----- Original Message ----- From: teresa woolmer [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: Ancestry in British India My grandmother's family were in India for several generations prior to 1900, having left Ireland with prices on their heads. My grandmother then married a British Army officer! I am researching my family tree and hope you can advise me where I might find birth, marriage and death records and certificates in British India between 1800 and 1900. Many thanks Tessa Woolmer [email protected]

Dear friends, I am currently going through Terry's emails list as some of you may not not know that he has sadly but peacefully passed away last Thursday 29th April. This is an extremely difficult period for me as I was Terry's loving and devoted partner for the last 14 years. I have set up a page on justgiving.com to support Katharine House Hospice where we were looked after for 2 solid weeks. We would have been lost without their love and care. If you could donate some of your hard earned cash to support them. I would be overjoyed. Iron Sherpa Volume 2 is finished printing, sadly he hasn't seen completed. Click here if you wish to contribute. http://www.justgiving.com/terrymartindhr With Lovingkindness, Fabien

Tuesday, Apr 27, 2010 MYSORE: Col. John Wakefield, the torchbearer of Karnataka's first eco-tourism project - the Kabini River Lodge on the banks of the Kabini at Karapur in Mysore district - passed away at the Kabini lodge on Monday. Mr. Wakefield (95), fondly known as 'Papa,' died of age-related illness. His daughter Jackey was with him when the end came around 10.45 a.m., according to sources at the lodge. He was hospitalised in Bangalore for over a month and was brought back to the Kabini lodge a few days ago on his request. Mr. Wakefield used to share his "jungle tales" with visitors, who included many international guests. He was the brand ambassador of Jungle Lodges and Resorts (JLR) and was instrumental in the success of its eco-tourism projects. 'Papa' lived in Karapur for three decades and promoted wildlife conservation, sensitising visitors to the importance of protecting forest wealth and wild animals. Son of the former manager of the Maharaja of Tikarey in Bihar, Mr. Wakefield came to Karnataka as the representative of Tiger Tops Jungle Lodge (TTJL) - a wildlife resort with its headquarters in Nepal - to set up a jungle lodge at Nagarahole on the invitation of late Chief Minister R. Gundu Rao., who was impressed with his stay at the Tiger Tops lodge in Nepal. A Briton born in the India of the days of the Raj; a boy who grew up in the royals environs of a principality in Bihar, and eased into a privileged lifestyle punctuated by the shouts of nannies rising over gun fire while being out on a shikar; a boy who shot his first panther while he was all of eleven years old; a man who had the opportunity to see our country in all its ancientness; one who was witness to a completely bygone era where Studebakers and Morris Minors, Austins and Aston Martins; and elephants and palanquins were part of the traffic on some remote tree lined avenue somewhere in the north of India; perhaps Bihar, perhaps Delhi. http://www.hindu.com/2010/04/27/stories/2010042757371800.htm http://churumuri.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/how-papa-wakefield-brought-darwin-to-kabini/ --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

"Happy go lucky Greg" was also the announcer of the request programme {happy birthday messages and other greetings} which was very popular. I have a photo of him with family friends when he visited Bangalore mid fifties. Radio Ceylon was the only programme we were able to tune in to which broadcast popular English music. Reception was not always good with the multi-valve short wave set (Murphy) and aerial from the tree tops. Pat in NZ

Listers, Have not had any luck so far with the new LDS site with my India connections. Worst part is my grandfather and great aunt were born in Ceylon. However my grandfather later worked in India so my father was born in India. My grandmother died in Calcutta probably about 1925. My grandmother was cremated and my grandfather carried her ashes when he left India at Independence. I should find a death certificate if she was cremated - Right? I know some details about her death but my father was only about 7 or 8 years of age at the time. Elizabeth Warner

The prestigious Fergusson College in Poona (Pune) was named after Sir James Fergusson, the Governor of Bombay during the British raj, in 1880. The Kutch Museum was originally known as the Fergusson Museum after its founder, Sir James Fergusson. Built in 1877, it is the oldest museum in Gujarat and has an excellent collection. He greatly encouraged education in the Bombay Presidency. Before leaving for Jamaica he had accepted the Presidentship of the South Africa British Indian Committee. More at: http://www.maybole.org/notables/fergusson/sirjames.htm --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

>From Indian Journal of History of Science, 39.3 (2004) 307-334 http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/rawdataupload/upload/insa/INSA_1/2000c4e3-307.pdf Balaji Prabhakar Modak - A 19th Century Science Propagator In Maharashtra (Western India) by Abhidha S.Dhumatkar Balaji Prabhakar Modak (1847-1906) was a product of 19th century Maharashtrian (Marathi-speakers) renaissance. He shifted his interest from social and political movements to the area of science movements through translations of science literature available during his time. Modak being a hard core propagator enriched Marathi literature by his translations and original writings on almost all branches of natural and social science, then taught in schools and colleges. Modak made great efforts to revolutionize the hitherto theoretical, urban and elitist movement for spread of science by extending it to the princes and masses of the southern Maratha region, with the help of his innovative science exhibitions. The demonstrative character of exhibits added a new dimension to the movement for spread of science in Maharashtra. He introduced electric lamps in south Maharashtra and created scientific ambience in Kolhapur. He awakened the princes of south Maharashtra to play their due role for spread of science movement. Science education was started in western India during the tenure of Mount Stuart Elphinstone (1819-1829), the first Governor of the Bombay Presidency. In 1823, the Engineering institute was established by George Resto Jervis to train surveyors and builders for public works department in Indian languages. In 1845, the Grant Medical College was developed, out of the medical school which started its work. At the initial phases, the College got enthsiatstic support to western education in general, but did not receive much support from the vegetarian Chitapawan and Karhada Brahmins because of their disapproval of dissection. Mr. Jagannath Shankarseth appealed to Indians to study medicine in order to free Indians from high fee of English doctors whereas Mr. Bhau Mahajan asked them to join the engineering institute by giving up their caste prejudice. [snip] --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

BBC World Service still alive and well, and can even be picked up in England when the wind is in the right direction. Just a shame some of the local stations abroard had to close down (Aden etc.). For mariners it was, and still is, our link with home, Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Hadley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] SLBC Re: RadioandtheRaj:broadcastinginBritish India. > Oh yes, I remember the World Service very well, Harshoo.......damn I feel > old!! :)) Cheers, Lynne. :)) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:04 PM > Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] SLBC Re: Radio > andtheRaj:broadcastinginBritish India. > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Hadley" >> We used to pick up many overseas broadcasts on our old shortwave >> set......hours of fun listening to the music from different countries. >> :)) >> Cheers, Lynne. :)) >> ======================= >> >> And there was a time when anything and everything that was said >> on Auntie Beeb's news programmes was considered gospel truth >> by most Indians. Our government-owned AIR or All India Radio was >> infamous for its censored, one-sided, selective coverage and so, >> for independent confirmation or first-hand information, BBC's World >> Service was the only reliable source, well within the reach of everybody >> using short-wave receivers. >> >> There is a story - may be quite true, may be apocryphal, and I guess, >> going back to the 1950s - which tells how a regular Calcuttawallah >> Englishman was taken aback while driving to the airport, when the >> cabbie suddenly made a detour, and instead of using the direct road >> on which the passenger had travelled a hundred times, drove his taxi >> through lanes and alleys. ''What's the matter'', he asked, ''do you think >> I am new to this city? This isn't the way to the airport.'' The cabbie >> calmly replied, ''No worries, sahib, I am not trying to cheat you.'' He >> pointed to a portable transistor radio in the glove compartment, and >> said, ''Just before you came in, I was listening to BBC news and it >> said just half an hour ago rioting broke out near 'Maidan'. I don't want >> to be caught up in that, so I am using this long-cut. I won't go that way >> again till the BBC tells me it's safe.'' >> >> --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2848 - Release Date: 05/01/10 19:27:00

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Dear Lynne, No, the AIs in Pakistan have no such problems....all identify themselves with the British. Most of the current generation have never lived in India and certainly do not identify with Pakistan. So, to them their worlds mentally NEVER collide!!! Warm regards, Mike

Dear Harshawardhan Sahib, Most people still listen to the Urdu service in Pakistan and believe every word as they STILL do not have any faith in other private and state owned radio stations. In fact, when I was living in White Plains, NY I began my mornings with watching the BBC World TV before setting off to work. The US TV network rarely cover international news unless if involves the US in some way and even ABC's "World News' is mostly about the US . Without the BBC I would have remained unaware of the 'outside' world. So the influence of the BBC is still as strong as it ever was. The only difference now is the crystal clear reception. Warm regards, Mike

Dear Listers, Is there anyone on this list with memories of pre-1940 Saharanpur especially of the railway families. If yes. please contact me off line as I would like to get some inputs about that period as my wife's father and Uncles were educated and later posted there. Many thanks, Warm regards, Michael

G'day folks, On 01/05/2010, at 7:47 PM, Hedgie & Pat wrote: ----- Original Message ----- > > I think first an apology is called for to those who are not interested > in this particular thread. But if they have never ever heard Radio > Ceylon/SLBC, they wouldn't understand this nostalgia. When I said that the Bianca Hit Parade was on a Sunday evening, I did't tell the full story. Some kind benefactor donated a fine short wave radio to the school. The HM decided that ti needed t be put inside a wooden box, with strategic holes for cooling purposes. He also decreed that it have lock so that its use could be controlled. The box was duly made by the school chippy. A large hasp with a huge hinge and a very solid lock was the final product. It didn't take us boys to work out how to get around the problem of no key. So, on Sunday nights we would creep out of the senior dormitory taking a small hammer and drift. The pin holding the hinge together we knocked out and the program began. After a while the hinge pin became so slack that it could be pulled out by hand. ooroo

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We learnt to unravel the intricacies of Pidgin English, listening to the programs from Port Moresby. Now I only listen to rock music on FM. :)) Although I found a lovely station the other night quite by accident, playing Blues from 10 pm to midnight. But sadly lacking in the hiss and crackle department ala the old shortwave days. :) Cheers, Lynne. :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Rogers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] SLBC Re: Radio and theRaj:broadcastinginBritish India. > While in Malaya we listened to, I think, the Ceylon Radio and the only > thing > that I do recollect was the joke saying "H.Samuel Never Right Watch" as > this > was a persistamt advert...But I am old now and not to sure about > anything....{;}}> > > Cheers > > Peter Rogers Suffolk UK > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh yes, I remember the World Service very well, Harshoo.......damn I feel old!! :)) Cheers, Lynne. :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] SLBC Re: Radio andtheRaj:broadcastinginBritish India. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Hadley" > We used to pick up many overseas broadcasts on our old shortwave > set......hours of fun listening to the music from different countries. > :)) > Cheers, Lynne. :)) > ======================= > > And there was a time when anything and everything that was said > on Auntie Beeb's news programmes was considered gospel truth > by most Indians. Our government-owned AIR or All India Radio was > infamous for its censored, one-sided, selective coverage and so, > for independent confirmation or first-hand information, BBC's World > Service was the only reliable source, well within the reach of everybody > using short-wave receivers. > > There is a story - may be quite true, may be apocryphal, and I guess, > going back to the 1950s - which tells how a regular Calcuttawallah > Englishman was taken aback while driving to the airport, when the > cabbie suddenly made a detour, and instead of using the direct road > on which the passenger had travelled a hundred times, drove his taxi > through lanes and alleys. ''What's the matter'', he asked, ''do you think > I am new to this city? This isn't the way to the airport.'' The cabbie > calmly replied, ''No worries, sahib, I am not trying to cheat you.'' He > pointed to a portable transistor radio in the glove compartment, and > said, ''Just before you came in, I was listening to BBC news and it > said just half an hour ago rioting broke out near 'Maidan'. I don't want > to be caught up in that, so I am using this long-cut. I won't go that way > again till the BBC tells me it's safe.'' > > --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We used to pick up many overseas broadcasts on our old shortwave set......hours of fun listening to the music from different countries. :)) Cheers, Lynne. :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] SLBC Re: Radio and the Raj:broadcastinginBritish India. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "mukund murty" > Gosh, lucky boy, all *we* had was notebooks in our days :-) > > On 1 May 2010 12:06, Michael Ali wrote: >> The English service of Radio Ceylon was very, very popular with the >> Anglo-Indian and Goan communities in Karachi. In fact, those of us > who had tape recorders ( usually Grundig spool-type) waited with baited > breath for any Jim Reeves song to come on air to press the 'Record' > button. > ================ > > I think first an apology is called for to those who are not interested > in this particular thread. But if they have never ever heard Radio > Ceylon/SLBC, they wouldn't understand this nostalgia. > > The majority of RC's English Service listenership consisted of Anglo > -Indians and Goans mainly from Bombay, Madras, and other places > in south India. Vernon Corea who joined Radio Ceylon in 1957 was > its most famous broadcaster. There are many webpages remembering > him. See this -Vernon Corea - The Golden Voice of Radio Ceylon > http://members.tripod.com/ivan_corea/id8.html > > The same page also shows Ameen Sayani's photo (see yesterday's > mail). And then there this = Wartime Radio in Ceylon > > Lord Louis Mountbatten moved the RADIO SEAC operations from New > Delhi first to Kandy and then to Colombo during World War II. This was > Ceylon's first ever wartime radio station and it played a vital role from > 1944 - 1946. > > > Some other interesting pages on Radio Ceylon's history: > > http://www.planetradiocity.com/musicopedia/music_decade.php?conid=2337 > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=274538565077 > > http://ivan_corea.tripod.com/ > > Welcome to Sri Lanka Broadcasting Corporation > http://www.slbc.lk/ > > --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, I'm wondering now if as an AI, you listened to my favourite Jim Reeves song, "When Two Worlds Collide"?!! :)) Cheers, from a tongue-in-cheek Lynne. :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Ali" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] SLBC Re: Radio and the Raj: broadcastinginBritish India. > Dear Listers, > > The English service of Radio Ceylon was very, very popular with the > Anglo-Indian and Goan communities in Karachi. In fact, those of us who had > tape recorders ( usually Grundig spool-type) waited with baited breath for > any Jim Reeves song to come on air to press the 'Record' button. > > Warm regards, > > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Hadley" We used to pick up many overseas broadcasts on our old shortwave set......hours of fun listening to the music from different countries. :)) Cheers, Lynne. :)) ======================= And there was a time when anything and everything that was said on Auntie Beeb's news programmes was considered gospel truth by most Indians. Our government-owned AIR or All India Radio was infamous for its censored, one-sided, selective coverage and so, for independent confirmation or first-hand information, BBC's World Service was the only reliable source, well within the reach of everybody using short-wave receivers. There is a story - may be quite true, may be apocryphal, and I guess, going back to the 1950s - which tells how a regular Calcuttawallah Englishman was taken aback while driving to the airport, when the cabbie suddenly made a detour, and instead of using the direct road on which the passenger had travelled a hundred times, drove his taxi through lanes and alleys. ''What's the matter'', he asked, ''do you think I am new to this city? This isn't the way to the airport.'' The cabbie calmly replied, ''No worries, sahib, I am not trying to cheat you.'' He pointed to a portable transistor radio in the glove compartment, and said, ''Just before you came in, I was listening to BBC news and it said just half an hour ago rioting broke out near 'Maidan'. I don't want to be caught up in that, so I am using this long-cut. I won't go that way again till the BBC tells me it's safe.'' --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

Gosh, lucky boy, all *we* had was notebooks in our days :-) God Bless... On 1 May 2010 12:06, Michael Ali <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Listers, > > The English service of Radio Ceylon was very, very popular with the > Anglo-Indian and Goan communities in Karachi. In fact, those of us who had > tape recorders ( usually Grundig spool-type) waited with baited breath for > any Jim Reeves song to come on air to press the 'Record' button. > > Warm regards, > > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >