March 07, 2014 DUBAI: The impact of Western empires on colonies like India and other countries for over two centuries was debated on Thursday as two celebrated authors, with diametrically different views on imperialism, crossed ideological swords and sharp words at the sixth edition of the Emirates Airline Festival of Literature. Celebrated British author Jeremy Paxman was pitted against Indian author Pankaj Mishra, whose latest book on political and social history From the Ruins of Empire: The Revolt Against the West and the Remaking of Asia, has critically re-evaluated the events of the past two centuries. (snip) http://gulftoday.ae/portal/d3522dcd-ec92-4d6c-95ae-9bac5f93bf02.aspx ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

Thanks Arun, this is where I got all my information from apart from the original church registers. I'll have another look. Kind Regards Kerry On 12 March 2014 00:32, Arun Dube <arundube@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Kerry,Try www.familysearch.org. I just checked it and there is a lot > of data available regarding George Frederick & Isabella Marion Jane Edwards > and their children. You can pursue the leads from those details.All the > best,Arun > >

Dear Listers, your help would be appreciated in checking other online sources - I only have access to the 'free' services of LDS Family Search and British Library both of which has proved unsuccessful. The gaps in this family are puzzling to say the least. 1. From the original baptism register of St Mark's Cathedral Bangalore, at George Hubert's baptism, his father George Frederick is shown as Inspector of Police Mysore at 2.2.1899. Does anyone know if there are 'service' directories (ala ones in Hyderabad showing appointments to the Nizam's service) to show when he may have been appointed to that service? George died 25 June 1914 in Hyderabad. Baptism: George Hubert Edwards s/o George Frederick & Isabella Marion Jane Edwards b 2.2.1899 - Inspector of Police Mysore. 2. I am also trying to locate his wife's maiden name.....Isabella Marion Jane (?) no date/place of marriage is known although the first child was born in 1885 so the marriage could have been anytime before that. 3. Any other help on the marriage(s), burials of the siblings would be appreciated. 1 George Frederick Edwards b: 14 October 1851 in Madras d: 25 June 1914 in Hyderabad .. married Isabella Marion Jane (?) b: Unknown m: Unknown d: Unknown *Children* .. 2 Helen Stella Edwards b: 1885 ...... married Alric De Prazer b: 1884 m: 21 February 1906 in Hyderabad .. 2 Elizabeth Isabella Edwards b: 11 December 1886 in Belgaum *Father*- Abode: Belgaum Trade: Sergeant, 1st Batt. Rifle Brigade 2 Georgiana Fanny Handin Edwards b: 16 July 1892 in Bangalore .. 2 George Hubert Edwards b: 2 February 1899 in Bangalore *Father:*Occupation of George Frederick was shown as Inspector of Police Mysore. .... +Rosie John b: 1912 m: 10 March 1929 in Bombay Kind Regards Kerry

Hi Kerry,Try www.familysearch.org. I just checked it and there is a lot of data available regarding George Frederick & Isabella Marion Jane Edwards and their children. You can pursue the leads from those details.All the best,Arun > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:41:49 +1100 > From: ozmulki@gmail.com > To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com > Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] George Frederick Edwards & Family > > Dear Listers, > > your help would be appreciated in checking other online sources - I only > have access to the 'free' services of LDS Family Search and British > Library both of which has proved unsuccessful. > > The gaps in this family are puzzling to say the least. > > 1. From the original baptism register of St Mark's Cathedral Bangalore, at > George Hubert's baptism, his father George Frederick is shown as Inspector > of Police Mysore at 2.2.1899. Does anyone know if there are 'service' > directories (ala ones in Hyderabad showing appointments to the Nizam's > service) to show when he may have been appointed to that service? George > died 25 June 1914 in Hyderabad. > > Baptism: George Hubert Edwards s/o George Frederick & Isabella Marion Jane > Edwards b 2.2.1899 - Inspector of Police Mysore. > > 2. I am also trying to locate his wife's maiden name.....Isabella Marion > Jane (?) no date/place of marriage is known although the first child was > born in 1885 so the marriage could have been anytime before that. > > 3. Any other help on the marriage(s), burials of the siblings would be > appreciated. > > 1 George Frederick Edwards b: 14 October 1851 in Madras d: 25 June 1914 > in Hyderabad > .. married Isabella Marion Jane (?) b: Unknown m: Unknown d: Unknown > *Children* > .. 2 Helen Stella Edwards b: 1885 > ...... married Alric De Prazer b: 1884 m: 21 February 1906 in Hyderabad > .. 2 Elizabeth Isabella Edwards b: 11 December 1886 in Belgaum > *Father*- Abode: Belgaum Trade: Sergeant, 1st Batt. Rifle Brigade > 2 Georgiana Fanny Handin Edwards b: 16 July 1892 in Bangalore > .. 2 George Hubert Edwards b: 2 February 1899 in Bangalore > *Father:*Occupation of George Frederick was shown as Inspector of > Police Mysore. > .... +Rosie John b: 1912 m: 10 March 1929 in Bombay > > > Kind Regards > > Kerry > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Harsha, I tracked down the 'train scene' from the Hindi film Teezari Manzil .... (mute the sound if you don't want to hear hideous laughter or Hindi dialogue), the carriage is exactly the one I was looking for...it was possibly a 6 berth where the film crew had camped to film the shot! Nostalgic memories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ybeCT8xCk Thanks everyone for their help and comments. Kind Regards Kerry

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Edwards" <> does anyone have a photo(s) of *the inside of the old style 1st class 'bogie*' (4/6 berth carriage) circa 1940s/50s/60s? The one I am after is the one that had an 'ensuite' within the carriage and the door(s) opened onto the platform before they were replaced with the 'corridor' type 1st class bogies. One of the NSGR (Nizam's State Guaranteed Railway) would be great, however any other would be also suitable. ===================================== Kerry, my best suggestion at this moment is you try contacting a gentleman called John Lacey. He has supplied many an old image (of the type you want) to the picture gallery of the Indian Railways enthusiasts' group IRFCA. If you get in touch with the administrator of that group, he or some other member may help you either himself or give you the contact details of this John Lacey. Please do tell us what happens. Here is the link to IRFCA's online photo gallery featuring Carriage Interiors = http://www.irfca.org/gallery/Carriages/CarriageInteriors/ You'll not find there what you are looking for but it'll give you an idea. I am very sure I have seen some of these old first class coaches at least on two or three occasions in my childhood. Of course the 'corridor' type 1st class was what we were used to before it was abolished. Along with the long-gone second class sleepers, they too have become a distant memory. And the old third class has now been renamed second class. Again, I cannot remember their names off-hand, but there are several Hindi movies (made in the 1940s/50s/60s) that have scenes showing these old carriages. I am trying to recollect whether it was a similar coach that was used for the opening scene of the celebrated Shammi Kapoor - Asha Parekh film Teesari Manzil (1965-ish). Will check. Lastly, those of you who have read Paul Scott's monumental tetralogy The Jewel in the Crown (the Raj Quartet) will remember the chapter in which the Colonel's train journey from Bombay with his daughter (after his release from the German internment and return to India) is described in minutest details, including the time when he visits the en-suite loo in the compartment of the 1st-class coach they are in. THAT is your carriage. Did they show this journey in the TV series? Best, ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

As I remember the TV series Jewel in the Crown (from 30 years ago) there was no railway journey for Sarah Layton (Geraldine James) with her returning father, Colonel Layton. For all the trouble his wife and daughters had piled up for him while he was away, I thought the story line at the end gave him too little attention. Earlier we saw Sarah in her railway sleeper returning from her ruthless seduction in the seedy glamour of wartime Calcutta. I think we saw nothing of the cabin she was in. I do not think we saw any of the interiors sought by Kerry Edwards. We did though enjoy the Nawab's state carriage (I hope I have the right titles here), grander than whatever would have been offered the ordinary railway traveller. I think always at night, we saw the Nawab's wily chef de cabinet Count Bronowski (Eric Porter) and the British Political Officer Captain Rowan (Nichols Prevost) plotting and negotiating in the greatest luxury. I read that the exterior shots of the series were all taken on location in India, while the interiors were all created in a studio in England. I would be sorry if this carriage was merely a figment of a set-designer's imagination. Rupert Butler -----Original Message----- From: india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar Sent: 09 March 2014 19:10 To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Indian Railway Bogie Photos... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Edwards" <> does anyone have a photo(s) of *the inside of the old style 1st class 'bogie*' (4/6 berth carriage) circa 1940s/50s/60s? The one I am after is the one that had an 'ensuite' within the carriage and the door(s) opened onto the platform before they were replaced with the 'corridor' type 1st class bogies. One of the NSGR (Nizam's State Guaranteed Railway) would be great, however any other would be also suitable. ===================================== Kerry, my best suggestion at this moment is you try contacting a gentleman called John Lacey. He has supplied many an old image (of the type you want) to the picture gallery of the Indian Railways enthusiasts' group IRFCA. If you get in touch with the administrator of that group, he or some other member may help you either himself or give you the contact details of this John Lacey. Please do tell us what happens. Here is the link to IRFCA's online photo gallery featuring Carriage Interiors = http://www.irfca.org/gallery/Carriages/CarriageInteriors/ You'll not find there what you are looking for but it'll give you an idea. I am very sure I have seen some of these old first class coaches at least on two or three occasions in my childhood. Of course the 'corridor' type 1st class was what we were used to before it was abolished. Along with the long-gone second class sleepers, they too have become a distant memory. And the old third class has now been renamed second class. Again, I cannot remember their names off-hand, but there are several Hindi movies (made in the 1940s/50s/60s) that have scenes showing these old carriages. I am trying to recollect whether it was a similar coach that was used for the opening scene of the celebrated Shammi Kapoor - Asha Parekh film Teesari Manzil (1965-ish). Will check. Lastly, those of you who have read Paul Scott's monumental tetralogy The Jewel in the Crown (the Raj Quartet) will remember the chapter in which the Colonel's train journey from Bombay with his daughter (after his release from the German internment and return to India) is described in minutest details, including the time when he visits the en-suite loo in the compartment of the 1st-class coach they are in. THAT is your carriage. Did they show this journey in the TV series? Best, ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3705/7155 - Release Date: 03/05/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3705/7155 - Release Date: 03/05/14

And, further to Kerry’s description, if one was in the position of a senior officer on the Railways, one could order a saloon car (I believe it was called) with a pantry and kitchen and servant’s quarters attached. One had to inform somebody of the places to be visited - I believe we were coupled to a main line and on reaching our destination, uncoupled and shunted on to a short length of rail (?). Having spent as many days as one wished at this particular holiday spot, I can remember as a small child, the sound of heavy coupling and the hard chug and steam of another mainline train, taking us away to ….. wherever ! All this in the dark and I can still recall the wonder of it ! That was the E.I.R. On 9 Mar 2014, at 8:14 pm, SUJATA MASSEY <sujatamassey@mac.com> wrote: > These railway compartments (bogies?) sound amazing! Did they exist on long distance trains in Indias back in the 1920s, too? > Sujata > > On Mar 9, 2014, at 4:00 AM, india-british-raj-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Indian Railway Bogie Photos... (Kerry Edwards) >> 2. Re: Indian Railway Bogie Photos... (arundube@hotmail.com) >> >> From: Kerry Edwards <ozmulki@gmail.com> >> Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Indian Railway Bogie Photos... >> Date: March 8, 2014 at 5:31:03 AM EST >> To: India British Raj Rootsweb <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> >> Reply-To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com >> >> >> Hello Listers, >> >> does anyone have a photo(s) of *the inside of the old style 1st class >> 'bogie*' (4/6 berth carriage) circa 1940s/50s/60s? >> >> The one I am after is the one that had an 'ensuite' within the carriage and >> the door(s) opened onto the platform before they were replaced with the >> 'corridor' type 1st class bogies. >> >> One of the NSGR (Nizam's State Guaranteed Railway) would be great, however >> any other would be also suitable. >> >> >> Khudha Hafiz >> >> Kerry >> >> >> >> >> From: <arundube@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Indian Railway Bogie Photos... >> Date: March 8, 2014 at 6:14:34 AM EST >> To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com >> Reply-To: arundube@hotmail.com, india-british-raj@rootsweb.com >> >> >> There are old railway bogies at the Rail Museum in New Delhi which are like the one described. I remember travelling in such bogies as a youngster. They had en-suite bathrooms and were not connected by a corridor. I remember they had 6 berths and the whole family could travel in comfort. >> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kerry Edwards <ozmulki@gmail.com> >> Sender: india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 21:31:03 >> To: India British Raj Rootsweb<india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> >> Reply-To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Indian Railway Bogie Photos... >> >> Hello Listers, >> >> does anyone have a photo(s) of *the inside of the old style 1st class >> 'bogie*' (4/6 berth carriage) circa 1940s/50s/60s? >> >> The one I am after is the one that had an 'ensuite' within the carriage and >> the door(s) opened onto the platform before they were replaced with the >> 'corridor' type 1st class bogies. >> >> One of the NSGR (Nizam's State Guaranteed Railway) would be great, however >> any other would be also suitable. >> >> >> Khudha Hafiz >> >> Kerry >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> To contact the INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ list administrator, send an email to >> INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ mailing list, send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These railway compartments (bogies?) sound amazing! Did they exist on long distance trains in Indias back in the 1920s, too? Sujata On Mar 9, 2014, at 4:00 AM, india-british-raj-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Indian Railway Bogie Photos... (Kerry Edwards) > 2. Re: Indian Railway Bogie Photos... (arundube@hotmail.com) > > From: Kerry Edwards <ozmulki@gmail.com> > Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Indian Railway Bogie Photos... > Date: March 8, 2014 at 5:31:03 AM EST > To: India British Raj Rootsweb <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com > > > Hello Listers, > > does anyone have a photo(s) of *the inside of the old style 1st class > 'bogie*' (4/6 berth carriage) circa 1940s/50s/60s? > > The one I am after is the one that had an 'ensuite' within the carriage and > the door(s) opened onto the platform before they were replaced with the > 'corridor' type 1st class bogies. > > One of the NSGR (Nizam's State Guaranteed Railway) would be great, however > any other would be also suitable. > > > Khudha Hafiz > > Kerry > > > > > From: <arundube@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Indian Railway Bogie Photos... > Date: March 8, 2014 at 6:14:34 AM EST > To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: arundube@hotmail.com, india-british-raj@rootsweb.com > > > There are old railway bogies at the Rail Museum in New Delhi which are like the one described. I remember travelling in such bogies as a youngster. They had en-suite bathrooms and were not connected by a corridor. I remember they had 6 berths and the whole family could travel in comfort. > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kerry Edwards <ozmulki@gmail.com> > Sender: india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 21:31:03 > To: India British Raj Rootsweb<india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com > Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Indian Railway Bogie Photos... > > Hello Listers, > > does anyone have a photo(s) of *the inside of the old style 1st class > 'bogie*' (4/6 berth carriage) circa 1940s/50s/60s? > > The one I am after is the one that had an 'ensuite' within the carriage and > the door(s) opened onto the platform before they were replaced with the > 'corridor' type 1st class bogies. > > One of the NSGR (Nizam's State Guaranteed Railway) would be great, however > any other would be also suitable. > > > Khudha Hafiz > > Kerry > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > To contact the INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ list administrator, send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ mailing list, send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text.

Hello Listers, does anyone have a photo(s) of *the inside of the old style 1st class 'bogie*' (4/6 berth carriage) circa 1940s/50s/60s? The one I am after is the one that had an 'ensuite' within the carriage and the door(s) opened onto the platform before they were replaced with the 'corridor' type 1st class bogies. One of the NSGR (Nizam's State Guaranteed Railway) would be great, however any other would be also suitable. Khudha Hafiz Kerry

There are old railway bogies at the Rail Museum in New Delhi which are like the one described. I remember travelling in such bogies as a youngster. They had en-suite bathrooms and were not connected by a corridor. I remember they had 6 berths and the whole family could travel in comfort. Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Edwards <ozmulki@gmail.com> Sender: india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 21:31:03 To: India British Raj Rootsweb<india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: india-british-raj@rootsweb.com Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Indian Railway Bogie Photos... Hello Listers, does anyone have a photo(s) of *the inside of the old style 1st class 'bogie*' (4/6 berth carriage) circa 1940s/50s/60s? The one I am after is the one that had an 'ensuite' within the carriage and the door(s) opened onto the platform before they were replaced with the 'corridor' type 1st class bogies. One of the NSGR (Nizam's State Guaranteed Railway) would be great, however any other would be also suitable. Khudha Hafiz Kerry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

March 4, 2014 Calcutta: a jewel in the crown of British India Krishna Dutta's "Calcutta - A Cultural and Literary history", with a foreword by Anita Desai, gives us a kaleidoscopic view of the city with its multiple paradoxes, and a personal insight into its unique history in a moving manner. Colonial life Krishna Dutta's narration in nine chapters takes us through a journey of colonial life, educational and social reforms, literary peaks, political upheavals against the British, cultural empowerment and political history since independence to the fall of the Left in 2011. Among the many highlights of this book is the vivid description of Black Hole of Calcutta (a prelude to the Battle of Plassey) in which the then Nawab of Bengal Siraj-ud-Daula captured Fort William and confined 146 Britishers in a single window room measuring 14 feet by 18 feet on the night of June 20, 1756 from which only 23 came out alive. (snip) http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-bookreview/calcutta-a-jewel-in-the-crown-of-british-india/article5748216.ece ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

G’day Sally, On 6 Mar 2014, at 8:23 pm, karoo4@bigpond.com wrote: John - You have ‘somewhere’ in your vsdh website, photographs sent in by Gillian Donaldson or other (?) who mentions a member of her family being chauffeur to the Governor of Bengal - at the time. I hope my mind has not begun to play tricks !!! There were lots of photographs. I believe Gillian for a time, spent time at the Jute Mills perhaps while thou were there ? Sally You are referring to Gill Millar who comes to Townsville from time to time. But I think that you are mixing her up with Jean Rae. It was Jean's father who drove the Roller. See… http://www.vsdh.org/vsdh/jean/ Thankyou for your response. ooroo

G’day James, On 6 Mar 2014, at 7:35 pm, James Sinclair <jimsin12@aol.com> wrote: The only story I have is one my mother recounts in her childhood memories. When she was a little girl, the Maharaja of Cooch Behar once asked her what she wanted as a gift. She promptly responded "A diamond Rolls Royce." She received the gift a bit later - a gold Rolls Royce in miniature with diamonds set in the centre of each wheel! James Sinclair jimsin12@aol.com I have forwarded your msg. A nice story. ooroo

John - You have ‘somewhere’ in your vsdh website, photographs sent in by Gillian Donaldson or other (?) who mentions a member of her family being chauffeur to the Governor of Bengal - at the time. I hope my mind has not begun to play tricks !!! There were lots of photographs. I believe Gillian for a time, spent time at the Jute Mills perhaps while thou were there ? Sally On 6 Mar 2014, at 1:08 pm, John Feltham <wantok@me.com> wrote: > G’day folks, > > I have just received this email and wondered how many of you have any Rolls Royce stories - in India? > > Answers to this list and to the address shown below. > > ooroo > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: John Fasal <jfasal@btinternet.com> > Subject: The Indian Raj > Date: 6 March 2014 7:06:22 am AEST > To: "wantok@me.com" <wantok@me.com> > > Dear John Feltham, > I gather you are a keen follower of the British Raj in India and I wonder if you can help me. For many years (since August 1967) I have had the pleasure of looking after the vintage Rolls-Royce cars for a number of the Princely families, mainly in Rajasthan. At the end of this year I plan to publish the definitive two volume work on 'Rolls-Royce & Bentleys in Princely India’. > > I have seen an interesting website on Jean Rae who's father Frank Ronald Rae was chauffeur to Lord Casey (Gov. of Bengal, 1944-46) and then the driver to Lord Mountbatten. I would be grateful to be put in touch with his daughter and learn more about her father's service in India and help identify various photos I have which could be her father in Simla. > > It would be a pleasure to meet you and show you our Durbar Hall, opened last year by the grandson of H.M. King George V. We have transformed our main central barn in Broxbourne, Herts. into the Durbar Hall which contains many framed portraits and photographs of the Maharajas and Nawabs 'dripping in diamonds' and their Rolls-Royce & Bentley cars. > > With kind regards and looking forward to hearing from you. John Fasal > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G’day folks, I have just received this email and wondered how many of you have any Rolls Royce stories - in India? Answers to this list and to the address shown below. ooroo Begin forwarded message: From: John Fasal <jfasal@btinternet.com> Subject: The Indian Raj Date: 6 March 2014 7:06:22 am AEST To: "wantok@me.com" <wantok@me.com> Dear John Feltham, I gather you are a keen follower of the British Raj in India and I wonder if you can help me. For many years (since August 1967) I have had the pleasure of looking after the vintage Rolls-Royce cars for a number of the Princely families, mainly in Rajasthan. At the end of this year I plan to publish the definitive two volume work on 'Rolls-Royce & Bentleys in Princely India’. I have seen an interesting website on Jean Rae who's father Frank Ronald Rae was chauffeur to Lord Casey (Gov. of Bengal, 1944-46) and then the driver to Lord Mountbatten. I would be grateful to be put in touch with his daughter and learn more about her father's service in India and help identify various photos I have which could be her father in Simla. It would be a pleasure to meet you and show you our Durbar Hall, opened last year by the grandson of H.M. King George V. We have transformed our main central barn in Broxbourne, Herts. into the Durbar Hall which contains many framed portraits and photographs of the Maharajas and Nawabs 'dripping in diamonds' and their Rolls-Royce & Bentley cars. With kind regards and looking forward to hearing from you. John Fasal

One of the Orr girls.. Georgiana (Georgy) born 1840s was Governess to the Cooch Bihar children- probably in the 1860s. Can anyone expand on who or what was happening then? Vanya Mobile +447776279438 *God's joy moves from unmarked box to unmarked box* *from cell to cell. As rainwater, down into the flowerbed.* *As roses up from the ground..........* *It hides within these* *till one day it cracks them open. Rumi* Landline: 0044(0)1239 820 598 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEzyR9iYE0&feature=channel_video_title www.earthtrustnilgiris.org; facebook: Earth Trust Nilgiris http://www.globalgiving.org/projects/addressing-poverty-hunger-in-50-indian-tribal-villages/ * On 6 March 2014 09:35, James Sinclair <jimsin12@aol.com> wrote: > > The only story I have is one my mother recounts in her childhood memories. > When she was a little girl, the Maharaja of Cooch Behar once asked her > what she wanted as a gift. She promptly responded "A diamond Rolls Royce." > She received the gift a bit later - a gold Rolls Royce in miniature with > diamonds set in the centre of each wheel! > > James Sinclair > jimsin12@aol.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Feltham <wantok@me.com> > To: Raj <INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 5:10 > Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] The Raj List - Rolls Royce in India > > > G’day folks, > > I have just received this email and wondered how many of you have any Rolls > Royce stories - in India? > > Answers to this list and to the address shown below. > > ooroo > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: John Fasal <jfasal@btinternet.com> > Subject: The Indian Raj > Date: 6 March 2014 7:06:22 am AEST > To: "wantok@me.com" <wantok@me.com> > > Dear John Feltham, > I gather you are a keen follower of the British Raj in India and I wonder > if you > can help me. For many years (since August 1967) I have had the pleasure of > looking after the vintage Rolls-Royce cars for a number of the Princely > families, mainly in Rajasthan. At the end of this year I plan to publish > the > definitive two volume work on 'Rolls-Royce & Bentleys in Princely India’. > > I have seen an interesting website on Jean Rae who's father Frank Ronald > Rae was > chauffeur to Lord Casey (Gov. of Bengal, 1944-46) and then the driver to > Lord > Mountbatten. I would be grateful to be put in touch with his daughter and > learn > more about her father's service in India and help identify various photos > I have > which could be her father in Simla. > > It would be a pleasure to meet you and show you our Durbar Hall, opened > last > year by the grandson of H.M. King George V. We have transformed our main > central > barn in Broxbourne, Herts. into the Durbar Hall which contains many framed > portraits and photographs of the Maharajas and Nawabs 'dripping in > diamonds' and > their Rolls-Royce & Bentley cars. > > With kind regards and looking forward to hearing from you. John Fasal > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Here's the extract of my mother's story "Petals in the Dust." I'm not sure who Uncle Raji or Uncle Hittie were - perhaps the sons of the then Maharaja in about 1913? Could anyone clarify? "The Cooch Behar’s were specialfriends of his (my mother's father) and were always at our tennis and other parties. ‘Uncle’ Raji was a special friend of mine andonce, when I was younger, asked me what I wanted as a present. ‘A diamond motor-car,’ I answeredpromptly. ‘First give me your medal?’ Uncle Raji would tease, winking at hisbrother, ‘Uncle’ Hittie sitting opposite. This was a toy from a Christmas cracker which he knew I would not partwith on any account. Whenever he askedthis question he knew I would slip off his knee and go and sit on UncleHittie’s. On this occasion it was no different; I immediately forgot all about thefanciful car studded with diamonds. Mymedal was far more precious to me, and althoughI didn’t part with it anyway, his gift did arrive some months later – a goldRolls Royce in miniature with a diamond set in the centre of each wheel! James Sinclair jimsin12@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Vanya Orr <orrvanya@gmail.com> To: india-british-raj <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 12:53 Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] The Raj List - Rolls Royce in India One of the Orr girls.. Georgiana (Georgy) born 1840s was Governess to the Cooch Bihar children- probably in the 1860s. Can anyone expand on who or what was happening then? Vanya Mobile +447776279438 *God's joy moves from unmarked box to unmarked box* *from cell to cell. As rainwater, down into the flowerbed.* *As roses up from the ground..........* *It hides within these* *till one day it cracks them open. Rumi* Landline: 0044(0)1239 820 598 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEzyR9iYE0&feature=channel_video_title www.earthtrustnilgiris.org; facebook: Earth Trust Nilgiris http://www.globalgiving.org/projects/addressing-poverty-hunger-in-50-indian-tribal-villages/ * On 6 March 2014 09:35, James Sinclair <jimsin12@aol.com> wrote: > > The only story I have is one my mother recounts in her childhood memories. > When she was a little girl, the Maharaja of Cooch Behar once asked her > what she wanted as a gift. She promptly responded "A diamond Rolls Royce." > She received the gift a bit later - a gold Rolls Royce in miniature with > diamonds set in the centre of each wheel! > > James Sinclair > jimsin12@aol.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Feltham <wantok@me.com> > To: Raj <INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 5:10 > Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] The Raj List - Rolls Royce in India > > > G’day folks, > > I have just received this email and wondered how many of you have any Rolls > Royce stories - in India? > > Answers to this list and to the address shown below. > > ooroo > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: John Fasal <jfasal@btinternet.com> > Subject: The Indian Raj > Date: 6 March 2014 7:06:22 am AEST > To: "wantok@me.com" <wantok@me.com> > > Dear John Feltham, > I gather you are a keen follower of the British Raj in India and I wonder > if you > can help me. For many years (since August 1967) I have had the pleasure of > looking after the vintage Rolls-Royce cars for a number of the Princely > families, mainly in Rajasthan. At the end of this year I plan to publish > the > definitive two volume work on 'Rolls-Royce & Bentleys in Princely India’. > > I have seen an interesting website on Jean Rae who's father Frank Ronald > Rae was > chauffeur to Lord Casey (Gov. of Bengal, 1944-46) and then the driver to > Lord > Mountbatten. I would be grateful to be put in touch with his daughter and > learn > more about her father's service in India and help identify various photos > I have > which could be her father in Simla. > > It would be a pleasure to meet you and show you our Durbar Hall, opened > last > year by the grandson of H.M. King George V. We have transformed our main > central > barn in Broxbourne, Herts. into the Durbar Hall which contains many framed > portraits and photographs of the Maharajas and Nawabs 'dripping in > diamonds' and > their Rolls-Royce & Bentley cars. > > With kind regards and looking forward to hearing from you. John Fasal > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The only story I have is one my mother recounts in her childhood memories. When she was a little girl, the Maharaja of Cooch Behar once asked her what she wanted as a gift. She promptly responded "A diamond Rolls Royce." She received the gift a bit later - a gold Rolls Royce in miniature with diamonds set in the centre of each wheel! James Sinclair jimsin12@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: John Feltham <wantok@me.com> To: Raj <INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 5:10 Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] The Raj List - Rolls Royce in India G’day folks, I have just received this email and wondered how many of you have any Rolls Royce stories - in India? Answers to this list and to the address shown below. ooroo Begin forwarded message: From: John Fasal <jfasal@btinternet.com> Subject: The Indian Raj Date: 6 March 2014 7:06:22 am AEST To: "wantok@me.com" <wantok@me.com> Dear John Feltham, I gather you are a keen follower of the British Raj in India and I wonder if you can help me. For many years (since August 1967) I have had the pleasure of looking after the vintage Rolls-Royce cars for a number of the Princely families, mainly in Rajasthan. At the end of this year I plan to publish the definitive two volume work on 'Rolls-Royce & Bentleys in Princely India’. I have seen an interesting website on Jean Rae who's father Frank Ronald Rae was chauffeur to Lord Casey (Gov. of Bengal, 1944-46) and then the driver to Lord Mountbatten. I would be grateful to be put in touch with his daughter and learn more about her father's service in India and help identify various photos I have which could be her father in Simla. It would be a pleasure to meet you and show you our Durbar Hall, opened last year by the grandson of H.M. King George V. We have transformed our main central barn in Broxbourne, Herts. into the Durbar Hall which contains many framed portraits and photographs of the Maharajas and Nawabs 'dripping in diamonds' and their Rolls-Royce & Bentley cars. With kind regards and looking forward to hearing from you. John Fasal ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Remains of over 100 martyrs brutally massacred by the British Army in 1857 dug up at 'Rebel's Grave' in Amritsar By Manjeet Sehgal 2 March 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/indianews/article-2571070/Remains-100-martyrs-brutally-massacred-British-Army-1857-dug-Rebels-Grave-Amristar.html ---- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar