920's and 1930's, the value of money was: Rs. 13 to the English pound and about Rs. 3 to the US dollar. In the 19th century, it was about Rs. 10 to the English pound. By any standard your for bear was a very very rich man! Moira Breen USA > Hello, I am a new member of this list and am seeking help with information I > > > Regards > > Colin Hollow > > > > > ---

Many thanks for the replies to my questions each has been very helpful. I had the not searched for Talook in Hobsonjobson. The reference to Tallok and Mouzah is as follows "Tallook called Ioar Amragachia in Zillah Backergunge. Mouzah called Amtollah in Zillah Mymensing. Mouzah called Hoglah in Zillah Mymensing." Are any of these places familiar to anyone? regards Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mandeep Singh Bajwa" <msbajwa@gmail.com> To: "British Raj List" <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Help wanted with terms and currency values > Mouza is Persian/Urdu for village and was used as such in land revenue > records. > > Mandeep Bajwa > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® on Reliance Mobile, India's No. 1 Network. Go for > it! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Narendra Phanse <nbphanse@gmail.com> > Sender: india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 17:58:16 > To: colin hollow<chollow@netspace.net.au>; > india-british-raj@rootsweb.com<india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Help wanted with terms and currency > values > > Hi Colin, > Mouza is equivalent of "at" and the word which follows is the name of the > village or town. Tallook means subdivision of a district. And district > was > known as Zillah. So, if I own lands in two villages namely Dumraon and > Maner for instance, it will be described as "Mouza Dumraon and Maner. If > the name of the administrative subdivision is Buxar, it coulld be "Tallooq > Buxar". Your best bet would be identify two names that follow 'Mouza' as > the places which John Hollow owned. If he owned these villages, he would > be > a zamindar. 220,000 rupees was a big fortune in 1785-1858. Find out how > much was a British pound to an Indian rupee in that period. Currently > British pound is equal to almost 100 Indian rupees. > > On Wednesday, May 14, 2014, colin hollow <chollow@netspace.net.au> wrote: > >> Hello, I am a new member of this list and am seeking help with >> information >> I >> have gathered from wills and estate inventory and account papers of >> people >> with the surname Hollow that lived in Calcutta and Dacca from about 1785 >> through to 1858. >> >> >> >> The inventory papers of John Hollow (c 1858-1834) when listing his >> property >> mention two Mouzahs and a Tallook, they are named. I understand a Mouzah >> was >> a village. Is this correct? What is a Tallook (could be Sallook)? Would >> John >> own them or just have the rights to have the indigo grown? John was >> referred >> to as an Indigo planter and eventually a zemindar. >> >> >> >> The inventory talks of upper roomed houses and lower roomed houses. What >> would these be like? >> >> >> >> The estate value amounts to about 220,000 rupees. Given this was in 1834 >> is >> this a large estate? Is there any way of working out what it would covert >> to >> in money now? >> >> >> >> Any help with these questions would be very welcome. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Colin Hollow > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com