LOL!....you mean the aluminium coins just blow away Chekkutty! Kind Regards Kerry

Still have some of the old holey 'dubs'...what a brilliant idea, but it does hide the coin! Kind Regards Kerry

Carol, Its Naia Paisa , Cheers. Ash. On 11/09/2012, at 5:36 PM, Carol&PT wrote: > That's lovely - a little bit like the traditional Dorset buttons we use to > get over in UK. > > I have a couple of hundred nayah pice coins (spelling, somebody?) which we > used to 'bet' with when playing mah-jong!! > > Carol T. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ainslie" <woodart@woodart.com.au> > To: <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:09 AM > Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] A use for holed annas > > >> Hi folks, >> >> Folks who like making unusual craft items may be interested in this >> interesting item with its links to old Indian currency. >> >> >> http://www.knittingdaily.com/blogs/traditions_today/archive/2012/09/04/a-holed-anna.aspx?a=kr120908 >> >> I'm taking it along to our church craft group tomorrow morning as an >> idea for purses to sell at our next fete. >> >> I noted a reader on the knitters' list said that hardware stores sell >> metal washers which could be used if the coins are no longer available! >> >> Cheers >> Ainslie. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These old coins are no longer in currency. Neither the nayah paisas. The minimum legal tender these days is 50 paise, even that is on its way out.

Hi folks, Folks who like making unusual craft items may be interested in this interesting item with its links to old Indian currency. http://www.knittingdaily.com/blogs/traditions_today/archive/2012/09/04/a-holed-anna.aspx?a=kr120908 I'm taking it along to our church craft group tomorrow morning as an idea for purses to sell at our next fete. I noted a reader on the knitters' list said that hardware stores sell metal washers which could be used if the coins are no longer available! Cheers Ainslie.

Some rather interesting stories today - so, instead of reading them individually on the List, here is a bunch of links to take you there for online enjoyment: ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar ---------------------------------- Daughters of the British Empire to meet http://www.pe.com/local-news/riverside-county/murrieta/murrieta-headlines-index/20120907-murrieta-daughters-of-the-british-empire-to-meet.ece Daughters of the British Empire (DBE) is a national nonprofit American society open to women of British or Commonwealth birth or ancestry and wives whose husbands are of British or Commonwealth heritage. They are organized into small chapters, and the local Queen Alexandra chapter covers southwest Riverside County, Cal. USA. Shawn Nelson, founder of Jacob's House, will be the speaker at the Sept. 16 meeting at 2 p.m. --------------------------------- Charles Tegart's India Connexion http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19019949 ----------------------------------- Indian family launch court action for return of Koh-i-Noor diamond http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9531629/Indian-family-launch-court-action-for-return-of-Koh-i-Noor-diamond.html and also - http://www.express.co.uk/features/view/345259 -----------------------------------------

Thanks Ashley!! Carol ________________________________ From: Ashley Raye <ashleyraye@bigpond.com> To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2012, 10:17 Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] A use for holed annas                                                                                       Carol, Its Naia Paisa , Cheers. Ash. On 11/09/2012, at 5:36 PM, Carol&PT wrote: > That's lovely - a little bit like the traditional Dorset buttons we use to > get over in UK. > > I have a couple of hundred nayah pice coins (spelling, somebody?) which we > used to 'bet' with when playing mah-jong!! > > Carol T. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ainslie" <woodart@woodart.com.au> > To: <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:09 AM > Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] A use for holed annas > > >> Hi folks, >> >> Folks who like making unusual craft items may be interested in this >> interesting item with its links to old Indian currency. >> >> >> http://www.knittingdaily.com/blogs/traditions_today/archive/2012/09/04/a-holed-anna.aspx?a=kr120908 >> >> I'm taking it along to our church craft group tomorrow morning as an >> idea for purses to sell at our next fete. >> >> I noted a reader on the knitters' list said that hardware stores sell >> metal washers which could be used if the coins are no longer available! >> >> Cheers >> Ainslie. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's lovely - a little bit like the traditional Dorset buttons we use to get over in UK. I have a couple of hundred nayah pice coins (spelling, somebody?) which we used to 'bet' with when playing mah-jong!! Carol T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ainslie" <woodart@woodart.com.au> To: <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] A use for holed annas > Hi folks, > > Folks who like making unusual craft items may be interested in this > interesting item with its links to old Indian currency. > > > http://www.knittingdaily.com/blogs/traditions_today/archive/2012/09/04/a-holed-anna.aspx?a=kr120908 > > I'm taking it along to our church craft group tomorrow morning as an > idea for purses to sell at our next fete. > > I noted a reader on the knitters' list said that hardware stores sell > metal washers which could be used if the coins are no longer available! > > Cheers > Ainslie. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

These coins are Pice...some had holes others without....Mike -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Raye <ashleyraye@bigpond.com> To: india-british-raj <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 11, 2012 3:20 pm Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] A use for holed annas Carol, Its Naia Paisa , Cheers. Ash. On 11/09/2012, at 5:36 PM, Carol&PT wrote: > That's lovely - a little bit like the traditional Dorset buttons we use to > get over in UK. > > I have a couple of hundred nayah pice coins (spelling, somebody?) which we > used to 'bet' with when playing mah-jong!! > > Carol T. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ainslie" <woodart@woodart.com.au> > To: <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:09 AM > Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] A use for holed annas > > >> Hi folks, >> >> Folks who like making unusual craft items may be interested in this >> interesting item with its links to old Indian currency. >> >> >> http://www.knittingdaily.com/blogs/traditions_today/archive/2012/09/04/a-holed-anna.aspx?a=kr120908 >> >> I'm taking it along to our church craft group tomorrow morning as an >> idea for purses to sell at our next fete. >> >> I noted a reader on the knitters' list said that hardware stores sell >> metal washers which could be used if the coins are no longer available! >> >> Cheers >> Ainslie. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great article, thanks, John. John > > > G'day > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: jack jacob <jfrjacob@gmail.com> >> Date: 10 September 2012 3:13:07 GMT+02:00 >> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; >> Subject: [vsdh] Fwd: anglo indians >> Reply-To: vsdh <vsdh@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com> >> >> >> >> -------HI ALL.... FORWARDED.. >> ......JFR JACOB-- >> >> >> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> >> Subject: This interesting for anybody from India! F >> >> History of the Anglo-Indians >> Almost a history of a bygone race - rather lovely -......our children >> are missing this rainbow of culture.... >> >> This was a speech given by a Senior Anglo Indian Army Veteran at a >> dinner dance in Sydney last year. >> >> Good Evening Ladies & Gentleman. Welcome to this special evening. I'm >> attempting to condense over 300 years of Anglo-Indian history in to 10 >> minutes. >> >> The British Empire once held absolute power in over 52 countries. About >> two-fifths of the world. But there was only one jewel in the crown - >> India. The first European settlers in India were the Portuguese in 1498 >> about 100 years before the British. The Dutch, French and the British >> followed. >> >> They were all here for the duration. The inevitable happened and a new >> mixed race community emerged. Even though the British came in peacefully >> as merchants and traders they soon colonized the sub-continent of India. >> But the British needed allies to protect the jewel in the crown and so >> began a deliberate policy encouraging British males to marry Indian >> women to create the first Anglo-Indians. >> >> The East India Company paid 15 silver rupees for each child born to an >> Indian mother and a European father, as family allowance. These children >> were amalgamated into the growing Anglo-Indian community, forming a >> defensive structure for the British Raj. This was a deliberate act of >> self preservation by the English. >> >> This unique hybrid individual was ethnically engineered by the occupying >> British so much so that the Anglo-Indians were the only micro-minority >> community ever defined in a Constitution. Article-366 of the Indian >> Constitution states. An Anglo-Indian means a person whose father or any >> of whose male ancestors in the male line is or was of European descent >> but who is domiciled within the territory of India and is or was born >> within such territory of parents habitually resident there-in and not >> established there for temporary purposes only. >> >> So you can see we were intended to be a permanent micro-minority. In >> 1830 British Parliament described the Anglo-Indian as those who have >> been English educated, are entirely European in their habits and >> feelings, dress and language. They were more "Anglo" than "Indian". >> Their mother-tongue was English, they were Catholic or Anglican and >> their customs and traditions were English. While most of them married >> within their own circle, many continued to marry expatriate Englishmen. >> Very few married Indians. >> >> Without Anglo-Indian support British rule would have collapsed. >> >> RAILWAYS >> We ran the railways, post and telegraph, police and customs, education, >> export and import, shipping, tea, coffee and tobacco plantations, the >> coal and gold fields. We became teachers, nurses, priests and doctors. >> If it had any value the British made sure we ran it. And when it came to >> secretarial duties no one could touch our Anglo-Indian girls - the best >> stenographers in the world and with beauty to match. >> >> Were we favored? Yes, the English trusted us. After all we were blood >> related. We worked hard. We became indispensable. We lived comfortably >> and were protected by the British raj. Like the British we had servants >> to do all our domestic work. The average Anglo-Indian home could afford >> at least three full time servants - a cook, a bearer and the >> indispensable nanny (ayah). Part time servants included a gardener, >> cleaner and laundry man (dhobi). Of course we learned to speak Hindi to >> be able to argue, give orders, bargain, accuse and terminate employment >> and throw in a dozen Hindi expletives. >> >> Imagine our horror when we were later to migrate to England, Canada and >> Australia and we no longer had servants to do our domestic chores. Who >> can remember looking at our first toilet brush and asking 'what do we do >> with this?' We had to learn to cook, clean, garden, do the laundry and >> take the garbage out and look after the kids. >> >> CHRISTMAS CAKE >> The tradition of making your own Christmas cake was a sacred >> Anglo-Indian custom. Each family had a secret cake recipe, handed down >> from our grandparents. About a week before Christmas the local baker was >> contacted. He would turn up to your home with two very large terracotta >> bowls that looked more like satellite dishes. One for the egg whites and >> one for mixing. Mum would dish out the ingredients. This was all mixed >> together under her watchful eye and distributed in to about dozen or so >> cake tins and labeled with your name on it. This labeling was all >> important. We did not want him to return that evening with someone >> else's cake recipe. Heaven forbid. >> >> MUSIC/DANCE >> Music, movies and socializing were high on the agenda. We loved a dance. >> Afternoon dance jam sessions were a magnet for the teenagers where we >> jived, jitterbugged, tango'd or just fox trotted. >> >> Many a lasting liaison was forged on the dance floor and today many of >> us are celebrating 40-year plus marriages. Our mums sat around gossiping >> and seldom took their eyes off their darling daughters. I know I speak >> from experience. I met my wife at one such event and now 44 years later >> I still fancy her. >> >> The Anglo-Indian railway and cantonment towns that sprung up around the >> major cities cultivated a unique social and industrial blend with a >> heartbeat. Their dances were legendary. At the drop of a hat the city >> cousins would jump on a train and travel for anything up to six hours to >> get to that up-country dance. >> >> Many of our lives revolved around the biggest and best railway system in >> the world. And the trains ran on time! >> >> Today the Indian Railways transports over 5 billion passengers each year >> employing more than 1.6 million personnel. Between 1853 and 1947 we >> built and managed 42 rail systems. This was a legacy we can be proud of. >> >> CONTRIBUTIONS >> During World War 1 about 8000 Anglo-Indians fought in Mesopotamia, East >> Africa, and in the European theatre - Eleven Anglo-Indians were awarded >> Victoria Crosses. >> >> In World War II they fought at Dunkirk and flew in the battle of Britain >> - Guy Gibson of the Dam Busters was one such Anglo-Indian, and we were >> in North Africa, Malaya and the fall of Singapore. >> >> Merle Oberon and Juliet Prowse, Tony Brent, Engelbert Humperdinck, Cliff >> Richards are all Anglo-Indians >> >> The Anglo-Indians took India to Olympic hockey glory. From 1928 India >> won five consecutive Olympic hockey gold medals. In fact, when India >> faced Australia in the semi-finals of the 1960 Olympics in Rome, it was >> a unique occasion. The captains who came face to face were both >> Anglo-Indians, Leslie Claudius and Kevin Carton. >> >> EDUCATION >> English education played a major role amongst the Anglo-Indians. >> Anglo-Indian schools numbered close to 300 and were prized. They >> stretched from Bangalore in the south to the cooler northern hill >> stations of Darjeeling in the foothills of the Himalayas. Each was >> modeled on the posh English Public school system. We ran them as >> teachers and principals and to this day these schools are coveted across >> the sub-continent. >> >> IDENTITY DILEMMA >> The Anglo-Indian has always faced an identity dilemma because of our >> mixed origins. Europeans said they were Indians with some European >> blood; Indians said they were Europeans with some Indian blood. The >> world of Anglo-India vanished on August 15th 1947, when India became the >> largest independent democracy in the world. >> >> The British packed and went home. >> >> Over 300,000 Anglo-Indians remained. We felt apprehensive and abandoned. >> So we too packed our bags and began to migrate to Australia, Britain, >> Canada, the U.S.A. and New Zealand. ! Many of you will remember the >> dreaded Income Tax Clearance document you need to leave the country and >> further faced the strict Indian foreign exchange regulations that >> allowed you only 10 pounds each. Imagine starting life in a new country >> with 10 quid in your pocket. Some had to leave behind their savings; >> others simply resorted to the risky black market losing a 30% of your >> savings. >> >> IDENTITY >> The Anglo-Indian identity is disappearing. We have found new lives and >> merged into the mainstream. Our generation, sitting here tonight, who >> were born in India, growing up in the 40s thru to 60s, are possibly the >> last true Anglo-Indians. >> >> Look around you. Where is the next generation? Most of our children were >> born abroad and their connection to Anglo-India is very fragile. They >> have married Aussies, English, Canadian or other Anglo-Indians born >> outside India. They prefer to be regarded as English, Australian or >> Canadian. Our grandchildren will assimilate and forge a new identity >> based on their country of birth. >> >> Putting aside history I believe we could regard ourselves as an exotic >> cocktail that had its origins over 300 years ago. We have matured and >> become a unique aromatic spirit, generously flavored and very >> stimulating. >> >> We were a force to be reckoned with. >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this email List, send an email to: >> vsdh-unsubscribe@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com >> _______________________________________________ >> vsdh mailing list >> %(www.vsdh.org) >> vsdh@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Actually, Guy Gibson wasn't an Anglo-Indian, ie., someone who was born of an English-Indian parentage/ lineage. However, Patrick and Tony Woods-Scawen, fighter pilots during the Battle of Britain, from Madras, may have had Anglo-Indian blood. Who are these eight VC winners who were Anglo-Indians? Cheers Mukund On 10 September 2012 13:20, John Feltham <wantok@me.com> wrote: > > > G'day > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: jack jacob <jfrjacob@gmail.com> > > Date: 10 September 2012 3:13:07 GMT+02:00 > > To: undisclosed-recipients: ; > > Subject: [vsdh] Fwd: anglo indians > > Reply-To: vsdh <vsdh@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com> > > > > > > > > -------HI ALL.... FORWARDED.. > > ......JFR JACOB-- > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > > > Subject: This interesting for anybody from India! F > > > > History of the Anglo-Indians > > Almost a history of a bygone race - rather lovely -......our children > are missing this rainbow of culture.... > > > > This was a speech given by a Senior Anglo Indian Army Veteran at a > dinner dance in Sydney last year. > > > > Good Evening Ladies & Gentleman. Welcome to this special evening. I'm > attempting to condense over 300 years of Anglo-Indian history in to 10 > minutes. > > > > The British Empire once held absolute power in over 52 countries. About > two-fifths of the world. But there was only one jewel in the crown - India. > The first European settlers in India were the Portuguese in 1498 about 100 > years before the British. The Dutch, French and the British followed. > > > > They were all here for the duration. The inevitable happened and a new > mixed race community emerged. Even though the British came in peacefully as > merchants and traders they soon colonized the sub-continent of India. But > the British needed allies to protect the jewel in the crown and so began a > deliberate policy encouraging British males to marry Indian women to create > the first Anglo-Indians. > > > > The East India Company paid 15 silver rupees for each child born to an > Indian mother and a European father, as family allowance. These children > were amalgamated into the growing Anglo-Indian community, forming a > defensive structure for the British Raj. This was a deliberate act of self > preservation by the English. > > > > This unique hybrid individual was ethnically engineered by the occupying > British so much so that the Anglo-Indians were the only micro-minority > community ever defined in a Constitution. Article-366 of the Indian > Constitution states. An Anglo-Indian means a person whose father or any of > whose male ancestors in the male line is or was of European descent but who > is domiciled within the territory of India and is or was born within such > territory of parents habitually resident there-in and not established there > for temporary purposes only. > > > > So you can see we were intended to be a permanent micro-minority. In > 1830 British Parliament described the Anglo-Indian as those who have been > English educated, are entirely European in their habits and feelings, dress > and language. They were more "Anglo" than "Indian". Their mother-tongue was > English, they were Catholic or Anglican and their customs and traditions > were English. While most of them married within their own circle, many > continued to marry expatriate Englishmen. Very few married Indians. > > > > Without Anglo-Indian support British rule would have collapsed. > > > > RAILWAYS > > We ran the railways, post and telegraph, police and customs, education, > export and import, shipping, tea, coffee and tobacco plantations, the coal > and gold fields. We became teachers, nurses, priests and doctors. If it had > any value the British made sure we ran it. And when it came to secretarial > duties no one could touch our Anglo-Indian girls - the best stenographers > in the world and with beauty to match. > > > > Were we favored? Yes, the English trusted us. After all we were blood > related. We worked hard. We became indispensable. We lived comfortably and > were protected by the British raj. Like the British we had servants to do > all our domestic work. The average Anglo-Indian home could afford at least > three full time servants - a cook, a bearer and the indispensable nanny > (ayah). Part time servants included a gardener, cleaner and laundry man > (dhobi). Of course we learned to speak Hindi to be able to argue, give > orders, bargain, accuse and terminate employment and throw in a dozen Hindi > expletives. > > > > Imagine our horror when we were later to migrate to England, Canada and > Australia and we no longer had servants to do our domestic chores. Who can > remember looking at our first toilet brush and asking 'what do we do with > this?' We had to learn to cook, clean, garden, do the laundry and take the > garbage out and look after the kids. > > > > CHRISTMAS CAKE > > The tradition of making your own Christmas cake was a sacred > Anglo-Indian custom. Each family had a secret cake recipe, handed down from > our grandparents. About a week before Christmas the local baker was > contacted. He would turn up to your home with two very large terracotta > bowls that looked more like satellite dishes. One for the egg whites and > one for mixing. Mum would dish out the ingredients. This was all mixed > together under her watchful eye and distributed in to about dozen or so > cake tins and labeled with your name on it. This labeling was all > important. We did not want him to return that evening with someone else's > cake recipe. Heaven forbid. > > > > MUSIC/DANCE > > Music, movies and socializing were high on the agenda. We loved a dance. > Afternoon dance jam sessions were a magnet for the teenagers where we > jived, jitterbugged, tango'd or just fox trotted. > > > > Many a lasting liaison was forged on the dance floor and today many of > us are celebrating 40-year plus marriages. Our mums sat around gossiping > and seldom took their eyes off their darling daughters. I know I speak from > experience. I met my wife at one such event and now 44 years later I still > fancy her. > > > > The Anglo-Indian railway and cantonment towns that sprung up around the > major cities cultivated a unique social and industrial blend with a > heartbeat. Their dances were legendary. At the drop of a hat the city > cousins would jump on a train and travel for anything up to six hours to > get to that up-country dance. > > > > Many of our lives revolved around the biggest and best railway system in > the world. And the trains ran on time! > > > > Today the Indian Railways transports over 5 billion passengers each year > employing more than 1.6 million personnel. Between 1853 and 1947 we built > and managed 42 rail systems. This was a legacy we can be proud of. > > > > CONTRIBUTIONS > > During World War 1 about 8000 Anglo-Indians fought in Mesopotamia, East > Africa, and in the European theatre - Eleven Anglo-Indians were awarded > Victoria Crosses. > > > > In World War II they fought at Dunkirk and flew in the battle of Britain > - Guy Gibson of the Dam Busters was one such Anglo-Indian, and we were in > North Africa, Malaya and the fall of Singapore. > > > > Merle Oberon and Juliet Prowse, Tony Brent, Engelbert Humperdinck, Cliff > Richards are all Anglo-Indians > > > > The Anglo-Indians took India to Olympic hockey glory. From 1928 India > won five consecutive Olympic hockey gold medals. In fact, when India faced > Australia in the semi-finals of the 1960 Olympics in Rome, it was a unique > occasion. The captains who came face to face were both Anglo-Indians, > Leslie Claudius and Kevin Carton. > > > > EDUCATION > > English education played a major role amongst the Anglo-Indians. > Anglo-Indian schools numbered close to 300 and were prized. They stretched > from Bangalore in the south to the cooler northern hill stations of > Darjeeling in the foothills of the Himalayas. Each was modeled on the posh > English Public school system. We ran them as teachers and principals and to > this day these schools are coveted across the sub-continent. > > > > IDENTITY DILEMMA > > The Anglo-Indian has always faced an identity dilemma because of our > mixed origins. Europeans said they were Indians with some European blood; > Indians said they were Europeans with some Indian blood. The world of > Anglo-India vanished on August 15th 1947, when India became the largest > independent democracy in the world. > > > > The British packed and went home. > > > > Over 300,000 Anglo-Indians remained. We felt apprehensive and abandoned. > So we too packed our bags and began to migrate to Australia, Britain, > Canada, the U.S.A. and New Zealand. ! Many of you will remember the dreaded > Income Tax Clearance document you need to leave the country and further > faced the strict Indian foreign exchange regulations that allowed you only > 10 pounds each. Imagine starting life in a new country with 10 quid in your > pocket. Some had to leave behind their savings; others simply resorted to > the risky black market losing a 30% of your savings. > > > > IDENTITY > > The Anglo-Indian identity is disappearing. We have found new lives and > merged into the mainstream. Our generation, sitting here tonight, who were > born in India, growing up in the 40s thru to 60s, are possibly the last > true Anglo-Indians. > > > > Look around you. Where is the next generation? Most of our children were > born abroad and their connection to Anglo-India is very fragile. They have > married Aussies, English, Canadian or other Anglo-Indians born outside > India. They prefer to be regarded as English, Australian or Canadian. Our > grandchildren will assimilate and forge a new identity based on their > country of birth. > > > > Putting aside history I believe we could regard ourselves as an exotic > cocktail that had its origins over 300 years ago. We have matured and > become a unique aromatic spirit, generously flavored and very stimulating. > > > > We were a force to be reckoned with. > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this email List, send an email to: > > vsdh-unsubscribe@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com > > _______________________________________________ > > vsdh mailing list > > %(www.vsdh.org) > > vsdh@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://thirdcoastdigest.com/2012/09/tcd-traveler-darjeeling-steeped-in-quiet-beauty/ G'day folks, A nice write up with two glaring errors. The first one is "tea fields", the other is to do with the Z zigzags on the DHR. ooroo

I loved this article - Thanks for sharing, Sandra -----Original Message----- From: india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Feltham Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 3:50 AM To: Raj Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Anglo-Indians G'day Begin forwarded message: > From: jack jacob <jfrjacob@gmail.com> > Date: 10 September 2012 3:13:07 GMT+02:00 > To: undisclosed-recipients: ; > Subject: [vsdh] Fwd: anglo indians > Reply-To: vsdh <vsdh@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com> > > > > -------HI ALL.... FORWARDED.. > ......JFR JACOB-- > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > Subject: This interesting for anybody from India! F > > History of the Anglo-Indians > Almost a history of a bygone race - rather lovely -......our children are missing this rainbow of culture.... > > This was a speech given by a Senior Anglo Indian Army Veteran at a dinner dance in Sydney last year. > > Good Evening Ladies & Gentleman. Welcome to this special evening. I'm attempting to condense over 300 years of Anglo-Indian history in to 10 minutes. > > The British Empire once held absolute power in over 52 countries. About two-fifths of the world. But there was only one jewel in the crown - India. The first European settlers in India were the Portuguese in 1498 about 100 years before the British. The Dutch, French and the British followed. > > They were all here for the duration. The inevitable happened and a new mixed race community emerged. Even though the British came in peacefully as merchants and traders they soon colonized the sub-continent of India. But the British needed allies to protect the jewel in the crown and so began a deliberate policy encouraging British males to marry Indian women to create the first Anglo-Indians. > > The East India Company paid 15 silver rupees for each child born to an Indian mother and a European father, as family allowance. These children were amalgamated into the growing Anglo-Indian community, forming a defensive structure for the British Raj. This was a deliberate act of self preservation by the English. > > This unique hybrid individual was ethnically engineered by the occupying British so much so that the Anglo-Indians were the only micro-minority community ever defined in a Constitution. Article-366 of the Indian Constitution states. An Anglo-Indian means a person whose father or any of whose male ancestors in the male line is or was of European descent but who is domiciled within the territory of India and is or was born within such territory of parents habitually resident there-in and not established there for temporary purposes only. > > So you can see we were intended to be a permanent micro-minority. In 1830 British Parliament described the Anglo-Indian as those who have been English educated, are entirely European in their habits and feelings, dress and language. They were more "Anglo" than "Indian". Their mother-tongue was English, they were Catholic or Anglican and their customs and traditions were English. While most of them married within their own circle, many continued to marry expatriate Englishmen. Very few married Indians. > > Without Anglo-Indian support British rule would have collapsed. > > RAILWAYS > We ran the railways, post and telegraph, police and customs, education, export and import, shipping, tea, coffee and tobacco plantations, the coal and gold fields. We became teachers, nurses, priests and doctors. If it had any value the British made sure we ran it. And when it came to secretarial duties no one could touch our Anglo-Indian girls - the best stenographers in the world and with beauty to match. > > Were we favored? Yes, the English trusted us. After all we were blood related. We worked hard. We became indispensable. We lived comfortably and were protected by the British raj. Like the British we had servants to do all our domestic work. The average Anglo-Indian home could afford at least three full time servants - a cook, a bearer and the indispensable nanny (ayah). Part time servants included a gardener, cleaner and laundry man (dhobi). Of course we learned to speak Hindi to be able to argue, give orders, bargain, accuse and terminate employment and throw in a dozen Hindi expletives. > > Imagine our horror when we were later to migrate to England, Canada and Australia and we no longer had servants to do our domestic chores. Who can remember looking at our first toilet brush and asking 'what do we do with this?' We had to learn to cook, clean, garden, do the laundry and take the garbage out and look after the kids. > > CHRISTMAS CAKE > The tradition of making your own Christmas cake was a sacred Anglo-Indian custom. Each family had a secret cake recipe, handed down from our grandparents. About a week before Christmas the local baker was contacted. He would turn up to your home with two very large terracotta bowls that looked more like satellite dishes. One for the egg whites and one for mixing. Mum would dish out the ingredients. This was all mixed together under her watchful eye and distributed in to about dozen or so cake tins and labeled with your name on it. This labeling was all important. We did not want him to return that evening with someone else's cake recipe. Heaven forbid. > > MUSIC/DANCE > Music, movies and socializing were high on the agenda. We loved a dance. Afternoon dance jam sessions were a magnet for the teenagers where we jived, jitterbugged, tango'd or just fox trotted. > > Many a lasting liaison was forged on the dance floor and today many of us are celebrating 40-year plus marriages. Our mums sat around gossiping and seldom took their eyes off their darling daughters. I know I speak from experience. I met my wife at one such event and now 44 years later I still fancy her. > > The Anglo-Indian railway and cantonment towns that sprung up around the major cities cultivated a unique social and industrial blend with a heartbeat. Their dances were legendary. At the drop of a hat the city cousins would jump on a train and travel for anything up to six hours to get to that up-country dance. > > Many of our lives revolved around the biggest and best railway system in the world. And the trains ran on time! > > Today the Indian Railways transports over 5 billion passengers each year employing more than 1.6 million personnel. Between 1853 and 1947 we built and managed 42 rail systems. This was a legacy we can be proud of. > > CONTRIBUTIONS > During World War 1 about 8000 Anglo-Indians fought in Mesopotamia, East Africa, and in the European theatre - Eleven Anglo-Indians were awarded Victoria Crosses. > > In World War II they fought at Dunkirk and flew in the battle of Britain - Guy Gibson of the Dam Busters was one such Anglo-Indian, and we were in North Africa, Malaya and the fall of Singapore. > > Merle Oberon and Juliet Prowse, Tony Brent, Engelbert Humperdinck, > Cliff Richards are all Anglo-Indians > > The Anglo-Indians took India to Olympic hockey glory. From 1928 India won five consecutive Olympic hockey gold medals. In fact, when India faced Australia in the semi-finals of the 1960 Olympics in Rome, it was a unique occasion. The captains who came face to face were both Anglo-Indians, Leslie Claudius and Kevin Carton. > > EDUCATION > English education played a major role amongst the Anglo-Indians. Anglo-Indian schools numbered close to 300 and were prized. They stretched from Bangalore in the south to the cooler northern hill stations of Darjeeling in the foothills of the Himalayas. Each was modeled on the posh English Public school system. We ran them as teachers and principals and to this day these schools are coveted across the sub-continent. > > IDENTITY DILEMMA > The Anglo-Indian has always faced an identity dilemma because of our mixed origins. Europeans said they were Indians with some European blood; Indians said they were Europeans with some Indian blood. The world of Anglo-India vanished on August 15th 1947, when India became the largest independent democracy in the world. > > The British packed and went home. > > Over 300,000 Anglo-Indians remained. We felt apprehensive and abandoned. So we too packed our bags and began to migrate to Australia, Britain, Canada, the U.S.A. and New Zealand. ! Many of you will remember the dreaded Income Tax Clearance document you need to leave the country and further faced the strict Indian foreign exchange regulations that allowed you only 10 pounds each. Imagine starting life in a new country with 10 quid in your pocket. Some had to leave behind their savings; others simply resorted to the risky black market losing a 30% of your savings. > > IDENTITY > The Anglo-Indian identity is disappearing. We have found new lives and merged into the mainstream. Our generation, sitting here tonight, who were born in India, growing up in the 40s thru to 60s, are possibly the last true Anglo-Indians. > > Look around you. Where is the next generation? Most of our children were born abroad and their connection to Anglo-India is very fragile. They have married Aussies, English, Canadian or other Anglo-Indians born outside India. They prefer to be regarded as English, Australian or Canadian. Our grandchildren will assimilate and forge a new identity based on their country of birth. > > Putting aside history I believe we could regard ourselves as an exotic cocktail that had its origins over 300 years ago. We have matured and become a unique aromatic spirit, generously flavored and very stimulating. > > We were a force to be reckoned with. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this email List, send an email to: > vsdh-unsubscribe@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com > _______________________________________________ > vsdh mailing list > %(www.vsdh.org) > vsdh@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G'day Begin forwarded message: > From: jack jacob <jfrjacob@gmail.com> > Date: 10 September 2012 3:13:07 GMT+02:00 > To: undisclosed-recipients: ; > Subject: [vsdh] Fwd: anglo indians > Reply-To: vsdh <vsdh@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com> > > > > -------HI ALL.... FORWARDED.. > ......JFR JACOB-- > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > Subject: This interesting for anybody from India! F > > History of the Anglo-Indians > Almost a history of a bygone race - rather lovely -......our children are missing this rainbow of culture.... > > This was a speech given by a Senior Anglo Indian Army Veteran at a dinner dance in Sydney last year. > > Good Evening Ladies & Gentleman. Welcome to this special evening. I'm attempting to condense over 300 years of Anglo-Indian history in to 10 minutes. > > The British Empire once held absolute power in over 52 countries. About two-fifths of the world. But there was only one jewel in the crown - India. The first European settlers in India were the Portuguese in 1498 about 100 years before the British. The Dutch, French and the British followed. > > They were all here for the duration. The inevitable happened and a new mixed race community emerged. Even though the British came in peacefully as merchants and traders they soon colonized the sub-continent of India. But the British needed allies to protect the jewel in the crown and so began a deliberate policy encouraging British males to marry Indian women to create the first Anglo-Indians. > > The East India Company paid 15 silver rupees for each child born to an Indian mother and a European father, as family allowance. These children were amalgamated into the growing Anglo-Indian community, forming a defensive structure for the British Raj. This was a deliberate act of self preservation by the English. > > This unique hybrid individual was ethnically engineered by the occupying British so much so that the Anglo-Indians were the only micro-minority community ever defined in a Constitution. Article-366 of the Indian Constitution states. An Anglo-Indian means a person whose father or any of whose male ancestors in the male line is or was of European descent but who is domiciled within the territory of India and is or was born within such territory of parents habitually resident there-in and not established there for temporary purposes only. > > So you can see we were intended to be a permanent micro-minority. In 1830 British Parliament described the Anglo-Indian as those who have been English educated, are entirely European in their habits and feelings, dress and language. They were more "Anglo" than "Indian". Their mother-tongue was English, they were Catholic or Anglican and their customs and traditions were English. While most of them married within their own circle, many continued to marry expatriate Englishmen. Very few married Indians. > > Without Anglo-Indian support British rule would have collapsed. > > RAILWAYS > We ran the railways, post and telegraph, police and customs, education, export and import, shipping, tea, coffee and tobacco plantations, the coal and gold fields. We became teachers, nurses, priests and doctors. If it had any value the British made sure we ran it. And when it came to secretarial duties no one could touch our Anglo-Indian girls - the best stenographers in the world and with beauty to match. > > Were we favored? Yes, the English trusted us. After all we were blood related. We worked hard. We became indispensable. We lived comfortably and were protected by the British raj. Like the British we had servants to do all our domestic work. The average Anglo-Indian home could afford at least three full time servants - a cook, a bearer and the indispensable nanny (ayah). Part time servants included a gardener, cleaner and laundry man (dhobi). Of course we learned to speak Hindi to be able to argue, give orders, bargain, accuse and terminate employment and throw in a dozen Hindi expletives. > > Imagine our horror when we were later to migrate to England, Canada and Australia and we no longer had servants to do our domestic chores. Who can remember looking at our first toilet brush and asking 'what do we do with this?' We had to learn to cook, clean, garden, do the laundry and take the garbage out and look after the kids. > > CHRISTMAS CAKE > The tradition of making your own Christmas cake was a sacred Anglo-Indian custom. Each family had a secret cake recipe, handed down from our grandparents. About a week before Christmas the local baker was contacted. He would turn up to your home with two very large terracotta bowls that looked more like satellite dishes. One for the egg whites and one for mixing. Mum would dish out the ingredients. This was all mixed together under her watchful eye and distributed in to about dozen or so cake tins and labeled with your name on it. This labeling was all important. We did not want him to return that evening with someone else's cake recipe. Heaven forbid. > > MUSIC/DANCE > Music, movies and socializing were high on the agenda. We loved a dance. Afternoon dance jam sessions were a magnet for the teenagers where we jived, jitterbugged, tango'd or just fox trotted. > > Many a lasting liaison was forged on the dance floor and today many of us are celebrating 40-year plus marriages. Our mums sat around gossiping and seldom took their eyes off their darling daughters. I know I speak from experience. I met my wife at one such event and now 44 years later I still fancy her. > > The Anglo-Indian railway and cantonment towns that sprung up around the major cities cultivated a unique social and industrial blend with a heartbeat. Their dances were legendary. At the drop of a hat the city cousins would jump on a train and travel for anything up to six hours to get to that up-country dance. > > Many of our lives revolved around the biggest and best railway system in the world. And the trains ran on time! > > Today the Indian Railways transports over 5 billion passengers each year employing more than 1.6 million personnel. Between 1853 and 1947 we built and managed 42 rail systems. This was a legacy we can be proud of. > > CONTRIBUTIONS > During World War 1 about 8000 Anglo-Indians fought in Mesopotamia, East Africa, and in the European theatre - Eleven Anglo-Indians were awarded Victoria Crosses. > > In World War II they fought at Dunkirk and flew in the battle of Britain - Guy Gibson of the Dam Busters was one such Anglo-Indian, and we were in North Africa, Malaya and the fall of Singapore. > > Merle Oberon and Juliet Prowse, Tony Brent, Engelbert Humperdinck, Cliff Richards are all Anglo-Indians > > The Anglo-Indians took India to Olympic hockey glory. From 1928 India won five consecutive Olympic hockey gold medals. In fact, when India faced Australia in the semi-finals of the 1960 Olympics in Rome, it was a unique occasion. The captains who came face to face were both Anglo-Indians, Leslie Claudius and Kevin Carton. > > EDUCATION > English education played a major role amongst the Anglo-Indians. Anglo-Indian schools numbered close to 300 and were prized. They stretched from Bangalore in the south to the cooler northern hill stations of Darjeeling in the foothills of the Himalayas. Each was modeled on the posh English Public school system. We ran them as teachers and principals and to this day these schools are coveted across the sub-continent. > > IDENTITY DILEMMA > The Anglo-Indian has always faced an identity dilemma because of our mixed origins. Europeans said they were Indians with some European blood; Indians said they were Europeans with some Indian blood. The world of Anglo-India vanished on August 15th 1947, when India became the largest independent democracy in the world. > > The British packed and went home. > > Over 300,000 Anglo-Indians remained. We felt apprehensive and abandoned. So we too packed our bags and began to migrate to Australia, Britain, Canada, the U.S.A. and New Zealand. ! Many of you will remember the dreaded Income Tax Clearance document you need to leave the country and further faced the strict Indian foreign exchange regulations that allowed you only 10 pounds each. Imagine starting life in a new country with 10 quid in your pocket. Some had to leave behind their savings; others simply resorted to the risky black market losing a 30% of your savings. > > IDENTITY > The Anglo-Indian identity is disappearing. We have found new lives and merged into the mainstream. Our generation, sitting here tonight, who were born in India, growing up in the 40s thru to 60s, are possibly the last true Anglo-Indians. > > Look around you. Where is the next generation? Most of our children were born abroad and their connection to Anglo-India is very fragile. They have married Aussies, English, Canadian or other Anglo-Indians born outside India. They prefer to be regarded as English, Australian or Canadian. Our grandchildren will assimilate and forge a new identity based on their country of birth. > > Putting aside history I believe we could regard ourselves as an exotic cocktail that had its origins over 300 years ago. We have matured and become a unique aromatic spirit, generously flavored and very stimulating. > > We were a force to be reckoned with. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this email List, send an email to: > vsdh-unsubscribe@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com > _______________________________________________ > vsdh mailing list > %(www.vsdh.org) > vsdh@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com

Thanks, John. -----Original Message----- From: badhamgj <badhamgj@actrix.co.nz> To: india-british-raj <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> Cc: Raj <india-british-raj-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 10, 2012 1:45 pm Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Anglo-Indians Great article, thanks, John. John > > > G'day > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: jack jacob <jfrjacob@gmail.com> >> Date: 10 September 2012 3:13:07 GMT+02:00 >> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; >> Subject: [vsdh] Fwd: anglo indians >> Reply-To: vsdh <vsdh@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com> >> >> >> >> -------HI ALL.... FORWARDED.. >> ......JFR JACOB-- >> >> >> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> >> Subject: This interesting for anybody from India! F >> >> History of the Anglo-Indians >> Almost a history of a bygone race - rather lovely -......our children >> are missing this rainbow of culture.... >> >> This was a speech given by a Senior Anglo Indian Army Veteran at a >> dinner dance in Sydney last year. >> >> Good Evening Ladies & Gentleman. Welcome to this special evening. I'm >> attempting to condense over 300 years of Anglo-Indian history in to 10 >> minutes. >> >> The British Empire once held absolute power in over 52 countries. About >> two-fifths of the world. But there was only one jewel in the crown - >> India. The first European settlers in India were the Portuguese in 1498 >> about 100 years before the British. The Dutch, French and the British >> followed. >> >> They were all here for the duration. The inevitable happened and a new >> mixed race community emerged. Even though the British came in peacefully >> as merchants and traders they soon colonized the sub-continent of India. >> But the British needed allies to protect the jewel in the crown and so >> began a deliberate policy encouraging British males to marry Indian >> women to create the first Anglo-Indians. >> >> The East India Company paid 15 silver rupees for each child born to an >> Indian mother and a European father, as family allowance. These children >> were amalgamated into the growing Anglo-Indian community, forming a >> defensive structure for the British Raj. This was a deliberate act of >> self preservation by the English. >> >> This unique hybrid individual was ethnically engineered by the occupying >> British so much so that the Anglo-Indians were the only micro-minority >> community ever defined in a Constitution. Article-366 of the Indian >> Constitution states. An Anglo-Indian means a person whose father or any >> of whose male ancestors in the male line is or was of European descent >> but who is domiciled within the territory of India and is or was born >> within such territory of parents habitually resident there-in and not >> established there for temporary purposes only. >> >> So you can see we were intended to be a permanent micro-minority. In >> 1830 British Parliament described the Anglo-Indian as those who have >> been English educated, are entirely European in their habits and >> feelings, dress and language. They were more "Anglo" than "Indian". >> Their mother-tongue was English, they were Catholic or Anglican and >> their customs and traditions were English. While most of them married >> within their own circle, many continued to marry expatriate Englishmen. >> Very few married Indians. >> >> Without Anglo-Indian support British rule would have collapsed. >> >> RAILWAYS >> We ran the railways, post and telegraph, police and customs, education, >> export and import, shipping, tea, coffee and tobacco plantations, the >> coal and gold fields. We became teachers, nurses, priests and doctors. >> If it had any value the British made sure we ran it. And when it came to >> secretarial duties no one could touch our Anglo-Indian girls - the best >> stenographers in the world and with beauty to match. >> >> Were we favored? Yes, the English trusted us. After all we were blood >> related. We worked hard. We became indispensable. We lived comfortably >> and were protected by the British raj. Like the British we had servants >> to do all our domestic work. The average Anglo-Indian home could afford >> at least three full time servants - a cook, a bearer and the >> indispensable nanny (ayah). Part time servants included a gardener, >> cleaner and laundry man (dhobi). Of course we learned to speak Hindi to >> be able to argue, give orders, bargain, accuse and terminate employment >> and throw in a dozen Hindi expletives. >> >> Imagine our horror when we were later to migrate to England, Canada and >> Australia and we no longer had servants to do our domestic chores. Who >> can remember looking at our first toilet brush and asking 'what do we do >> with this?' We had to learn to cook, clean, garden, do the laundry and >> take the garbage out and look after the kids. >> >> CHRISTMAS CAKE >> The tradition of making your own Christmas cake was a sacred >> Anglo-Indian custom. Each family had a secret cake recipe, handed down >> from our grandparents. About a week before Christmas the local baker was >> contacted. He would turn up to your home with two very large terracotta >> bowls that looked more like satellite dishes. One for the egg whites and >> one for mixing. Mum would dish out the ingredients. This was all mixed >> together under her watchful eye and distributed in to about dozen or so >> cake tins and labeled with your name on it. This labeling was all >> important. We did not want him to return that evening with someone >> else's cake recipe. Heaven forbid. >> >> MUSIC/DANCE >> Music, movies and socializing were high on the agenda. We loved a dance. >> Afternoon dance jam sessions were a magnet for the teenagers where we >> jived, jitterbugged, tango'd or just fox trotted. >> >> Many a lasting liaison was forged on the dance floor and today many of >> us are celebrating 40-year plus marriages. Our mums sat around gossiping >> and seldom took their eyes off their darling daughters. I know I speak >> from experience. I met my wife at one such event and now 44 years later >> I still fancy her. >> >> The Anglo-Indian railway and cantonment towns that sprung up around the >> major cities cultivated a unique social and industrial blend with a >> heartbeat. Their dances were legendary. At the drop of a hat the city >> cousins would jump on a train and travel for anything up to six hours to >> get to that up-country dance. >> >> Many of our lives revolved around the biggest and best railway system in >> the world. And the trains ran on time! >> >> Today the Indian Railways transports over 5 billion passengers each year >> employing more than 1.6 million personnel. Between 1853 and 1947 we >> built and managed 42 rail systems. This was a legacy we can be proud of. >> >> CONTRIBUTIONS >> During World War 1 about 8000 Anglo-Indians fought in Mesopotamia, East >> Africa, and in the European theatre - Eleven Anglo-Indians were awarded >> Victoria Crosses. >> >> In World War II they fought at Dunkirk and flew in the battle of Britain >> - Guy Gibson of the Dam Busters was one such Anglo-Indian, and we were >> in North Africa, Malaya and the fall of Singapore. >> >> Merle Oberon and Juliet Prowse, Tony Brent, Engelbert Humperdinck, Cliff >> Richards are all Anglo-Indians >> >> The Anglo-Indians took India to Olympic hockey glory. From 1928 India >> won five consecutive Olympic hockey gold medals. In fact, when India >> faced Australia in the semi-finals of the 1960 Olympics in Rome, it was >> a unique occasion. The captains who came face to face were both >> Anglo-Indians, Leslie Claudius and Kevin Carton. >> >> EDUCATION >> English education played a major role amongst the Anglo-Indians. >> Anglo-Indian schools numbered close to 300 and were prized. They >> stretched from Bangalore in the south to the cooler northern hill >> stations of Darjeeling in the foothills of the Himalayas. Each was >> modeled on the posh English Public school system. We ran them as >> teachers and principals and to this day these schools are coveted across >> the sub-continent. >> >> IDENTITY DILEMMA >> The Anglo-Indian has always faced an identity dilemma because of our >> mixed origins. Europeans said they were Indians with some European >> blood; Indians said they were Europeans with some Indian blood. The >> world of Anglo-India vanished on August 15th 1947, when India became the >> largest independent democracy in the world. >> >> The British packed and went home. >> >> Over 300,000 Anglo-Indians remained. We felt apprehensive and abandoned. >> So we too packed our bags and began to migrate to Australia, Britain, >> Canada, the U.S.A. and New Zealand. ! Many of you will remember the >> dreaded Income Tax Clearance document you need to leave the country and >> further faced the strict Indian foreign exchange regulations that >> allowed you only 10 pounds each. Imagine starting life in a new country >> with 10 quid in your pocket. Some had to leave behind their savings; >> others simply resorted to the risky black market losing a 30% of your >> savings. >> >> IDENTITY >> The Anglo-Indian identity is disappearing. We have found new lives and >> merged into the mainstream. Our generation, sitting here tonight, who >> were born in India, growing up in the 40s thru to 60s, are possibly the >> last true Anglo-Indians. >> >> Look around you. Where is the next generation? Most of our children were >> born abroad and their connection to Anglo-India is very fragile. They >> have married Aussies, English, Canadian or other Anglo-Indians born >> outside India. They prefer to be regarded as English, Australian or >> Canadian. Our grandchildren will assimilate and forge a new identity >> based on their country of birth. >> >> Putting aside history I believe we could regard ourselves as an exotic >> cocktail that had its origins over 300 years ago. We have matured and >> become a unique aromatic spirit, generously flavored and very >> stimulating. >> >> We were a force to be reckoned with. >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this email List, send an email to: >> vsdh-unsubscribe@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com >> _______________________________________________ >> vsdh mailing list >> %(www.vsdh.org) >> vsdh@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

September 9, 2012 Getting a nation on track http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-sundaymagazine/article3876023.ece Anu Kumar tells the story of two unsung Britishers in the 19th century, whose efforts kicked off the railways in India. ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

I would like to thank all those who extended their condolences to the family of Claire Bradley. She was indeed a very special person, my sister and my best friend. We are quite overwhelmed by the number of messages posted on the various lists she subscribed to. I knew she reached out and touched many lives through her computer, which was her link to the outside world, and most were unaware of her failing health and increasing disabilities. She remained brave and indomitable to the end. R.I.P. dear Claire. Rosemary

I was very sad to hear the news about our Claire. From the many tributes paid to her I add my heartfelt condolences to her family and many friends. She was witty, full of energy and courageous, always ready to support the underdog and righteous. Her posts to the list were straight from the heart and entertaining reading. I recall her post soon after the terrorist attack on Bombay, her nostalgic time at the YWCA, the famous Irani restaurant on Colaba Road that had the world famous biryani and of course the Pani Puri - the heavenly snack she will now have plenty of. I was in Bombay about the same time Claire was and travelled the same path. My preference at that restaurant was the paratta and masala chops. RIP Pat

If you are going to Berlin one of these days, don't miss this chance: Photographic Exhibition of The Colonial Eye. Early Portrait Photography in India | >From Friday July 20, 2012 to Sunday October 21, 2012 at Museum für Fotografie Jebensstr. 2 10623 Berlin Germany T +49 (0)30 3186 4825 http://www.smb.museum/mf Tues-Sun 10 am - 6 pm, Thu 10 am - 10 pm One of the most comprehensive and significant collections of portrait photography from India is on exhibit for the first time. The collection of the Ethnological Museum was originally thought to be lost during World War II, only returning to Berlin beginning in the 1990s. Now, around 300 photographs from the second half of the nineteenth century offer a comprehensive overview of portrait photography from the Indian subcontinent. Albert Thomas Watson Penn Bourne & Shepherd John Burke Francis Frith Westfield & Co Edward Taurines A.W.A. Platé & Co Shepherd & Robertson Samuel Bourne W.L.H. Skeen & Co In addition to pictures by renowned photographers and studios such as Samuel Bourne, Shepherd & Robertson, A.T.W. Penn, and John Burke, works by lesser known artists are also on display. Popular and unexpectedly diverse ethnographic photography of the time stands in contrast to stylised street shots of artisans, as well as portraits of nobility, including Islamic princes and princesses, Maharajas, and clan leaders, taken in their own palaces or in artfully set studio scenes. One unifying aspect of many early portraits is a particularly European view - "The Colonial Eye". In the second half of the nineteenth century, in the name of science and colonialism, the land and its inhabitants were to be apprehended through observation and cataloguing, analysation and measurement. The fascination with India was especially evoked by the strange-looking indigenous peoples and the caste-system, as well as the splendour of the Indian nobility and the austere life of ascetics. An exhibition organized by the Art Library, the Ethnological Museum, and the Museum of Asian Art. http://www.artlimited.net/news/en/7581752 ------------------------- ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

My heartfelt condolences on the demise of Claire Amy Bradley, a senior and loyal member of this List. She began her life in Poona, a place to which I am much attached. I feel that yet one more old Poonaite has gone... Arvind Kolhatkar, Toronto, September 06, 2012. -----Original Message----- From: Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:09 AM To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Claire Amy Bradley - my friend Dear Friends : It is my sad and painful duty to inform you that one of our senior and esteemed members Claire Bradley passed away in New York on Sunday evening, 26th August 2012, at the age of 70. She was ailing for about two weeks prior to her to death and her condition worsened day by day. Finally the inevitable happened - in spite of the prayers and best wishes of all her relatives and friends. Claire and I became friends through India List. Later she joined our India British Raj List and became one of its frequent correspondents and loyal supporters. It's difficult to express in words your feeling for someone you have never met in person: yet for whom you feel a strong affection and affinity. We used to exchange all types of news and gossip and opinions on all sorts of subjects almost every day. Through her words and ideas I could visualise her as a jolly, fun loving person, very open-minded and liberal and yet quite determined on certain issues. She never minced her words and was not averse to saying them aloud. But she was gentle; she never hurt anybody deliberately. Her sense of humour was exceptionally strong and she saw and fully enjoyed the funny side of life. When she got tired of the pigeons dirtying the windowsills and glass panes of her apartment every day, she photographed them and dashed off several letters to her local councillor. Her description of that scene was very graphic and droll. Over the years, I increasingly came to look upon her as a very close family friend - a favourite aunt, may be! Claire left India in late1950s for good - but India could never leave her. She remembered forever the sights and sounds and smells and smiles and silliness of India and was highly nostalgic about the fun-filled, ecstatic days she had spent in Poona (now Pune) and Bombay (now Mumbai). The taste of some of her favourite Indian dishes - such as ''gulab jamun'' (sweet) and ''Pani-Puri'' (spicy, hot) lingered on her lips till the end. Just a few days before her last hospitalisation, she wrote to me on the fifth of August 2012 << This is a good comprehensive list (of 40 popular Bombay) food dishes but sticking out like a sore thumb by its absence: PANI PURI! How could they forget that? The most exquisite explosion of flavours in the mouth, and I could easily make myself sick eating too many of them -- mmm-hmmm! How I'd love to walk over to Chowpatty and scoff some of these goodies. >> And then came the thunderbolt - email from Claire's sister Rosemary Taylor (who is also our List member), informing me of Claire's illness - and then came the dreaded news three days ago - Claire was no more. I know she was reconciled to the inevitable but had never sounded bitter about her debilitating illness. So as a matter of fact, death has come as a blessed release to her from her pain and suffering. How does one weep for someone whom one has never met, yet who is almost a part of one's family? I am not ashamed to admit that when I read about Claire's passing, my eyes became moist and I was haunted by her thoughts for a long, long time. She was a superb human being. We all will miss her. We'll miss her smile, her energy, her ebullience, her cheerful spirit, her love for life, her humour. Rest in Peace, Claire - my old friend, my fellow P G Wodehouse- fan, and my British India History comrade. -- Harshawardhan (Harshoo) [Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar] I am grateful to Claire's sister Rosemary Taylor for this input on her life: << Claire Amy Bradley b. 16 September 1938, d. 26 August 2012. Claire was born in Quetta, Baluchistan, then part of British India, on 16 Sept 1938. Her parents were Aubrey Richard Bradley, known to his friends as Dick, and Heather Agnes Lillian nee Hibbert, known to her friends as Dolly. Her father, who was born in Springfield, Idle, Bradford, served in the Army Ordnance Corps, and in 1941 was posted to Maymyo, Burma. With the fall of Rangoon to the Japanese, the family were evacuated to India, where her mother received the news of the death of her husband in May 1942. Dick Bradley is interred at Gauhati War Graves Cemetery. Claire and her siblings grew up in Poona. They originally attended the Lawrence Memorial Royal Military School, Lovedale, Nilgiris, then the Convent of Jesus and Mary Poona, from where she passed her senior Cambridge exams in 1954. She then went on to secretarial school, and started working, first in Poona and then in Bombay. The firm sent her to Karachi to work for their branch there, and from then on she had an eventful life, working in Teheran, Rome, Greece, and Nigeria. Claire came to the USA in the early 60's; first to Washington DC and then to San Francisco. In 1966 she applied for US Citizenship, and made her home in New York. She worked for Arthur Andersen, Arthur Young, and Weil, Gotshal and Manges, where she excelled as a legal secretary. Her increasing deafness forced her to retire, and her subsequent emphysema made life increasingly difficult. But she retained an active and lively correspondence with her family, many friends and acquaintances, via her computer, which became her main form of communication. Her little dog, Nellie was her constant and faithful companion, whose piercing bark alerted Claire to any activity outside her front door! Claire will be sadly missed by all those who came to know and love her for her wit, humour and sheer tenacity. Rest In Peace, my dearest sister, you were one in a million. >> Claire's friend (and our member) Sandra Carney has this to add: << I remember her as an Anglo-Indian woman who loved her adopted country America and was a true Patriot. She loved her little Nellie and told me that she did not know what she would do without her beloved pet. I know she would not have wanted to leave this world without making proper preparations for dear Nellie. She wanted to attend Anglo-Indian functions around the world, but her illness limited her and she regretted this greatly. >> ============================ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message