Quote: *** The year is 1857 and the First Indian Rebellion is at its full force. This blog will transport you back 150 years and give you a daily update on the state of the Uprising. Fully supported by the authentic drawings from the same era and enhanced by the modern multimedia tools. *** Unquote http://www.1857mutiny.com/ ----- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar Nagpur, India

http://www.geocities.com/scn_pk/murree_cemetery.html ----- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar Nagpur, India

Quoting From http://blog.dawn.com/?p=436 Caring for the dead Posted by Taimur Sikander The historic Hari Singh ka Bagh cemetery in Haripur has dilapidated due to years of neglect by the NWFP agricultural department. The cemetery was established in 1822 as a resting place for British soldiers killed in tribal uprisings in the former Darband state. The Haripur cemetery is housed in the Hari Singh garden, now called the Fruit Nursery Farm, and is one of the few remaining reflections of the Victorian Era design employed by the British Empire throughout the subcontinent. The headstones on some of the graves bear the names of captains and officers of the British army. However, the agricultural department remains indifferent to the preservation and the cemetery continues to be a haven for drug traffickers and addicts. In recent years many historical and archaeological sites in country have come under the radar of commercial development projects. Most proposals, however, have been met with stiff opposition from both local and foreign agencies. And even though Haripur is included in the list of British Association for Cemeteries in South Asia as a historical landmark, the lack of local governmental protection make it extremely vulnerable. The impetus for restoration must come from the local community, and to preserve it, the Cultural Heritage of Pakistan must include it in its list of preserved sites immediately. ================================ ----- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar Nagpur, India

While still on the subject of Banaras or Benaras or Varanasi (or Kashi, as devout Hindus would have it - it being the holiest city for millions and millions of Indians), here is something worth buying - though the price is rather high. ** Banaras: The City Revealed; Ed: George Michell and Rana P.B. Singh, photographs by Clare Arni, Marg Publications, Rs. 2500. ** <<<< BANARAS or Varanasi, the city between the rivers Varana and the Assi, inhabited without a break for 3,000 years, has been called the holiest city in India, perhaps in the world. Apart from Hindus, for whom a pilgrimage to it is a religious duty, foreigners have been constantly drawn to its otherworldliness and exoticism. When the British settled here in the 19th century, they introduced a new type of architecture. Bungalows with tiled roofs, each set in a spacious walled garden, came up in the Cantonment. Perhaps, as this reviewer thinks, the style was an expression of European individualism and the obsessive need for privacy, whereas middle-class natives preferred large buildings where several families lived under the same roof, shared open courtyards and rooftop terraces, and took the air in public gardens. A great deal of hard work and scholarship, and nimble legwork too, have gone into the making of this book. Apart from a detailed map there is a historical chart of the growth of the city from the year 1300 onwards and a useful Index, a boon for serious students and visitors alike. One could buy it instead of hiring a guide, an expensive option but far more reliable, and unlike the guide it's there for keeps! >>> Snipped from The Hindu, Sunday, Jul 02, 2006 http://www.hindu.com/mag/2006/07/02/stories/2006070200370700.htm ----- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar Nagpur, India

I doubt if a Pakistani propaganda site can be trusted to do an impartial analysis of Gandhi's life, work and legacy. Mandeep Singh Bajwa Chandigarh India ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar" <bosham@gmail.com> To: <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] The Unknown Gandhi > Mahatma Gandhi's was a controversial persona - he was > loved, respected, worshipped - and hated, disliked, and > criticised in equal measures. Even in hindsight, many > years after his death, he still remains an enigma. Read > the following that shows him in a not-too-flattering light: > > (Rather long, I'm afraid.) > > *** March 8, 2008 > > The Unknown Gandhi: His military service. Debunking > the movie. Shedding light on support for colonialism, > empire, racism, and Hindu religious dogma. > > by moinansari > > Sergeant Major Mohandas K. Gandhi was awarded Victoria's > coveted War Medal for his support of the British wars. Behold > the prophet of non-violence. *** > > http://rupeenews.com/2008/03/08/the-unknown-gandhi-his-military-service-debunking-the-movie-shedding-light-on-support-for-colonialism-empire-racism-and-hindu-religious-dogma/ > > ----- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar > Nagpur, India > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

RE: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Second world warEsther, I am not quite certain that all foreign missionaries working in India were or are required to take up Indian citizenship in order work in India as missionaries. The US Government website http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1139.html clearly says: <Foreign citizens whose primary purpose of travel is to participate in religious activities should obtain a missionary visa rather than a tourist visa. Indian immigration authorities have deported American citizens who entered India with a tourist visa and conducted religious activities.> The website http://www.vakilbabu.com/Laws/Citizenship.htm says the same thing in different words. <Missionary visa: Issued only to bonafide missionaries for their charitable work, as sponsored by their respective organisation. It requires a special permission from the Government of India for the grant of this Visa. A letter from the sponsoring organisation giving details of the charitable work to be performed, the nature of duties of the person, place of work and surety for the maintenance of the missionary has to be submitted for obtaining this Visa.> The Indian Government and the mainly Hindu population are not comfortable with the idea that any foreigner should be able to walk into India and start missionary work, especially among the tribal areas, which has always been the main focus of such activities. Looked at from one perspective, missionary work is good work as the missionaries provide education, medical help etc. From the opposite perspective, such (good) activity can create loyalties which are not necessarily in sync with the Indian polity. Unchecked missionary activity can and does lead to social disquiet. That is why the Indian Government, while allowing foreign missionary activity, also has procedures to monitor it. We observe that the British colonial authorities too did not lend official support to missionary activity and it was never their official policy to spread Christianity in India. Only that the freedom that missionary activity enjoyed pre-independence was more than what it is now. Arvind Kolhatkar, Toronto, March 13, 2008.

Does anyone know whether there was any inclination that if India got independent then there was a chance of her going towards Russia and may be becoming a communistic country? Therefore America tried to intervene and did best to keep India and Russia relationship at a distance. Was this a truth or a myth? Can anyone help me with this please. Thanks Esther

I believe that all the foreign missionaries had to take up Indian citizenship soon after India became independent if they wanted to stay on in India, does anyone know when this rule came about, I mean which year and why? Is this still the condition for any missionary from overseas wanting to work in India indefinately? Thanks Esther

I am very curious about the identity of this deceased person, whose ghost was apparently seen by his brother, if the report quoted below is true. Any ideas? *** Quote *** Case 235 (Type A). A colonel in the Duke of Cornwall's regiment remembered an incident occurring in late September 1864, when he was still a young subaltern in the Carabineers stationed at Shorncliffe Camp. He thought he saw his older brother (then serving with the Royal Engineers in India) walking toward him in the camp, but before he could recover from the shock, the image disappeared. He subsequently discovered that his brother had died of fever at Nagpore, East Indies, at about the time of the incident. He made no notes, and a fellow officer he told of the incident at the time could not remember it when questioned years later. Gurney calculates that the time was coincident with the vision, and found that the date of death was a Sunday--the only date indicator which the percipient could recall in 1885. *** Unquote *** Snipped from Abstracts of Selected Case Studies from Phantasms of the Living http://www.iupui.edu/~peirce/writings/v6/Cases.htm ----- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar Nagpur, India

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ceridwen Harris" I have been researching a Baptist family based in Calcutta and in Benares. The Benares family attended the Secrole Baptuist church, which was in a suburb of Benares - does anyone know wheree I might find a picture of this church and/or of the burial ground which would have been used by the members? =================================== IMO, if you could get in touch with the persons mentioned below, they might be able to guide you properly. (Varanasi and Benaras are one and the same place, and Varanasi Cant must be Secrole.) * Rev. Sam Joshua Singh, Presbyter Incharge, Lalgirja and St.Mary The Parsonage, 51 Cantonment, Varanasi Cant. U.P. * Rev. R.N.Lal, Dean and Presbyter Incharge, St.Paul's Church, Sigra, Varanasi 282 001 * Rev. Akliesh Kumar, Presbyter Incharge, Teliyabagh Church, Near Govt. Roadways, Varanasi, U.P. * Rev. Newton Steven, Teliyabagh Church, Church Compound, Near Govt Roadways, Varanasi. ( See: http://www.lucknowdiocesecni.org/minist.htm ) You might also like to read this old story from the NYT, dated March 12, 1882, Wednesday. [Page 6/ 2566 words] http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=950CE1D9163DE533A25751C1A9659C94639FD7CF And this book: Life and Work in Benares and Kumaon, 1839-1877 by James Kennedy http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24416 BTW, a little-known piece of information can be found in the great Hobson- Jobson Dictionary: ACHANOCK = Chanak and Achanak. The name by which the station of Barrackpore is commonly known to Sepoys and other natives. Some have connected the name with that of Job Charnock, or, as A. Hamilton calls him, Channock, the founder of Calcutta, and the quotations render this probable. Formerly the Cantonment of Secrole at Benares was also known, by a transfer no doubt, as Chhota (or 'Little') Achanak. http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.0:1:5.hobson ----- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar Nagpur, India

Esther, You ask <Does anyone know whether there was any inclination that if India got independent then there was a chance of her going towards Russia and may be becoming a communistic country? Therefore America tried to intervene and did best to keep India and Russia relationship at a distance. Was this a truth or a myth? Can anyone help me with this please. > Whole books can be written to answer this question. I shall attempt to do so in this short mail. After independence, India had many economic problems such as food shortages, poor agriculture and industrial infrastructure, poor capital formation, wide-spread poverty and unemployment etc. I am sure given half a chance, the Americans would have come in with their dollars and wrecked the already weak economy with their ill-thought-out solutions as they did all over South America and would have converted India in no time into an Asian Banana republic. I think we were blessed that we had wise leaders like Jawaharlal Nehru who kept India out of a too close an embrace with the USA. You only have to look at the ghosts created by USA-Pakistan collaboration to realize how fortunate India was not to go into the American camp, which several short-sighted people in India advocated in those days. The non-aligned movement that he led along with Nasser and Tito kept India out of the cold war and allowed India to concentrate on its basic problems. It was the Soviet Union in those days that extended a helping hand and helped create the industrial infrastructure for India. The USA was always jealous of this relationship but I do not think it was in their power "to keep India and Russia relationship at a distance" as you put it. India, with its underlying base of Indian philosophy, is by nature, thinking and its diverse population, a pluralistic and liberal country and would never become a totalitarian communist state. The Soviet leadership also understood this and their own limitations and did not make any over attempts to support a Communist insurgency as they did in several other places around the Globe. India's left-leaning stand in international affairs was too precious an asset for them to throw away! The intervention by the State into several walks, while beneficial in the early days, had become an obstacle to progress by the early 80's. It took India a while to realize this but now the process of liberalization is well on its way and, if guided properly, will lead to greater prosperity for all Indians. It is too early to say whether the liberalization is leading India towards this goal or away from it. Arvind Kolhatkar, Toronto, March 12, 2008.

Hi Richard, Thank you for your response. I will pass this information onto Peg. She actually did not attend her mothers burial because they had very little contact her whole life. Her mom and 2nd husband ??? BOBB used to travel between the UK and India. I believe they could not take their money out of India so they went there to spend it. On one of their trips, she died and they had to bury her in India. Such sad stories in ones lives - Thanks Glynis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Rozario" <rozario1@rogers.com> To: <india-british-raj@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] William James MILLETT : Hi Glynis : : You mention: : : "Peg says that there was a lot of looting and her moms grave may not have the : white marble on her grave anymore, however she would love to know what the : grave number is". : : York cemetery is extremely looked after compared to other cemeteries in Delhi. I do not recollect any looting at this particular location. : : To find her Mum's grave the attendant at the gate will be able to help if indeed she is buried there. They do mantain a detailed record. If you are not sure of the cemetery then the church that conducted the burial service will surely know the cemetery that her Mum was buried at. : : Hope this helps : : Richard Rozario ( a lovely day in toronto - ahem! after all that snow....) : : : : Glynis <glynis@kwikmark.co.za> wrote: : Dear All, : : Sorry to be such a nuisance, but I have just spoken to Peg Fargher who is : coming over to India with her family next month and has just given me this : information. : : Her mother - Mrs. Mary Elizabeth BOBB, died 17 October 1982 could be buried : in the York Cemetery, Prithviraj Road, New Deli. Could this be correct??? : : Peg says that there was a lot of looting and her moms grave may not have the : white marble on her grave anymore, however she would love to know what the : grave number is. : : William James MILLETT died 16 march 1921 in Samaranpur? Hope I spelt that : correctly. : : Gee - thanks so much for any information that you kind folk send me. : : Peg is going to see the old house she used to stay in as a child, the : school, in Shimla, called Auckland House so I cannot wait for her to come : back home for me to see all the pictures. : : Regards, : Glynis MILLETT-CLAY : South Africa. : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Michael Richards" : To: : Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:26 PM : Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] William James MILLETT : : : : Glynis asks about where William James Millet is buried. Since she mentions : that he worked in the Rawalpindi area, I checked for an entry in Susan : Farrington's 'Rawalpindi Cemeteries & Churches'. There is no entry, : unfortunately. However, he could have been buried in one of the cemeteries : of the nearby Murree hill station. : I have also checked the website www.indian-cemeteries.org without success. : It is possible that BACSA (British Association for cemeteries in South Asia) : may be able to help - their webpage is www.bacsa.org.uk. : I can find no record of his death on the British Library site. : : Good luck in your quest, Glynis! : : Regards, : : Michael : _________________________________________________________________ : Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? : http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml : : : ------------------------------- : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message : : :

Snipped from http://lahorenama.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/lahore-lahore-aye-maaut-maaut-aye/ March 10, 2008 'Lahore Lahore Aye, Maaut Maaut Aye' Quote *** They belonged to different mohallahs of the old walled city of Lahore. In one fateful day, on the Third of September, 1879, the city lost 41 sons out of 69 killed. Their great grand children, now old men in their eighties, remember the respect they once commanded. They had a nameplate outside Mohallah Qassaban, inside Delhi Gate, that was removed in the 1920s after Jallianwala. They were the cannon fodder of the British Empire, unsung, forgotten, the ones who never came back. The story of the 41 soldiers belonging to the old walled city out of the 69 Indians who never returned from Kabul in 1879 was told for years. The (Kabul) Residency was set up in July 1879, and a small detachment of cavalry and infantry belonging to the 21 Guides Cavalry and 48 Guides Infantry, elite regiments belonging to Lahore, were sent as a security measure. On the 3rd September 1879, without warning, Afghan soldiers attacked the Residency and were joined by almost the entire civilian population of Kabul. *** Unquote ----- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar Nagpur, India

>From http://www.thelongridersguild.com/new-historical.htm ----- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar Nagpur, India Eleanor Hopkinson was one of the very few Western women to have travelled extensively in the old Tibet. Her husband, A. J. Hopkinson of the Indian Civil Service, was the last British Political Officer and Resident in Sikkim in the Himalayas. In 1947, her 20th year in India, the Hopkinsons made a month's tour of the Tibetan administrative centres of Shi-gatse, Gyantse and Sakya to tell them - at the behest of Whitehall - that the British were gone and thenceforth they would be dealing with an independent India. Eleanor Hopkinson was born in 1905 into a large Quaker family in Newcastle upon Tyne. She recalled that, one day in 1926, her future father-in-law sent his son, Arthur, on leave from India, to call on her parents who were known to have two eligible daughters. On Arthur's next leave two years later they were married. In 1928, aged 22, she joined her husband in India, first in Kathiawar and later in the North West Frontier Province. She found herself in "part of Kipling's India". She recalled: "In winter tribesmen came down from Afghanistan with their womenfolk and camels, going as far as Bengal. They were moneylenders who extracted their interest with 'the big stick' - literally. The men were tall, burly and much bigger than the small farmers; if they couldn't pay, they beat them with a pole 8ft long as thick as my arm, bound with four brass rings." With war looming Hopkinson returned to England, living with her parents in the Lake District and (apart from two short spells of leave) separated from her husband. At the war's end (a fourth child was born on VE day) she rejoined him, by then in Sikkim, leaving her sister to take charge of her four children. India had been badly disrupted by the war, but the journey from the railhead at Siliguri up the Teesta Valley to Gangtok, surrounded by the Himalayan giants, impressed her. Her husband was supposed to be in charge of the trade route to Tibet "but that was a bit of a pretence because really it was to controlthe high border passes and to check that law and order was kept. The British Indian Government regarded Tibet as an autonomous buffer between the great powers of Russia, China and India." In Gangtok she found that the residency, supposedly a private house, was always full of visitors; her husband and his predecessor had been posted there alone, so they liked plenty of people around. Guidebooks recommended that Europeans should travel with dinner jackets. The Hopkinsons' daily transport was ponies, though Eleanor always feared that she would fall off. The daily trek on tours of duty was 12 to 14 miles at a steady pace. When breaking the news about independence the Hopkinsons went via north Sikkim - where very few Europeans, and no British woman, had ever travelled - rather than on the regular route over the Natu La pass. In Tibet they reached Khampha Dzong, a magnificent and still intact inhabited medieval castle. The Tibetans reacted to the Hopkinsons' news with dismay as they were the only outside people they had known. But in some places there were big parties: "Their barley beer was awfully good," she recorded. "One good drink did you no harm, but you hadn't to indulge." On earlier journeys she had had what was then the rare privilege of travelling to the Kingdom of Bhutan, east of Sikkim, as well as to Gyantse in Tibet. She recalled that en route to Yatung "there was a wonderful little temple with some quite exceptionally beautiful images - the first bit of Buddhism you came to when dropping off the high passes". Years later, after the Chinese had annexed the country, she saw a photograph of it: "The whole place was a ruin. The Tibetans never thought the Chinese would come - who still insist they delivered Tibet from the darkness of medievalism. Up to a point they did, but they destroyed so much. It was brutal. They wiped it flat." By the end of their posting, Sikkim was regarded as an outpost on the fringe of Empire and received no recognition. Hopkinson recalled that friends in England thought they had been making a fortune and living very well, "which was far from the case. We were simply doing our duty." On September 1, 1948, Arthur Hopkinson handed over his post to his Indian successor. Hopkinson's entry in her diary for that day reads like an epitaph for the British Raj: "Today we are no longer masters of the residency." ==============

Thanks so much for this! I saved it to send to a couple of ex-IAF brothers-in-law, but found myself reading the whole article! Good one! An aside: when I was 15 I often accompanied my cousin to the only Glider field and training school in Poona, where a jeep was used to aid in the glider take-off by cable attachment. I will never forget the rush of being airborne and becoming part of the earth and sky. Later trips in noisy 2-seater planes were no comparison! Claire B.

G'day Esther, If you place this into Google you will find a few mention of St Mary's Orphanage. orphanage +"dum dum" +india I went there in 2001. ooroo If you don't hear the knock of opportunity - build a door. Anon.

If I can remember correctly, the Catholic Male Orphanage Calcutta (also known CMO) had links with the Orphan Press. Before WWII they were situated near the Catholic Cathedral Calcutta. During the WWII the American soldiers were staying in the Orphanage school. The CMO has now moved to Dum Dum near Calcutta and is now known as (SMO) St.Mary's School Dum Dum The following link could give you the history of the Dum Dum Orphanage http://members.tripod.com/~smocal/smohist.txt Joyce Munro -----Original Message----- From: india-british-raj-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of John Feltham Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:42 AM Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Orphanages at Dum Dum G'day Esther, If you place this into Google you will find a few mention of St Mary's Orphanage. orphanage +"dum dum" +india I went there in 2001. ooroo If you don't hear the knock of opportunity - build a door. Anon. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 2936 (20080311) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Could someone kindly tell me what English language newspapers were in circulation in Cochin/Malabar in the 19th & early 20th centuries and whether any are available for research in situ or on line. Thanks Sy

Dear Harshwardhan was there any orphanage in dum dum Calcutta during the British Raj? were there any American Army regiment based in Du Dum? Dum Dum had the airport at the time, do you know abot Dum Dum at the time of the British raj? Can any one give me any information on the orphanage in dum dum and the regiments in dum dum, Calcutta or any thing about the place Dum dum. Thankyou so much Esther

Hi Glynis You mention: "Peg says that there was a lot of looting and her moms grave may not have the white marble on her grave anymore, however she would love to know what the grave number is". York cemetery is extremely looked after compared to other cemeteries in Delhi. I do not recollect any looting at this particular location. To find her Mum's grave the attendant at the gate will be able to help if indeed she is buried there. They do mantain a detailed record. If you are not sure of the cemetery then the church that conducted the burial service will surely know the cemetery that her Mum was buried at. Hope this helps Richard Rozario ( a lovely day in toronto - ahem! after all that snow....) Glynis <glynis@kwikmark.co.za> wrote: Dear All, Sorry to be such a nuisance, but I have just spoken to Peg Fargher who is coming over to India with her family next month and has just given me this information. Her mother - Mrs. Mary Elizabeth BOBB, died 17 October 1982 could be buried in the York Cemetery, Prithviraj Road, New Deli. Could this be correct??? Peg says that there was a lot of looting and her moms grave may not have the white marble on her grave anymore, however she would love to know what the grave number is. William James MILLETT died 16 march 1921 in Samaranpur? Hope I spelt that correctly. Gee - thanks so much for any information that you kind folk send me. Peg is going to see the old house she used to stay in as a child, the school, in Shimla, called Auckland House so I cannot wait for her to come back home for me to see all the pictures. Regards, Glynis MILLETT-CLAY South Africa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Richards" To: Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:26 PM Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] William James MILLETT Glynis asks about where William James Millet is buried. Since she mentions that he worked in the Rawalpindi area, I checked for an entry in Susan Farrington's 'Rawalpindi Cemeteries & Churches'. There is no entry, unfortunately. However, he could have been buried in one of the cemeteries of the nearby Murree hill station. I have also checked the website www.indian-cemeteries.org without success. It is possible that BACSA (British Association for cemeteries in South Asia) may be able to help - their webpage is www.bacsa.org.uk. I can find no record of his death on the British Library site. Good luck in your quest, Glynis! Regards, Michael _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message