Sue, Please visit http://www.royalark.net/India/baroda6.htm You will find there that Sayajirao III had two wives: Chimnabai, b. 1861, m. 1880, d. 1884 and Chimnabai II, b. 1872, m. 1885, d. 1958. Chimnabai II would be the Maharani you are looking for. Arvind Kolhatkar, Toronto. April 04, 2010.

Did the greatest Maratha King - Chatrapati Shivaji slip into Madras incognito to offer prayers at a local temple in 1677? Historical records and local legend have different tales to tell. The city of Madras was just 38 years old in 1677 when it faced one of the greatest challenges to its survival - an invasion by Chatrapati Shivaji, no less. Details of the danger that loomed over the city are given in J. Talboys Wheeler's book, Madras in the Olden Time, published by Higginbothams in 1882 and it makes for an interesting tale. Full story, dated 04/04/2010, at: http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/mag/2010/04/04/stories/2010040450160500.htm --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

Dear Ramanathan, thank you for your email and links....I wonder if the Tamil Nadu Archives would have any further details about the Asylum and its inhabitants? Perhaps I should write to them and ask. Kind Regards Kerry IF FORWARDING MY EMAILS PLEASE REMOVE ALL ATTACHED EMAIL ADDRESSES On 2 April 2010 18:11, Ramanathan Muthaiah <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Mr.Kerry, > > Yes, a Lunatic Asylum was started in Kilpauk (a locality in Chennai) in the > nineteenth century. This Lunatic Asylum was re-named as Mental Hospital by > 1925. This URL maybe of some help to you, there are few references to > Lunatic Asylum, > > > http://madrasmusings.com/Vol%2018%20No%2011/of_armenians_coffee_and_hospitals.html > > Apart from the Lunatic Asylum, there were separate asylums for males and > females, you must also have heard about Lawrence Asylum Press [LAP]. Am not > sure if this would help in your search but this URL has details about such > asylums and the support they received from the then rulers and native > public. > > http://spuddybike.org.uk/familyhistory/madras/MadrasLotteries.html > > -- > regards > Ramanathan > > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Kerry Edwards <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Folk, > > > > I am trying to work out where my grand-aunt Gertrude Millicent Edwards B > 8 > > October 1875 Hyderabad, was sent to (somewhere in Madras?) to what the > > family called a 'Lunatic Asylum'. Family tales say she sadly lost her > > marbles at the death of her brother. She obviously died there but I do > not > > have any dates or any clues as to her death. > > > > Was there such a place in Madras or Vellore or somewhere near there? Any > > ideas where I can get this information? > > > > Kind Regards > > > > Kerry > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

G'day John, On 02/04/2010, at 11:45 PM, John E.C. Roberts wrote: > Have a look at [email protected] - GIs etc. A collection of photographs > taken by the GIs who were billeted at the Grand in the final days of the war. That is an email address - I did try http://www.library.upenn.edu and searched for "Grand Hotel Calcutta" without success. More info please... ooroo

Folk, I am trying to work out where my grand-aunt Gertrude Millicent Edwards B 8 October 1875 Hyderabad, was sent to (somewhere in Madras?) to what the family called a 'Lunatic Asylum'. Family tales say she sadly lost her marbles at the death of her brother. She obviously died there but I do not have any dates or any clues as to her death. Was there such a place in Madras or Vellore or somewhere near there? Any ideas where I can get this information? Kind Regards Kerry

See also.. "grand hotel" +calcutta for more information. ooroo

The Church in Agra follows a unique ritual to mark Good Friday, which Delhi doesn't follow, laments R.V. Smith 29/03/2010 http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/mp/2010/03/29/stories/2010032950280200.htm It was the Armenians who started the ritual in the late 16th Century when they came in Delhi and built three churches during the reigns of Jahangir and Shah Jahan, which were demolished by Nadir Shah in 1739. Some say that at least one of them was destroyed at the time of the orthodox Aurangzeb. The most prominent church was near the Barafkhana. But it was actually in Agra that Armenians held sway at Akbar's court, with Abdul Hayee, the most famous of them, being Minister of Justice and Mirza Zulqarnain (adopted as a son by the Emperor) heading the Saltworks in Sambhal, Rajputana, well known for its sambari namak. The practice of burning effigies of Judas Iscariot on Good Friday evening was introduced by the Armenians in both Delhi and Agra but it did not survive beyond the early years of Shah Jahan's reign. Isn't it surprising that the burning of Judas's effigies for betraying Christ to the Jewish priests pre-dated the practice of burning Ravan and his kinsmen's effigies in Delhi? It was only during Bahadur Shah Zafar's reign (1837-1858) that Ravan began to meet his fiery doom on the banks of the Yamuna in the Capital on Dussehra . Now nobody remembers the ritual that actually gave birth to it. [snip] --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

30/03/2010 http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/mp/2010/03/30/stories/2010033050430100.htm Listening to dead men's tales Heritage They came from Old Blighty to India to find wealth and glory. What they have left behind is a treasure trove of history. --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

Dear Mr.Kerry, Yes, a Lunatic Asylum was started in Kilpauk (a locality in Chennai) in the nineteenth century. This Lunatic Asylum was re-named as Mental Hospital by 1925. This URL maybe of some help to you, there are few references to Lunatic Asylum, http://madrasmusings.com/Vol%2018%20No%2011/of_armenians_coffee_and_hospitals.html Apart from the Lunatic Asylum, there were separate asylums for males and females, you must also have heard about Lawrence Asylum Press [LAP]. Am not sure if this would help in your search but this URL has details about such asylums and the support they received from the then rulers and native public. http://spuddybike.org.uk/familyhistory/madras/MadrasLotteries.html -- regards Ramanathan On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Kerry Edwards <[email protected]> wrote: > Folk, > > I am trying to work out where my grand-aunt Gertrude Millicent Edwards B 8 > October 1875 Hyderabad, was sent to (somewhere in Madras?) to what the > family called a 'Lunatic Asylum'. Family tales say she sadly lost her > marbles at the death of her brother. She obviously died there but I do not > have any dates or any clues as to her death. > > Was there such a place in Madras or Vellore or somewhere near there? Any > ideas where I can get this information? > > Kind Regards > > Kerry > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John, Sorry - not awake yet. They come-up on google - 'GIs Calcutta 1947'. The first hit - upenn.edu/collections has the full gallery on several pages. Some of these are very interesting - having been taken-up by car collectors etc. Soumitra Das used some in his 'Jaywalker's Guide to Calcutta'. The new Das book - 'White & Black' - is mesmerizing. JCR

John, Have a look at [email protected] - GIs etc. A collection of photographs taken by the GIs who were billeted at the Grand in the final days of the war. JCR

Hello all, Could anybody please help me with information re St Georges Church Cemetery in Bhusaval. I was hoping to be able to find records of my husbands grandmother who was buried there c1929. Thank you, Loretta

BATTLING TO KEEP THE HISTORY ALIVE Elegy written in a Stephen Court-yard Bachi Karkaria | TNN Every heart with ‘Calcutta’ engraved on it felt the clammy hand of fear as the flames engulfed Kolkata’s Stephen Court and flung wide open the shuttered memories. The fire’s awesome tandava [dance] destroyed more than life and property.A rush of yesterdays as tangible as today. For, Stephen Court, like a languid courtesan, lay with one leg on iconic Park Street, the other on Middleton Row, an offshoot lesser known, but none the less precious. It was the haunt of the generations of young girls and women who passed through Loreto House and College there, and the young men from the adjacent Birkmeyer Hostel who ogled at the passing show regardless of the scowling nuns. Stephen Court was the gateway to all this, to all of them — and to every babalog with a birthday to celebrate. For, on its ground floor stood Calcutta’s ultimate cake shop, Flury’s. It escaped virtually unscathed on Tuesday. For small mercies, immense gratitude. Stephen Court had two approaches, but flaunted only one address: 18, Park Street. It was the road that defined Calcutta’s belle epoch, and one which now presides over a hesitantly resurgent Kolkata. It’s a street clung on to alike by exiles and inhabitants, young and old bonded in the seamless lure of entertainment. In the past decade, geriatric Stephen Court had perked up because its equally jaded neighbours had been Botox-ed. Take Mag’s next door, confluence of the acne and the ecstacy of youth. Entire romances once came to fruition here over a single plate of potato chips; today’s richer teenagers do much the same at 10 times the cost and one-tenth the duration of relationships. Across the road is Bar-B-Q. We always had to book a table because that was part of the gracious minuet of dining out. Today, it’s a necessity, because the weekend waiting crowd on any restaurant in Park Street is now at least three groups deep. The Marwaris started this boom. The Bengalis have finally accepted that they can’t fight them, so they’ve joined them. And now match them, from halter top to cut-off bottoms. Unbelievable, Ki Aashchorjjo! Yes, Stephen Court was blessed by association. Across the road, Blue Fox, the other smoky whisper from our youth, has turned into a noisy McDonald’s. But romancing couples as a genre are known to seize their chances where they find them. They are happy sitting knee-to-knee, never having known dancing cheekto-cheek while Pam Crain crooned seduction.. But time is a long-distance jumper. Did we, who had come of age on Park Street in the late 1960s, spare a passing thought for the even more hedonistic generations past who had contributed to ‘Cal’s’ reputation as the most glittering night-spot of the East? The wolves in sharkskin suits and the belles tolling in taffeta who danced till dawn at Prince’s at the Grand Hotel? Had even we heard of the Armenian Stephen Arathoon, who had built this hotel in 1911, as well as the Park Street mansion named after him. Like many Armenians, he had come as a penniless refugee to Calcutta and turned tycoon. His Grand Hotel became a legendary caravanserai till a cholera outbreak forced it shut in 1937. And subsequently allowed a young Mohan Singh Oberoi to make his first fortune Permit me to end with a personal elegy for tragic Tuesday. In the 1980s, while researching a book on the Grand Hotel, I had interviewed Stephen Arathoon’s octogenarian daughter in her flat in Stephen Court. Fifteen years later, and two floors down, I met Arathoon’s grand-daughter, while writing a book on Stephen Court’s best known tenant, Flury’s. Memories, RIP.

Dear Listers, Carry out any Google search on the April Fools' Day and observe the manner in which the Search time is recorded. Arvind Kolhatkar, Toronto, April 01, 2010

I wish!! :))) My copy came to me gratis....courtesy of www.archive.org :)) Cheers, Lynne. :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:57 PM Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Coryat's Crudities 1776-edition for GBP £1,850 For the plutocrats amongst us - no, no, this isn't a touch; I just wish to bring to your notice the following - The book ''Coryat's Crudities'': Reprinted from the Edition of 1611, can be yours for just GBP £1,850. To which are now added, His Letters from India, &c. and extracts relating to him, From Various Authors: being A more particular Account of his Travels (mostly on Foot) in different Parts of the Globe, than any hitherto published. Together with his Orations, Character, Death, &c. With Copper-Plates. Publisher: London: for W. Cater; Samuel Hayes; J. Wilkie; and E. Easton at Salisbury, 1776. Further details at - http://www.peterharringtonbooks.com/store/literature-history/product/coryats-crudities/ --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In message <[email protected]> [email protected] wrote: > In message <[email protected]> > "Lynne Hadley" <[email protected]> wrote: >> I wish!! :))) My copy came to me gratis....courtesy of www.archive.org :)) >> Cheers, Lynne. :)) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:57 PM >> Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Coryat's Crudities 1776-edition for GBP £1,850 >> For the plutocrats amongst us - no, no, this isn't a touch; >> I just wish to bring to your notice the following - >> The book ''Coryat's Crudities'': Reprinted from the Edition >> of 1611, can be yours for just GBP £1,850. > [snip] > Amazon.co.uk seem to have modern reprints for about one tenth of that > price. That is, of course, a lot more than Archive.com or Google ;-) Sorry, that should be one hundredth, an even better bargain ;-) -- Dave Barnett

For the plutocrats amongst us - no, no, this isn't a touch; I just wish to bring to your notice the following - The book ''Coryat's Crudities'': Reprinted from the Edition of 1611, can be yours for just GBP £1,850. To which are now added, His Letters from India, &c. and extracts relating to him, From Various Authors: being A more particular Account of his Travels (mostly on Foot) in different Parts of the Globe, than any hitherto published. Together with his Orations, Character, Death, &c. With Copper-Plates. Publisher: London: for W. Cater; Samuel Hayes; J. Wilkie; and E. Easton at Salisbury, 1776. Further details at - http://www.peterharringtonbooks.com/store/literature-history/product/coryats-crudities/ --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

In message <[email protected]> "Lynne Hadley" <[email protected]> wrote: > I wish!! :))) My copy came to me gratis....courtesy of www.archive.org :)) > Cheers, Lynne. :)) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:57 PM > Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Coryat's Crudities 1776-edition for GBP £1,850 > For the plutocrats amongst us - no, no, this isn't a touch; > I just wish to bring to your notice the following - > The book ''Coryat's Crudities'': Reprinted from the Edition > of 1611, can be yours for just GBP £1,850. [snip] Amazon.co.uk seem to have modern reprints for about one tenth of that price. That is, of course, a lot more than Archive.com or Google ;-) -- Dave Barnett

In message <[email protected]> "Lynne Hadley" <[email protected]> wrote: > I wish!! :))) My copy came to me gratis....courtesy of www.archive.org :)) > Cheers, Lynne. :)) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:57 PM > Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Coryat's Crudities 1776-edition for GBP £1,850 > For the plutocrats amongst us - no, no, this isn't a touch; > I just wish to bring to your notice the following - > The book ''Coryat's Crudities'': Reprinted from the Edition > of 1611, can be yours for just GBP £1,850. [snip] The John Rylands Library of Manchester University has 2 copies of the 1905 reprint of the 1611 edition for loan to those of us who are readers. Also for reference is a copy of the 1776 edition described above. This edition has his letters from India. Archive.org seem to be distributing the Google book searches scanned from Harvard and New York. -- Dave Barnett

Sunday, March 28, 2010 He deciphered India's past Besides unlocking the mystery of the Brahmi and Kharoshti scripts, James Prinsep deciphered numerous inscriptions, including those used during Emperor Ashoka's reign. http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20100328/spectrum/main2.htm --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar